Turbo Moose!

[Mike Davis]

Just received the following e-mail from Vincent regarding the PT-6 powered
Moose he's working on. I uploaded pictures and documents to the archive
site also.

Mike

Hello Mike,
it has been a long time. About the V8, i'm still working on improving it
until it is to my taste...Being an airline pilot, i will never sell
something wich is not safe... Coming along... But now i have something that
will interest you and many guys for sure.. We never spoke about it because
we wanted to keep it secret until it is ready.. We are pretty much now and
we will be in Oskosh. what would you think about the first Pratt & Whitney
PT-6-20 450 SHP Murphy T-Moose!!!Best known and reliable turbine. we will
offer a firewall forward package including the cowling that fit the Moose...
Talking about 155MPH in cruise ON FLOATS!!! and above 2500fpm climb... The
engine weight only 286 pounds and has 5000 hours to go on condition. Only
for about double the price of a radial MP-14 kit! Cruising at 40 mph faster!
Watch out for an amazing performer! No more problems with vibrations(cracks)
and with the speed gain and price of fuel, the average cost per mile will be
identical! Reversing prop! Our Demo will be for sale and ready to deliver at
the end of show season (october). All of that for half the price of a Turbo
Beaver!!! and full EFIS (blue mountains 3 screens) ,auto-pilot, wipline 4000
amphibs and more!!!

Let me know what you think about that... The price of the firewall forward
package will be 98 500$ (including cowlings and everything you need to bolt
it on and run) The price of our demo will be 495 000$ US.

cheers,
Vincent




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[Scott Aldrich]

Interesting. Not sure about the engine only being "double" the cost of M14
as he is talking more money for just the turbine than my completed airplane
with engine, avionics, floats, etc. cost.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:29 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Turbo Moose!

Just received the following e-mail from Vincent regarding the PT-6 powered
Moose he's working on. I uploaded pictures and documents to the archive
site also.

Mike

Hello Mike,
it has been a long time. About the V8, i'm still working on improving it
until it is to my taste...Being an airline pilot, i will never sell
something wich is not safe... Coming along... But now i have something that
will interest you and many guys for sure.. We never spoke about it because
we wanted to keep it secret until it is ready.. We are pretty much now and
we will be in Oskosh. what would you think about the first Pratt & Whitney
PT-6-20 450 SHP Murphy T-Moose!!!Best known and reliable turbine. we will
offer a firewall forward package including the cowling that fit the Moose...
Talking about 155MPH in cruise ON FLOATS!!! and above 2500fpm climb... The
engine weight only 286 pounds and has 5000 hours to go on condition. Only
for about double the price of a radial MP-14 kit! Cruising at 40 mph faster!

Watch out for an amazing performer! No more problems with vibrations(cracks)

and with the speed gain and price of fuel, the average cost per mile will be

identical! Reversing prop! Our Demo will be for sale and ready to deliver at

the end of show season (october). All of that for half the price of a Turbo
Beaver!!! and full EFIS (blue mountains 3 screens) ,auto-pilot, wipline 4000

amphibs and more!!!

Let me know what you think about that... The price of the firewall forward
package will be 98 500$ (including cowlings and everything you need to bolt
it on and run) The price of our demo will be 495 000$ US.

cheers,
Vincent




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[Al Paxhia]

Mike,
I tried twice to open the file called specifications and it dumps me off the
site. All the other files open fine.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Turbo Moose!

Just received the following e-mail from Vincent regarding the PT-6 powered
Moose he's working on. I uploaded pictures and documents to the archive
site also.

Mike

Hello Mike,
it has been a long time. About the V8, i'm still working on improving it
until it is to my taste...Being an airline pilot, i will never sell
something wich is not safe... Coming along... But now i have something
that
will interest you and many guys for sure.. We never spoke about it because
we wanted to keep it secret until it is ready.. We are pretty much now and
we will be in Oskosh. what would you think about the first Pratt & Whitney
PT-6-20 450 SHP Murphy T-Moose!!!Best known and reliable turbine. we will
offer a firewall forward package including the cowling that fit the
Moose...
Talking about 155MPH in cruise ON FLOATS!!! and above 2500fpm climb... The
engine weight only 286 pounds and has 5000 hours to go on condition. Only
for about double the price of a radial MP-14 kit! Cruising at 40 mph
faster!
Watch out for an amazing performer! No more problems with
vibrations(cracks)
and with the speed gain and price of fuel, the average cost per mile will
be
identical! Reversing prop! Our Demo will be for sale and ready to deliver
at
the end of show season (october). All of that for half the price of a
Turbo
Beaver!!! and full EFIS (blue mountains 3 screens) ,auto-pilot, wipline
4000
amphibs and more!!!

