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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by Bob Patterson
Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit -
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our airfield ....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very lumpy - (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet short - so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" - she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had anticipated :o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( - LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the least :o(

Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get to do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by wrightdg
Sorry to hear about that Rick but like me with FOKM you got lucky enough
to walk away unscathed. All part of the adventure I guess but a part we
could all happily do without. : ) Still having fun here trying to
organize repairs.

Garry

On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 11:10 -0400, Bob Patterson wrote:
Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit -
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our airfield ....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very lumpy - (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet short - so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" - she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had anticipated :o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( - LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the least :o(

Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get to do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by Rick Harper
Thanks Bob .....

Like I said - I'm really pissed off with myself - One - for putting
more importance on "the spot" than the plane ... and Two - for creating
6 to 12 months work for myself - in my "spare, spare, spare time" (which
I haven't really GOT :o(

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing



Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit -
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our airfield
....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very lumpy
- (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall
trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet
short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet short
- so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP
the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very
effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" - she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had anticipated
:o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right
gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( -
LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the least
:o(
Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get to
do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by Rick Harper
Thanks Garry ...

Like Bob says - the Rebel IS a great plane - I didn't get a scratch,
which is a pretty good thing too ....

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: wrightdg
To: rebel builders
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing


Sorry to hear about that Rick but like me with FOKM you got lucky
enough
to walk away unscathed. All part of the adventure I guess but a part
we
could all happily do without. : ) Still having fun here trying to
organize repairs.

Garry

On Sun, 2005-07-08 at 11:10 -0400, Bob Patterson wrote:
Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there
were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit -
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our
airfield ....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very
lumpy - (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall
trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet
short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet
short - so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP
the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very
effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" -
she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had
anticipated :o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right
gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( -
LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the
least :o(
Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get
to do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by N.Smith
Hi Rick

Sorry to hear your news. Hopefully not that long to get it sorted once you
start.

At least no one was hurt so.......

Always look on the bright side of life (can't do whistling in ascii :-)

Nigel
745E


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Rick Harper
Sent: 07 August 2005 22:03
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing


Thanks Bob .....

Like I said - I'm really pissed off with myself - One - for putting
more importance on "the spot" than the plane ... and Two - for creating
6 to 12 months work for myself - in my "spare, spare, spare time" (which
I haven't really GOT :o(

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing



Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit -
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our airfield
....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very lumpy
- (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall
trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet
short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet short
- so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP
the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very
effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" - she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had anticipated
:o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right
gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( -
LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the least
:o(
Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get to
do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by Rick Harper
Thanks Nigel ...

If you convert the notes you whistle to "Do Ra La" etc, etc - you
could do an ascii conversion then ! :o)

I'm too busy to sit down & write it out - for now

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: N.Smith
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:12 AM
Subject: RE: Rebel - hard landing


Hi Rick

Sorry to hear your news. Hopefully not that long to get it sorted once
you
start.

At least no one was hurt so.......

Always look on the bright side of life (can't do whistling in ascii
:-)

Nigel
745E


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Rick Harper
Sent: 07 August 2005 22:03
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing


Thanks Bob .....

Like I said - I'm really pissed off with myself - One - for
putting
more importance on "the spot" than the plane ... and Two - for
creating
6 to 12 months work for myself - in my "spare, spare, spare time"
(which
I haven't really GOT :o(

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing



Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there
were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit -
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our
airfield
....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very
lumpy
- (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall
trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet
short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet
short
- so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP
the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very
effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" -
she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had
anticipated
:o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right
gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( -
LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the
least
:o(
Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get
to
do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by Phil Stubley
Rick, Sorry to hear. I was lucky, I only bent one leg slightly, after
doing a slight power on to overshoot a deer. Then I dropped it from 'a
great height'

Like Bob says, 'fly the airplane' don't be distracted.


Phil.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harper" <rjwh@optusnet.com.au>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing

Thanks Bob .....

Like I said - I'm really pissed off with myself - One - for putting
more importance on "the spot" than the plane ... and Two - for creating
6 to 12 months work for myself - in my "spare, spare, spare time" (which
I haven't really GOT :o(

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing



Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit -
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our airfield
....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very lumpy
- (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall
trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet
short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet short
- so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach & DUMP
the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very
effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" - she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had anticipated
:o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the right
gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o( -
LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the least
:o(
Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get to
do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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Rebel - hard landing

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:48 am
by Rick Harper
Yep .... well I did it to myself - so I've got no one else to blame !
:o(

Rick
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Stubley
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing


Rick, Sorry to hear. I was lucky, I only bent one leg slightly,
after
doing a slight power on to overshoot a deer. Then I dropped it from
'a
great height'

Like Bob says, 'fly the airplane' don't be distracted.


Phil.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harper" <rjwh@optusnet.com.au>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing

Thanks Bob .....

Like I said - I'm really pissed off with myself - One - for
putting
more importance on "the spot" than the plane ... and Two - for
creating
6 to 12 months work for myself - in my "spare, spare, spare time"
(which
I haven't really GOT :o(

Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel - hard landing



Hi Rick !

Sorry to hear you've bent your bird ! Very glad that there
were
no personal injuries !!! The Rebel is a strong, well designed kit
-
it WILL fold up if hit hard enough, as it's designed to soak up
the energy and protect the pilot. Glad it did its job !

You are not the first to land 50 feet up - the previous owner
of
one of my Rebels did almost the same trick, with full fuel, and
a passenger - and walked away unscratched.... Sometimes, excess
concentration on 'the spot', or some outside distraction, can
cause
us to forget that "Fly The Airplane" is the first priority !

Glad you're OK, and you will now get to make those mods you
planned. I know your Rebel will soon be an award-winner again !

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Sunday 07 August 2005 07:51 am, Rick Harper wrote:
G'day Guys ('n' gals)

What a difference a day makes ...

I was partaking in a spot landing competition today at our
airfield
....
and it was a pretty bumpy day - so the final approach was very
lumpy
- (
the strip is cut out of a side of a hill & lined nearby by tall
trees -
GREAT for adverse landing practise !)

First landing was within 3 feet of the line, second was 60 feet
short !
(looked ok from where I was sitting), third was about 10 feet
short
- so
a BIG effort on the last landing was called for !!!

I was doing my "Rebel special" landing - full flap approach &
DUMP
the
LOT - to full 12 degree negative a soon as she touches - very
effective
- u...s....u...a....l....l....y......

Trouble is, I got hit with a rotor - and she ballooned - just as
I
dumped the flap :o( - so instead of falling from "nil height" -
she
dropped like a ROCK from a height much bigger than I had
anticipated
:o(
:o( :o(

Left drag link sheared & leg collapsed, skidded right & the
right
gear
dug in - shoving the triangulated gear up through the floor :o(
-
LOTS
of lower fuse' damage, prop shortened (wood thankfully), screen
shattered and more :o( :o( :o(

No personal damage - but VERY pissed with myself - to say the
least
:o(
Oh well .... back to the old drawing board - ( at least I'll get
to
do
all the fuse upgrades I wanted to do now )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R .... NOT flying now :o(

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