aircraft either inside or outside.If i go with the speed cowl can i
practically install a exhaust with a muffler or do i have to go with tho
nose bowl cowling.
Regards: Alvin
----- Original Message -----
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Digest of list: rebel-builders-d Total messages in digest: 21
1 Date : Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:17:54 -0700 (PDT)
From : bowmanout@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
2 Date : Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:06:55 -0400
From : rgfisher@zeuter.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
3 Date : Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:16:41 -0400
From : rebaker@sc.rr.com
Subject: Epoxy primer
4 Date : Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:30:24 -0700 (PDT)
From : bowmanout@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: nose gear back-up/foldup tubes
5 Date : Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:46:22 -0400
From : oifa@irishfield.on.ca
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
6 Date : Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:00:47 -0700
From : walter.klatt@shaw.ca
Subject: RE: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
7 Date : Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:39:33 -0400
From : drewjan@cabletv.on.ca
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
8 Date : Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:44:25 -0800
From : mike.davis@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rotax 912s exhaust system
9 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:11:03 EDT
From : legeorgen@aol.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
10 Date : Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:43:35 -0400
From : klehman@albedo.net
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
11 Date : Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:52:27 -0400
From : klehman@albedo.net
Subject: Re: Rebel tail tips
12 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:56:16 EDT
From : wudoktor@aol.com
Subject: Strontium Chromate primer - Sherwin williams
13 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:52:54 -0400
From : drewjan@cabletv.on.ca
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
14 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:19:59 EDT
From : legeorgen@aol.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
15 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:30:18 -0400
From : oifa@irishfield.on.ca
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
16 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:10:42 -0700
From : walter.klatt@shaw.ca
Subject: RE: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
17 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:55:49 +0000
From : srwhitenect@hotmail.com
Subject: Exhaust Support
18 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:25:22 -0400
From : klehman@albedo.net
Subject: Elevator Trim direction/ flap position indicator
19 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:50:54 -0600
From : sa@mwutah.com
Subject: RE: Elevator Trim direction/ flap position indicator
20 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:54:43 -0700 (PDT)
From : bowmanout@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: float hydro presure
21 Date : Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:06:02 -0400
From : rgfisher@zeuter.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
---------- Digest Message #1 ----------
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:17:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: bowmanout@yahoo.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
hi,
My 0-320, 150 hp, non-dynafocal mount, engine built in 1956 came from a
money. it's model designation is 0320. there is no suffix. it is the same
as an 0-320-a1 i think. you are probably correct that since the 60's there
has not been an 0-320 mooney, but the logs that came with this freshly
overhauled 0-320 definitely say that it spent it's younger days flying
faster than it is now in my christavia mk=1.
almost all our lakes have become soft water, as opposed to ice in the last
3 days. in fact i would have done my first 2005 water landing, but, i lost
hydraulic preassure after the plane sat on a blacktop ramp for 3 hours in
70 degree temps. we finished our float install in oct so this was the
first warm high sun angle day she has sat out in.
question for the group???? do you release the preassure on you hydro in
these conditions? or do you park with nose wheels castered aft and leave
100lbs on the system??? that is what i did and one of the fittings leaked.
for those who have not done this, i took off with 0 preassure and landed
same. no problem. i do wish i'd brought the "backup" pvc locks for the
nose wheels, but i left them on my ramp so i would not forget to put them
in when i backed the plane into the hangar. i decided to put the locks in
and push it in frontwards when i got back to my hangar. i'll try to find
the problem tomorrow.
andy
1088 amphibs
christavia mk=1
mich
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:06:55 -0400
From: rgfisher@zeuter.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
hi andy i park with the nose gear pointing aft always then the
pressure can bleed off which it does and nothing happens
i`m going to make a set of the tubes that go over the rod on the cylinder
just for when i push backwards
what material did you use? aluminum tubing? how do you make sure it`s
out
before takoff?