Let me know what you think about that... The price of the firewall forward
package will be 98 500$ (including cowlings and everything you need to
bolt
it on and run) The price of our demo will be 495 000$ US.

cheers,
Vincent




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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Yah, I thought he could use some work with his math..... but then I started
looking at MAM's firewall forward kit. Engine mount, oil system, air start
system, exhaust system and cowling ...and a quick head add up is about $12K
US plus the cost of a new M14-400HP. Then add a propellor on as well...which
could be $1000 or what's that three blade composite cost. I guess if the new
prop is about $8K he's not far off in his statement.

I wish them good luck with their project.....they will sell a few to a
couple of guys with money burning a hole in their pocket looking for a
novelty to boost the small p^#*$ syndrome... and that will cover their R&D.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: Turbo Moose!

Interesting. Not sure about the engine only being "double" the cost of

M14

as he is talking more money for just the turbine than my completed

airplane

with engine, avionics, floats, etc. cost.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:29 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Turbo Moose!

Just received the following e-mail from Vincent regarding the PT-6 powered
Moose he's working on. I uploaded pictures and documents to the archive
site also.

Mike

Hello Mike,
it has been a long time. About the V8, i'm still working on improving it
until it is to my taste...Being an airline pilot, i will never sell
something wich is not safe... Coming along... But now i have something

that

will interest you and many guys for sure.. We never spoke about it because
we wanted to keep it secret until it is ready.. We are pretty much now and
we will be in Oskosh. what would you think about the first Pratt & Whitney
PT-6-20 450 SHP Murphy T-Moose!!!Best known and reliable turbine. we will
offer a firewall forward package including the cowling that fit the

Moose...

Talking about 155MPH in cruise ON FLOATS!!! and above 2500fpm climb... The
engine weight only 286 pounds and has 5000 hours to go on condition. Only
for about double the price of a radial MP-14 kit! Cruising at 40 mph

faster!

Watch out for an amazing performer! No more problems with

vibrations(cracks)

and with the speed gain and price of fuel, the average cost per mile will

be

identical! Reversing prop! Our Demo will be for sale and ready to deliver

at

the end of show season (october). All of that for half the price of a

Turbo

Beaver!!! and full EFIS (blue mountains 3 screens) ,auto-pilot, wipline

4000

amphibs and more!!!

Let me know what you think about that... The price of the firewall forward
package will be 98 500$ (including cowlings and everything you need to

bolt

it on and run) The price of our demo will be 495 000$ US.

cheers,
Vincent




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[Scott Aldrich]

Your right if you do the MAM "kits" the FWF can add up. I made all my own;
engine mounts, oil tanks, air system, etc. Also kit and engine (360hp)
purchase in 2001, prices have gone up considerably.

I think the new composite props are more in the $12,000 plus range now.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:25 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Turbo Moose!

Yah, I thought he could use some work with his math..... but then I started
looking at MAM's firewall forward kit. Engine mount, oil system, air start
system, exhaust system and cowling ...and a quick head add up is about $12K
US plus the cost of a new M14-400HP. Then add a propellor on as well...which
could be $1000 or what's that three blade composite cost. I guess if the new
prop is about $8K he's not far off in his statement.

I wish them good luck with their project.....they will sell a few to a
couple of guys with money burning a hole in their pocket looking for a
novelty to boost the small p^#*$ syndrome... and that will cover their R&D.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: Turbo Moose!

Interesting. Not sure about the engine only being "double" the cost of

M14

as he is talking more money for just the turbine than my completed

airplane

with engine, avionics, floats, etc. cost.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:29 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Turbo Moose!

Just received the following e-mail from Vincent regarding the PT-6 powered
Moose he's working on. I uploaded pictures and documents to the archive
site also.

Mike

Hello Mike,
it has been a long time. About the V8, i'm still working on improving it
until it is to my taste...Being an airline pilot, i will never sell
something wich is not safe... Coming along... But now i have something

that

will interest you and many guys for sure.. We never spoke about it because
we wanted to keep it secret until it is ready.. We are pretty much now and
we will be in Oskosh. what would you think about the first Pratt & Whitney
PT-6-20 450 SHP Murphy T-Moose!!!Best known and reliable turbine. we will
offer a firewall forward package including the cowling that fit the

Moose...

Talking about 155MPH in cruise ON FLOATS!!! and above 2500fpm climb... The
engine weight only 286 pounds and has 5000 hours to go on condition. Only
for about double the price of a radial MP-14 kit! Cruising at 40 mph

faster!

Watch out for an amazing performer! No more problems with

vibrations(cracks)

and with the speed gain and price of fuel, the average cost per mile will

be

identical! Reversing prop! Our Demo will be for sale and ready to deliver

at

the end of show season (october). All of that for half the price of a

Turbo

Beaver!!! and full EFIS (blue mountains 3 screens) ,auto-pilot, wipline

4000

amphibs and more!!!

