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hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it to
the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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I ordered the firewall forward kit (0-320) with mine. After pricing their
parts list with what I could identify in catalogs it seemed
like a good idea. That was in 1999 for an Elite with a Murphy Sun N Fun
discount. Now having just about finished the engine
setup I would not do it again. It appears I will have a fair amount of items
that I will not be using. This is either due to
parts not required for my setup or they will not adapt themselves to my
installation i.e.... hoses not long enough, fittings not being the right
size. I suggest except for the motor mount, after deciding what you are
going to do under the cowl you shop around.


Keith Oliver
Elite N654ME (reserved)


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hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it to
the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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In a message dated 3/18/2005 6:45:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,
MJones@HATCH.CA writes:

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it to
the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match,


MIKE
I had shipping list around here somewhere, from kit 281. For 0-320 FWF I'll
see if I can find it.
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KEITH

any chance you can send me copy of your parts list for firewall forward,
mine sucks

mike#007

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Subject: RE: firewall forward info


I ordered the firewall forward kit (0-320) with mine. After pricing their
parts list with what I could identify in catalogs it seemed
like a good idea. That was in 1999 for an Elite with a Murphy Sun N Fun
discount. Now having just about finished the engine
setup I would not do it again. It appears I will have a fair amount of items
that I will not be using. This is either due to
parts not required for my setup or they will not adapt themselves to my
installation i.e.... hoses not long enough, fittings not being the right
size. I suggest except for the motor mount, after deciding what you are
going to do under the cowl you shop around.


Keith Oliver
Elite N654ME (reserved)


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Subject: firewall forward info


hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it to
the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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that would be great, thanks

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In a message dated 3/18/2005 6:45:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it
to
the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match,


MIKE
I had shipping list around here somewhere, from kit 281. For 0-320 FWF I'll

see if I can find it.
PDSmith




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Working on Corporate returns Mike, so would be sometime next week (at the
earliest) before I can dig out an old O-320 FWF list for yah, hopefully
someone else can help you out.

BTW, on the conical mounting engine the only rubbers that work properly to
hold the engine out from the mount, otherwise rear intake tubes rub the
mount (worse) if just using the standard rubber ones, are the Lord J6230-1's
with the steel inserts (Believe these are Decathelon rubbers). I recently
bought 4 that I thought I'd just grab for stock and darn near needed a bank
manager to accept delivery. $132.00 EACH from Leavens...AFTER my
discount.......or $528 + Taxes per set!

Wayne

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Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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I also just did a quick search on Aircraft Spruces price and they are $78 US
x ~1.30 these days = $101.40cdn Each.

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Working on Corporate returns Mike, so would be sometime next week (at the
earliest) before I can dig out an old O-320 FWF list for yah, hopefully
someone else can help you out.

BTW, on the conical mounting engine the only rubbers that work properly to
hold the engine out from the mount, otherwise rear intake tubes rub the
mount (worse) if just using the standard rubber ones, are the Lord

J6230-1's

with the steel inserts (Believe these are Decathelon rubbers). I recently
bought 4 that I thought I'd just grab for stock and darn near needed a

bank

manager to accept delivery. $132.00 EACH from Leavens...AFTER my
discount.......or $528 + Taxes per set!

Wayne

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Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall

forward

kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared

it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also

add

the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such

as

lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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HI WAYNE

ya thats the mounts j6230-1, murphy want 598 usd for 4, highway robbery,
think its auto conversion time for me, i am not paying to finance Murphy
retirement, also noted that the 0-320 install manual does not show to use
these mounts, so as usual it all screwed up

mike#007

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Working on Corporate returns Mike, so would be sometime next week (at the
earliest) before I can dig out an old O-320 FWF list for yah, hopefully
someone else can help you out.

BTW, on the conical mounting engine the only rubbers that work properly to
hold the engine out from the mount, otherwise rear intake tubes rub the
mount (worse) if just using the standard rubber ones, are the Lord J6230-1's
with the steel inserts (Believe these are Decathelon rubbers). I recently
bought 4 that I thought I'd just grab for stock and darn near needed a bank
manager to accept delivery. $132.00 EACH from Leavens...AFTER my
discount.......or $528 + Taxes per set!