bob fisher rebel 342 on 1800 amphibs parry sound ont
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Bowman" <bowmanout@yahoo.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
money. it's model designation is 0320. there is no suffix. it is the same
hi,
My 0-320, 150 hp, non-dynafocal mount, engine built in 1956 came from a
as
an 0-320-a1 i think. you are probably correct that since the 60's there
has
not been an 0-320 mooney, but the logs that came with this freshly
overhauled 0-320 definitely say that it spent it's younger days flying
faster than it is now in my christavia mk=1.3 days. in fact i would have done my first 2005 water landing, but, i lost
almost all our lakes have become soft water, as opposed to ice in the
last
hydraulic preassure after the plane sat on a blacktop ramp for 3 hours in
70
degree temps. we finished our float install in oct so this was the first
warm high sun angle day she has sat out in.these conditions? or do you park with nose wheels castered aft and leave
question for the group???? do you release the preassure on you hydro in
100lbs on the system??? that is what i did and one of the fittings leaked.
for those who have not done this, i took off with 0 preassure and landed
same. no problem. i do wish i'd brought the "backup" pvc locks for the
nose
wheels, but i left them on my ramp so i would not forget to put them in
when
i backed the plane into the hangar. i decided to put the locks in and push
it in frontwards when i got back to my hangar. i'll try to find the
problem
tomorrow.---------- Digest Message #3 ----------
andy
1088 amphibs
christavia mk=1
mich
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:16:41 -0400
From: rebaker@sc.rr.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Epoxy primer
Wayne (and others):
The strontium chromate primer we use is covered by the following data.
It is two part epoxy and the thinner is the high humidity, blush
resistant type. One of the two companies mentioned bought the other
(don't remember which) but they should be able to cross reference.
Pratt & Lambert high solids epoxy thinner 110-059.
Pratt & Lambert epoxy primer curing agent P610421.
Sherwin Williams corrosion protective epoxy primer CM0483660.
The mix ratio is 2 resin to 1 curing agent. Mix throughly and wait 20
minutes. Then thin about 25% to spray.
Do not spray without a mask rated for this service! Read the mask
canister data and be sure.
Ralph Baker
---------- Digest Message #4 ----------
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:30:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: bowmanout@yahoo.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: nose gear back-up/foldup tubes
Hi Bob,
My partner, Clint, made the inserts out of pvc tubing, the idea came from
someone on this list. they are slit open on the bottoms to a width that
allows them to snap on over/around the cylinder rods. to assist in
installation and removal, they have pcv handles glued to them at about a
70 degree angle. to avoid departure with them installed we painted them
red. we have flown with them installed before we ready to try inflight
retraction. no problems.
hope this helps.
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:46:22 -0400
From: oifa@irishfield.on.ca
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
I can tell you, as I did earlier this winter that my hydraulic system does
not bleed down what so ever on my skis using the MAM pump. Howard's
amphibs
would stay at pressure all winter long in the hanger as well...so I kinda
wonder if you guys have internally leaking cylinders or check valves.
Just
a short park in the sun in -15c weather took the pressure from 100 to over
600psi shinning on my black stratoflex hoses. I'd left it a Zero after
that
and went into the hanger today +12 to find the pressure at 550psi! Sure
glad
I went with all solid (Stainless - only cause I had some preflared c/w
fittings that worked out) lines. Guess all I can say is YES, once you have
the airplane parked where you want it bleed to zero and check the gauge
often.
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Fisher" <rgfisher@zeuter.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
outhi andy i park with the nose gear pointing aft always then the
pressure can bleed off which it does and nothing happens
i`m going to make a set of the tubes that go over the rod on the cylinder
just for when i push backwards
what material did you use? aluminum tubing? how do you make sure it`sasbefore takoff?
bob fisher rebel 342 on 1800 amphibs parry sound ont
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Bowman" <bowmanout@yahoo.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
money. it's model designation is 0320. there is no suffix. it is the same
hi,
My 0-320, 150 hp, non-dynafocal mount, engine built in 1956 came from ahasan 0-320-a1 i think. you are probably correct that since the 60's therelastnot been an 0-320 mooney, but the logs that came with this freshly
overhauled 0-320 definitely say that it spent it's younger days flying
faster than it is now in my christavia mk=1.
almost all our lakes have become soft water, as opposed to ice in the703 days. in fact i would have done my first 2005 water landing, but, i
lost
hydraulic preassure after the plane sat on a blacktop ramp for 3 hours innosedegree temps. we finished our float install in oct so this was the first
warm high sun angle day she has sat out in.these conditions? or do you park with nose wheels castered aft and leave
question for the group???? do you release the preassure on you hydro in
100lbs on the system??? that is what i did and one of the fittings
leaked.
