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Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to busy
trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh how I
miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having it? -

where along the line I missed why it was there.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Thanks Jim! Nobody else seemed to care,

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Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and the
only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are doing
as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should I
say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his Elite
was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of the
hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses from
the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're already
back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL


Wayne

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From: "Robert and Olga Johnson" <rjohnson18@cogeco.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to
busy
trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh how I
miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having it? -

some

where along the line I missed why it was there.
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Thanks Jim! Nobody else seemed to care,

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and the
only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are doing
as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should I
say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his Elite
was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of the
hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses from
the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're already
back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL


Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert and Olga Johnson" <rjohnson18@cogeco.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to

busy

trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh how

I

miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having it? -

some

where along the line I missed why it was there.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

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Sounds like you do need to go north <grin>.

I don't think it has anything to with "not giving a rat's ass" or a lack

enthusiasm about someone's completion. All of us still working know it

a lot of his, and his families, time and dedication to see this through

are in awe of his accomplishment (if not a little envious). <grin>

Some of it goes back to the poor subject lines; I didn't recall a first
flight or completion post. I went back and found Alan's email and sent

a note offline.

If everyone on the list said congratulation wouldn't it just become spam?
After just so many on list "congrats" a private email may be more
appropriate.

As far as yours Wayne, yes, probably a little less (but only a little)
exciting that it's not a first and that it is a for profit operation. It
almost sounds like you want to be paid for your advice?

I can't imagine anyone not saying a quick "thank you" for a response? A
good percentage of posts get no response at all.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but I
guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and

only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are

as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should I
say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his Elite
was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of

hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses

the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're

back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL


Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert and Olga Johnson" <rjohnson18@cogeco.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

Your wrong Wayne, I care and probably most other builders, but are to

busy

trying to build to reply. Jim is right, it really looks great. - Oh

I

miss my Rebel. Nice job Wayne: What was the reason for you having

some

where along the line I missed why it was there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!



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-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

North......I am on the 13th and also when the "advise" will come to an
end!

..as for being Spam if everyone said congrats to a guys/gals new
completion.....I'm sure everyone is a tad more tolerable than that. What's
a
few dozen emails a day for a few days after each completion. I get over
300
spam / day on top of all my real email. Don't see it as a big deal.

..as for a "for profit operation"..dream on..."for justification
operation"
maybe. It covers the property taxes and hydro bills around here...and
maybe
500 gallons of AV gas per year (and the odd airplane part for
maintenance).
I could get serious with a few helpers and probably do close to 7
figures/year on aircraft completions and repairs...but that's not what I'm
in this for!

..wanting to be paid for my advise....I've been giving it for free for
over
12 years.....much to the dismay of Darryl Murphy at times... and spent
countless hours on the phone almost nightly before the internet helping
builders that where unsure what to do next. We always joked about a 1-900
#
but it was only a joke..... Unlike guys like Govier that decodes Chrysler
cars. He doesn't get on the phone until his wife takes your credit card #
and then it's $100US/hour. Email replies are $50 for a couple paragraphs.
At
those rates for the words/day that I type I'd be living on Belize by now!
On
the other hand...do you not think the advise I have given so freely for
years is worth anything?

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Sounds like you do need to go north <grin>.

I don't think it has anything to with "not giving a rat's ass" or a lack

of

enthusiasm about someone's completion. All of us still working know it

took

a lot of his, and his families, time and dedication to see this through

and

are in awe of his accomplishment (if not a little envious). <grin>

Some of it goes back to the poor subject lines; I didn't recall a first
flight or completion post. I went back and found Alan's email and sent

him

a note offline.

If everyone on the list said congratulation wouldn't it just become

spam?

After just so many on list "congrats" a private email may be more
appropriate.

As far as yours Wayne, yes, probably a little less (but only a little)
exciting that it's not a first and that it is a for profit operation.

It

almost sounds like you want to be paid for your advice?

I can't imagine anyone not saying a quick "thank you" for a response? A
good percentage of posts get no response at all.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Thanks Bob! I guess I was just "digging" for a pat on the back....but

I

guess most don't really care considering I am doing this full time and

the

only one that is that offers continuous advise...(the rest that are

doing

as
a business are a lot smarter than I and stay out of sight....or should

I

say
off the site).

Guess what really erk'd me, previously, was when Alan posted his

Elite

was
done and ready to fly...and he got about half a dozen congrats out of

the

hundred(s)?? that are subscribed here and looking for building advise
daily/weekly. I guess their day will come, they'll be ready to fly and
nobody is going to give a rats ass about them either! The other thing
that
gets me is those that ask for advise.... get good, valuable responses

from

the group and can't take three seconds to say Thanks when they're

already

back on-line asking the next question!

God I need to get up North! LOL


Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert and Olga Johnson" <rjohnson18@cogeco.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CYP ready to take back the skies!

to

busy

how

I

it? -

some


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I'm just giving you flak for, as you said, "digging for a compliment" then
getting grumpy when it didn't come through.

I should have just let it slide, I apologize.

Your advice has been invaluable to many but the real value is in the warm
fuzzy it gives you knowing you have helped many, many builders over the
years.

What, no satellite connection up there?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:04 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

North......I am on the 13th and also when the "advise" will come to an
end!

..as for being Spam if everyone said congrats to a guys/gals new
completion.....I'm sure everyone is a tad more tolerable than that.

a
few dozen emails a day for a few days after each completion. I get over
300
spam / day on top of all my real email. Don't see it as a big deal.

..as for a "for profit operation"..dream on..."for justification
operation"
maybe. It covers the property taxes and hydro bills around here...and
maybe
500 gallons of AV gas per year (and the odd airplane part for
maintenance).
I could get serious with a few helpers and probably do close to 7
figures/year on aircraft completions and repairs...but that's not what

in this for!

..wanting to be paid for my advise....I've been giving it for free for
over
12 years.....much to the dismay of Darryl Murphy at times... and spent
countless hours on the phone almost nightly before the internet helping
builders that where unsure what to do next. We always joked about a

#
but it was only a joke..... Unlike guys like Govier that decodes

cars. He doesn't get on the phone until his wife takes your credit card

and then it's $100US/hour. Email replies are $50 for a couple

At
those rates for the words/day that I type I'd be living on Belize by

On
the other hand...do you not think the advise I have given so freely for
years is worth anything?

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Completions - lack of enthusiasum -sad

Sounds like you do need to go north <grin>.

I don't think it has anything to with "not giving a rat's ass" or a

of

enthusiasm about someone's completion. All of us still working know

took

a lot of his, and his families, time and dedication to see this

and

are in awe of his accomplishment (if not a little envious). <grin>

Some of it goes back to the poor subject lines; I didn't recall a

flight or completion post. I went back and found Alan's email and

him

a note offline.

If everyone on the list said congratulation wouldn't it just become

spam?

After just so many on list "congrats" a private email may be more
appropriate.

As far as yours Wayne, yes, probably a little less (but only a little)
exciting that it's not a first and that it is a for profit operation.

It

almost sounds like you want to be paid for your advice?

I can't imagine anyone not saying a quick "thank you" for a response?

good percentage of posts get no response at all.

Scott

I

the

doing

I

Elite

the

from

already

to

how

it? -

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Nothing to apologize for Scott...that's what makes the list and our
countries great...free speech! I saw the tongue and cheek in your
response,
just clarifying my position(s).

As for a satellite connection.....hell I even have a phone line....but
that's one number that's not being given out (nor would you even find the
name it's listed under )) ! )...nor do I think I'll take a computer up
for the near future at least...even though I can get better service there
than I have here at home!

Cheers,
Wayne