Hi Mark,
We seem to be in the same boat as future/anxious Moosers. Just to add
more info, I called MAC last week or so inquiring about quick-build
kits. The gentleman (can't remember his name) said that they were (at
least?) 14 months away from having any quick-kits.
Decisions decisions!!
Fred
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From:
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mark_kellgren@dcsol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:23 AM
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Subject: RE: Moose and M14P
I have a separate question on the M14P for everyone.
I am very interested in obtaining a Moose kit in a few years, and with
an M14 to go with it. I know in many emails, there are recommendations
to wait until the fuselage is complete and the engine is ready to mount,
before purchasing the engine, as aircraft engines don't sit well for
long term. Thinking of this, the other side of the coin is that M14
engines seem to continue to rise, possibly faster than the fuselage
prices. If it takes 3-5 years to build the fuselage, that could mean a
huge price increase, and therefor opportunity cost, to wait on that
purchase for that long.
So, the question is, how long can the M14P engine really sit in a shop
without detremental effect? What can be done to maximize it's storage
life prior to mounting? Any idea (gut feeling) of how much more the
engines will increase in price in the next 5 years?
Separate issue: Montana float states that they will have their 3500
amphib float KIT!! Available in 2005. Anyone have details? I also got
word late last year from MAC that they are developing a amphib version
of their 3500 floats, but no published word yet on that? Anybody know
how long it would take to build those kits (ballpark) and/or what the
pricing would probably be?
Mark Kellgren
Impatient future moose builder
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-> It helps very much...Thanks for the info Scott and GeorgeC!
->
-> Fred
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
-> Scott Aldrich
-> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:31 PM
-> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Subject: RE: Moose and M14P
->
-> Fred,
->
-> You only need the inverted oil system if you plan on flying upside
-> down for extended periods of time :)
->
-> The engine "mount ring" comes with the engine but that is only half
-> of the engine mount as we know it. Murphy welds legs to the engine
-> mount ring to make the complete mount. You can buy a completed mount
-> from Murphy and get a price break if you send them your "ring" that
-> came with your engine. The Eastern aircraft all bolt right to the
-> ring not welded.
-> Here is example of a Moose M14 mount, although it is not Murphy but
-> similar
http://www.goflyamoose.com/engine_mount.htm
->
->
-> You could contact the three main suppliers direct and ask them about
-> the parts availability issue. So far it doesn't seem to be a
problem.
->
-> You've already been to George's site,
www.gesoco.com and he watches
-> the list so may add some info here.
->
->
-> Go here
http://www.m-14p.com/pages/3/index.htm to contact Carl or
-> Jill about Russian manufacture engines and parts. (Their website is
-> crap but you can get their contact information)
->
-> Shadetree still has some NOS M14Ps which are in perfect condition
-> (all the dehydration plugs are still blue) but he has nearly doubled
-> his price for the remaining stock in the past two years.
->
http://www.shadetreeusa.com/
->
-> Here is an article on the availability of Russian manufacturer
-> engines and pasrts from England.
->
http://www.russianaeros.com/vedenyevproduct.htm
->
-> The above (Richard Goode) has transferred their parts department to
->
http://www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk/main.asp You see they still have
-> complete new carburetors for sale
->
-> This is a link page from the YAK guys that has a bunch of M14 related
-> stuff including all the links above but spread throughout.
->
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/
->
-> Hope that helps,
-> Scott
-> Moose 174
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
-> Fred Messinger (fredm)
-> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:36 PM
-> To:
rebel-builders@dcsol.com
-> Cc: Fred Messinger (fredm)
-> Subject: Moose and M14P
->
->
-> Hi Everybody,
->
-> I don't have a project going on just yet, but I'm fairly close to
-> settling on the Moose with the M14P.
->
-> However, I have a couple deal-killer questions....
->
-> How available is the M14P? I've been to
www.gesoco.com and read
thru
-> everything, and some things concern me - like the company that used
-> to make the carburators now makes furniture or something.
->
-> Also, in reference to the M14Ps, the M14P-V26 apparently does not
have
-> the inverted oil system of the M14P? How is that? What do they
mean
-> by "inverted" oil system?
->
-> Who makes the M14P engine mounts? Do they come from MAC?
->
-> Thanks for your help and keep up the good work with all the
-> pictures!,
->
-> Fred
->
->
->
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