for those who have not done this, i took off with 0 preassure and landed
same. no problem. i do wish i'd brought the "backup" pvc locks for thewhenwheels, but i left them on my ramp so i would not forget to put them inproblemi backed the plane into the hangar. i decided to put the locks in and
push
it in frontwards when i got back to my hangar. i'll try to find thetomorrow.
andy
1088 amphibs
christavia mk=1
mich
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---------- Digest Message #6 ----------
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 19:00:47 -0700
From: walter.klatt@shaw.ca
To: rebel-builders
Subject: RE: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
My 0320 conical mount also has no suffix. I had it overhauled as
a non certified engine, so it probably doesn't resemble anything
now. It came set up for a constant speed, but I converted it for
FP. I always thought it originally came out of a Tri-Pacer.
I always release the pressure on the selector valve and keep it
in the neutral position after the gear is cycled up or down. That
way I don't put any pressure on the lines or fittings. Just
before take-off, I do have to pump them up again, so the wheels
don't drag in the water. I use the standard MAM lines, and no
problems so far. I actually preferred the clear lines, because I
could get all the air out of the system, without any messy
bleeding.
I only use the front locks when pulling it in the hangar. With
the wheels castered back as in the moving forward position, the
gear will not collapse, but if they are castered to the front as
when pulling back, they most certainly will. I use PVC pipe for
locks, cut just enough so they pop in place around the cylinder
shaft.
As for leaks, I did have some initially on some fittings, but
managed to fix them all. In some cases, I had to change the
little brass collar to a different style from a local automotive
shop, that worked better for me.
One thing to watch for, is make sure your rubber hose from the
pump to the selector valve is not fuel line as MAM apparently
shipped to some builders. Can't remember the exact PSI, but I
think mine was 600. Bruce G. would know as he found that out the
hard way, after we flew into a remote alpine lake last summer and
it sat there in the hot sun with his selector valve not in
neutral.
Walter
---------- Digest Message #7 ---------------Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Andy Bowman
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:18 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
hi,
My 0-320, 150 hp, non-dynafocal mount, engine built in
1956 came from a money. it's model designation is
0320. there is no suffix. it is the same as an
0-320-a1 i think. you are probably correct that since
the 60's there has not been an 0-320 mooney, but the
logs that came with this freshly overhauled 0-320
definitely say that it spent it's younger days flying
faster than it is now in my christavia mk=1.
almost all our lakes have become soft water, as
opposed to ice in the last 3 days. in fact i would
have done my first 2005 water landing, but, i lost
hydraulic preassure after the plane sat on a blacktop
ramp for 3 hours in 70 degree temps. we finished our
float install in oct so this was the first warm high
sun angle day she has sat out in.
question for the group???? do you release the
preassure on you hydro in these conditions? or do you
park with nose wheels castered aft and leave 100lbs on
the system??? that is what i did and one of the
fittings leaked. for those who have not done this, i
took off with 0 preassure and landed same. no problem.
i do wish i'd brought the "backup" pvc locks for the
nose wheels, but i left them on my ramp so i would not
forget to put them in when i backed the plane into the
hangar. i decided to put the locks in and push it in
frontwards when i got back to my hangar. i'll try to
find the problem tomorrow.
andy
1088 amphibs
christavia mk=1
mich
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Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:39:33 -0400
From: drewjan@cabletv.on.ca
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
My hydraulic system loses pressure after about 10minutes I replaced the
lines with truck air brake lines and fittings I've also replaced both the
pump check valves and there's no apparent leaks so at least one of my
cylinders must have an internal leak. I can live with it the way it is now
I just have to remember to give a short stroke on the pump when on final.
Maybe a little bit of air in the system would keep the pressure from going
too high when parked.
At 09:46 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote:DrewI can tell you, as I did earlier this winter that my hydraulic system does
not bleed down what so ever on my skis using the MAM pump. Howard's
amphibs
would stay at pressure all winter long in the hanger as well...so I kinda
wonder if you guys have internally leaking cylinders or check valves.