Let me know what you think about that... The price of the firewall forward
package will be 98 500$ (including cowlings and everything you need to

bolt

it on and run) The price of our demo will be 495 000$ US.

cheers,
Vincent




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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

So he is stating fact then. He's selling a FWF kit and comparing it to what
you can buy as FWF kit from MAM. Still a wack of cash!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 8:55 PM
Subject: RE: Turbo Moose!

Your right if you do the MAM "kits" the FWF can add up. I made all my

own;

engine mounts, oil tanks, air system, etc. Also kit and engine (360hp)
purchase in 2001, prices have gone up considerably.

I think the new composite props are more in the $12,000 plus range now.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Wayne

G. O'Shea
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:25 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Turbo Moose!

Yah, I thought he could use some work with his math..... but then I

started

looking at MAM's firewall forward kit. Engine mount, oil system, air start
system, exhaust system and cowling ...and a quick head add up is about

$12K

US plus the cost of a new M14-400HP. Then add a propellor on as

well...which

could be $1000 or what's that three blade composite cost. I guess if the

new

prop is about $8K he's not far off in his statement.

I wish them good luck with their project.....they will sell a few to a
couple of guys with money burning a hole in their pocket looking for a
novelty to boost the small p^#*$ syndrome... and that will cover their

R&D.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: Turbo Moose!

Interesting. Not sure about the engine only being "double" the cost of

M14

as he is talking more money for just the turbine than my completed

airplane

with engine, avionics, floats, etc. cost.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:29 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Turbo Moose!

Just received the following e-mail from Vincent regarding the PT-6

powered

Moose he's working on. I uploaded pictures and documents to the archive
site also.

Mike

Hello Mike,
it has been a long time. About the V8, i'm still working on improving it
until it is to my taste...Being an airline pilot, i will never sell
something wich is not safe... Coming along... But now i have something

that

will interest you and many guys for sure.. We never spoke about it

because

we wanted to keep it secret until it is ready.. We are pretty much now

and

we will be in Oskosh. what would you think about the first Pratt &

Whitney

PT-6-20 450 SHP Murphy T-Moose!!!Best known and reliable turbine. we

will

offer a firewall forward package including the cowling that fit the

Moose...

Talking about 155MPH in cruise ON FLOATS!!! and above 2500fpm climb...

The

engine weight only 286 pounds and has 5000 hours to go on condition.

Only

for about double the price of a radial MP-14 kit! Cruising at 40 mph

faster!

Watch out for an amazing performer! No more problems with

vibrations(cracks)

and with the speed gain and price of fuel, the average cost per mile

will

be

identical! Reversing prop! Our Demo will be for sale and ready to

deliver

at

the end of show season (october). All of that for half the price of a

Turbo

Beaver!!! and full EFIS (blue mountains 3 screens) ,auto-pilot, wipline

4000

amphibs and more!!!

Let me know what you think about that... The price of the firewall

forward

package will be 98 500$ (including cowlings and everything you need to

bolt

it on and run) The price of our demo will be 495 000$ US.

cheers,
Vincent




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[Mike Davis]

Sorry about that Al, I uploaded the Word document Vincent sent me instead of
the .PDF file I created. I've removed the .doc file and uploaded the .pdf
file.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Turbo Moose!

Mike,
I tried twice to open the file called specifications and it dumps me off
the
site. All the other files open fine.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:28 PM
Subject: Turbo Moose!

Just received the following e-mail from Vincent regarding the PT-6
powered
Moose he's working on. I uploaded pictures and documents to the archive
site also.

Mike

Hello Mike,
it has been a long time. About the V8, i'm still working on improving it
until it is to my taste...Being an airline pilot, i will never sell
something wich is not safe... Coming along... But now i have something
that
will interest you and many guys for sure.. We never spoke about it
because
we wanted to keep it secret until it is ready.. We are pretty much now
and
we will be in Oskosh. what would you think about the first Pratt &
Whitney
PT-6-20 450 SHP Murphy T-Moose!!!Best known and reliable turbine. we will
offer a firewall forward package including the cowling that fit the
Moose...
Talking about 155MPH in cruise ON FLOATS!!! and above 2500fpm climb...
The
engine weight only 286 pounds and has 5000 hours to go on condition. Only
for about double the price of a radial MP-14 kit! Cruising at 40 mph
faster!
Watch out for an amazing performer! No more problems with
vibrations(cracks)
and with the speed gain and price of fuel, the average cost per mile will
be
identical! Reversing prop! Our Demo will be for sale and ready to deliver
at
the end of show season (october). All of that for half the price of a
Turbo
Beaver!!! and full EFIS (blue mountains 3 screens) ,auto-pilot, wipline
4000
amphibs and more!!!

Let me know what you think about that... The price of the firewall
forward
package will be 98 500$ (including cowlings and everything you need to
bolt
it on and run) The price of our demo will be 495 000$ US.

cheers,
Vincent




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