Just
a short park in the sun in -15c weather took the pressure from 100 to over
600psi shinning on my black stratoflex hoses. I'd left it a Zero after
that
and went into the hanger today +12 to find the pressure at 550psi! Sure
glad
I went with all solid (Stainless - only cause I had some preflared c/w
fittings that worked out) lines. Guess all I can say is YES, once you have
the airplane parked where you want it bleed to zero and check the gauge
often.
Wayne
---------- Digest Message #8 ----------
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:44:25 -0800
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: Rotax 912s exhaust system
Not sure what's happening Bruce... don't understand the the "can't display
image" either... there isn't anything to display? Once you click the
upload
now button are you clicking on anything else? If so, you must not do
this... once you enter your file information and click upload now... you
need to wait until the screen shows upload successful. There is no
indication that anything is happening. Anyway, just send me the pics and
a
description, and I'll take care of it. Oh, and while I prefer that pics
uploaded are 640x480, it's just to make them easy to view for everybody on
the list. There are no limitations to what you upload.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Rotax 912s exhaust system
---------- Digest Message #9 ----------Mike,
I know it has been awhile since I uploaded any pics but I have tried
several
times with the same resolute. After the upload is half complete I get a
"can't display image" message. I reduced the file size using IrfanView
but it
doesn't seem to matter.
Bruce
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:11:03 EDT
From: legeorgen@aol.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
I have found even with the selector valve in the neutral position the
pressure can built as the temperature changes. I've come to the hanger
some days
and found the lines as high as 450 psi.
As Walter said, you should make sure you were shipped hydraulic hose and
not
fuel line from MAM, or you will be cleaning hydraulic fluid from weeping
rivets and overlaps for the next year. The stuff is like Corrosion X...or
even
better.
Bruce
---------- Digest Message #10 ----------
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:43:35 -0400
From: klehman@albedo.net
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
So what this thread is saying is that it would be worth installing a
pressure relief valve if using plastic hydraulic lines...
Ken
Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
snipI can tell you, as I did earlier this winter that my hydraulic system does
not bleed down what so ever on my skis using the MAM pump. Howard's
amphibs
would stay at pressure all winter long in the hanger as well...so I kinda
wonder if you guys have internally leaking cylinders or check valves.
Just
a short park in the sun in -15c weather took the pressure from 100 to over
600psi shinning on my black stratoflex hoses. I'd left it a Zero after
that
and went into the hanger today +12 to find the pressure at 550psi! Sure
glad
I went with all solid (Stainless - only cause I had some preflared c/w
fittings that worked out) lines. Guess all I can say is YES, once you have
the airplane parked where you want it bleed to zero and check the gauge
often.
Wayne
---------- Digest Message #11 ----------
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:52:27 -0400
From: klehman@albedo.net
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: Rebel tail tips
Jesse Jenks wrote:
Don't know but I'd guess that they did.Thanks for the tips on the tips Ken.
So did the guys that installed the tip rib with flanges outboard cut a
hole
in them to clear the hinge bolts? Don't know if I'm missing something
here.
It was almost a half inch too short forward and aft. I've seen one RebelAlso, why did you have to make your rudder tip longer, and in what
dimension
are you talking about?
Thanks.
Jesse
that was the same but he just slit the trailing edge so that the
trailing edge of the tip did not wrap around the rudder. All four other
tips were a perfect fit.
Ken
---------- Digest Message #12 ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:56:16 EDT
From: wudoktor@aol.com
To: rebel-builders-d
Subject: Strontium Chromate primer - Sherwin williams
I may have used a similar epoxy primer
Sherwin Williams Aerospace Coating
meets MIL-P-23377F
two part mix
CMO724114 Adduct
and CMO724400 yellow primer
Apparently is a corrosion inhibitor and bonds pretty well to clean alum.
Wicks fairly well between riveted surfaces except for compressed contact
surfaces right under the rivet head.
Tony Wu N518R
---------- Digest Message #13 ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:52:54 -0400
From: drewjan@cabletv.on.ca
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
Or just leave the selector in the up position. Then any pressure change
can
vent back to the tank. Just have to remember to change the lever and give
a
pump before moving. And hope some helpful lineperson doesn't decide to
move
your plane while you're gone.
At 10:43 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote:DrewSo what this thread is saying is that it would be worth installing a
pressure relief valve if using plastic hydraulic lines...
Ken
Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
snipI can tell you, as I did earlier this winter that my hydraulic system
does
not bleed down what so ever on my skis using the MAM pump. Howard's
amphibs
would stay at pressure all winter long in the hanger as well...so I kinda
wonder if you guys have internally leaking cylinders or check valves.
Just
a short park in the sun in -15c weather took the pressure from 100 to
over
600psi shinning on my black stratoflex hoses. I'd left it a Zero after
that
and went into the hanger today +12 to find the pressure at 550psi! Sure
glad
I went with all solid (Stainless - only cause I had some preflared c/w
fittings that worked out) lines. Guess all I can say is YES, once you
have
the airplane parked where you want it bleed to zero and check the gauge
often.
Wayne
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---------- Digest Message #14 ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:19:59 EDT
From: legeorgen@aol.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
"Or just leave the selector in the up position."
And make sure your nose gear is castered back and/or your PVC locks are on
or you will take a nose dive! Been there and done that too.
Bruce
---------- Digest Message #15 ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:30:18 -0400
From: oifa@irishfield.on.ca
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
Even when put in the up position you are going to build pressure from
sun/temp on the other side of the system back to the hydraulic pump.
Putting
in neutral, as Walter does, only protects the line from the selector to
the
pump. Neutral is actually a locked postion so now you have pressure
building
in both the up and down lines as neither is now vented back to tank. The
only thing I use the neutral position for is removing lines... as very
little fluid loss since no air in means no fluid out.
Ken's probably hit the nail on the head...we probably should be teeing a
pressure relief valve, set at about 300 psi, into the line from the pump
to
the selector valve and then be sure to leave the selector either up or
down
to protect the entire system at all times.
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Dalgleish" <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
canOr just leave the selector in the up position. Then any pressure changeavent back to the tank. Just have to remember to change the lever and givemovepump before moving. And hope some helpful lineperson doesn't decide todoesyour plane while you're gone.
At 10:43 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote:So what this thread is saying is that it would be worth installing a
pressure relief valve if using plastic hydraulic lines...
Ken
Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
amphibskindaJustoverthatgladhaveDrewsnip
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---------- Digest Message #16 ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:10:42 -0700
From: walter.klatt@shaw.ca
To: rebel-builders
Subject: RE: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
I know mine does not hold pressure for any length of time, but
there are no external leaks. Has not been a problem for me, but I
just need to remember to pump up a couple of strokes prior to
take-off on water so my mains don't drag.
In fact, after reading this, I'm thinking I prefer some slight
internal leak through check valves, cylinder O rings or wherever
it is, so that I don't get any pressure build-ups in the heat. I
guess that's why I have never seen it on mine and no external
leaks. However, as I mentioned in a previous post, I do always
relieve pressure after cycling the gear and leave the selector in
neutral. I know some do it differently, but I think I'll stick
with my method, as it has served me well so far.
Walter
---------- Digest Message #17 ---------------Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Drew Dalgleish
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:53 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
Or just leave the selector in the up position. Then
any pressure change can
vent back to the tank. Just have to remember to change
the lever and give a
pump before moving. And hope some helpful lineperson
doesn't decide to move
your plane while you're gone.
At 10:43 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote:worth installing aSo what this thread is saying is that it would behydraulic system doespressure relief valve if using plastic hydraulic lines...
Ken
Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
pump. Howard's amphibsas well...so I kindacylinders or check valves. Justpressure from 100 to overleft it a Zero after thatpressure at 550psi! Sure gladsome preflared c/wis YES, once you haveand check the gauge-----------snip
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:55:49 +0000
From: srwhitenect@hotmail.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Exhaust Support
Hi Guys
I made my own exhaust system for my Christavia which was a cross over with
straight pipes. I made a small plate (about 3" x 1 1/2") and matched the
two rear center bolt holes for the oil pan. I welded two 1/2 inch (about
10"
long) tubes each pointing down towards an exhaust pipe. I then took a
piece
of 3/8 tube and made an open ended triangle that that came down from
behind
the engine to one pipe-flattened out an area to clamp to the pipe- across
to
the other pipe-flattened area again and then up behind the engine again. A
small piece of 3/8 pipe was welded as a support about two inches away from
each corner that attaches to the exhaust tube. When this was completed and
fitted the two exhaust stacks without any load, it was disassembled and
the
two upper 3/8 tubes were slid into the 1/2 tubes (telescopic) and
reassembled. When it was all snug in place and under no load, the 3/8 and
1/2 tubes were welded. I don't think it weighted a pound and was out of
way
of everything I had installed. Put about 400 hours on this system before
I
put the aircraft away for storage, mostly on floats and have never had a
crack-knock on wood. Will be doing something similiar when I reach the
point
with my rebel. Can also use to support throttle- mixture- carb heat
cables.
Everything is isolated to the engine. Can't get any pictures for about
another month when I take the aircraft out of storage for Oshkosh.
Steve W.
Rebel #637
---------- Digest Message #18 ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:25:22 -0400
From: klehman@albedo.net
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Elevator Trim direction/ flap position indicator
Todays silly question is which way are guys wiring the trim rocker
switch if installed on the instrument panel? Push the top to go nose
down or push the top to go nose up? If you think about a trim wheel or a
stick mounted trim switch then pushing the top for nose down makes
sense. Or you can just think of it as an up/down switch....
In case you think I'm totally nutty, the manufacturer supplies labelling
for either way:
http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html
Also at the bottom of that page is a $30. position sensor that looks
like it could be used to feed one of their $77. position indicators if
someone with electric flaps wanted a panel mounted indicator.
Ken
---------- Digest Message #19 ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:50:54 -0600
From: sa@mwutah.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: RE: Elevator Trim direction/ flap position indicator
Didn't some one say once that no questions are silly?
I suspect the majority will be push the top for nose down trim, bottom for
nose up.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:25 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Elevator Trim direction/ flap position indicator
Todays silly question is which way are guys wiring the trim rocker
switch if installed on the instrument panel? Push the top to go nose
down or push the top to go nose up? If you think about a trim wheel or a
stick mounted trim switch then pushing the top for nose down makes
sense. Or you can just think of it as an up/down switch....
In case you think I'm totally nutty, the manufacturer supplies labelling
for either way:
http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html
Also at the bottom of that page is a $30. position sensor that looks
like it could be used to feed one of their $77. position indicators if
someone with electric flaps wanted a panel mounted indicator.
Ken
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:54:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: bowmanout@yahoo.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: RE: float hydro presure
hi,
thanks to all for the helpful info. we did not finish our float install
until mid october.
as a result, we are for the first time encountering high sun angles and
70+ degree temps.
we are learning quickly what not to do. with your help we will hopfully
not have to make any more landings with zero on the presure guage.
i am inclined to go with a relief valve. my short term solution was to put
together a repair kit with the correct wrenches, hydro fluid, and some
spare fittings.
tomorrow i hope to splash for the first time in 2005.
andy
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:06:02 -0400
From: rgfisher@zeuter.com
To: rebel-builders
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
hi guys thanks everyone for all the interesting coments i guess this
is
why this forum is sooooo valuable bob fisher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
----------I know mine does not hold pressure for any length of time, but
there are no external leaks. Has not been a problem for me, but I
just need to remember to pump up a couple of strokes prior to
take-off on water so my mains don't drag.
In fact, after reading this, I'm thinking I prefer some slight
internal leak through check valves, cylinder O rings or wherever
it is, so that I don't get any pressure build-ups in the heat. I
guess that's why I have never seen it on mine and no external
leaks. However, as I mentioned in a previous post, I do always
relieve pressure after cycling the gear and leave the selector in
neutral. I know some do it differently, but I think I'll stick
with my method, as it has served me well so far.
Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Drew Dalgleish
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:53 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: float question and mooney with lyc 0-320
Or just leave the selector in the up position. Then
any pressure change can
vent back to the tank. Just have to remember to change
the lever and give a
pump before moving. And hope some helpful lineperson
doesn't decide to move
your plane while you're gone.
At 10:43 PM 4/9/2005 -0400, you wrote: worth installing a hydraulic system does pump. Howard's amphibs as well...so I kinda cylinders or check valves. Just pressure from 100 to over left it a Zero after that pressure at 550psi! Sure glad some preflared c/w is YES, once you have and check the gauge ----------- https://www.dcsol.com/login?mode=HTML -----------
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