Wayne

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Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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Manual is written for the Dynafocal mount. Not a big deal. The price of the
J6230's on the other hand is, if that is what they are quoting. Doesn't make
sense to me...sure that's not the price for a steel mount itself!?

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HI WAYNE

ya thats the mounts j6230-1, murphy want 598 usd for 4, highway robbery,
think its auto conversion time for me, i am not paying to finance Murphy
retirement, also noted that the 0-320 install manual does not show to use
these mounts, so as usual it all screwed up

mike#007

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Subject: Re: firewall forward info


Working on Corporate returns Mike, so would be sometime next week (at the
earliest) before I can dig out an old O-320 FWF list for yah, hopefully
someone else can help you out.

BTW, on the conical mounting engine the only rubbers that work properly to
hold the engine out from the mount, otherwise rear intake tubes rub the
mount (worse) if just using the standard rubber ones, are the Lord

J6230-1's

with the steel inserts (Believe these are Decathelon rubbers). I recently
bought 4 that I thought I'd just grab for stock and darn near needed a

bank

manager to accept delivery. $132.00 EACH from Leavens...AFTER my
discount.......or $528 + Taxes per set!

Wayne

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Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall

forward

kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared

it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also

add

the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such

as

lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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Mike:

I have their O320 parts list for the Elite, sent to me by MAM. Probably the
easiest would be if you could give me a fax number. I didn't buy the whole
thing, but picked those items I needed. While you may well have some parts
left over, the kit is far from complete. You've probably noticed that, as
you progress through the building, the quality of the instructions goes
downhill. Well, when you get ahead of the firewall, the downhill path
continues! Of couse, there are so many permutaions ahead of the firewall
that I guess that is to be expected.

In my Elite, I put in an Aerosport Power O360, Airwolf filter, Vans baffles,
a Vans carb air box, Vans bracket to support the cables going to the carb,
Vans spinner and Pasma 2 ignition on the right side, so if you want some
comments on any of these, drop me a line.

Regards, Al


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hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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Mike:

I had look at my list. It is headed "Elite Lycoming 235/320/360 Dyna-focal
Engine Mount Package March 22/99", is 7 pages long, and has 106 line items.
Let me know if it's any use to you.

Al
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to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
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thanx

mike

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I talked with Stephane from Murphy today and they are SERIOUSLY interested
in keeping the builders happy. If they can't beat a direct price on parts,
unfortuately, all they can do is advise where to buy direct to keep you
happy. It's unfortunate, but if they can't get if for any less than you can
direct they of course have to cover the +'s of shipping /brokerage/handling
etc on the resale. The price on the sheets that Nancy is quoting from
haven't changed in some time and I'm told it was apparently $496US....not
$598 that Mike was quoted. This is still of course higher than you can buy
direct from ACS and you can pay the shipping/credit card mark up/brokerage
etc. yourself if you go this route. My purchase from Leavens in Toronto, to
keep some of our money this side of the imaginary line, was $528cdn+taxes
(after my discount) and that equates to ~$410US. Pretty darn close to
Murphy's quoted list price. Leavens before discount price was $167cdn each x
4 = $668cdn or $513US. IF you walked in off the street to Leavens, without a
commercial account, this is what you would pay.

I guess I'm posting this up because negative posts don't improve our supply
route. The guys/gals at MAM are more than willing to work with you >>IF<<
you give them the chance. The place has turned around significantly in the
last while, lets not beat them "underground" again!

Wayne

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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: firewall forward info

Manual is written for the Dynafocal mount. Not a big deal. The price of

the

J6230's on the other hand is, if that is what they are quoting. Doesn't

make

sense to me...sure that's not the price for a steel mount itself!?

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: firewall forward info

HI WAYNE

ya thats the mounts j6230-1, murphy want 598 usd for 4, highway robbery,
think its auto conversion time for me, i am not paying to finance Murphy
retirement, also noted that the 0-320 install manual does not show to

use

these mounts, so as usual it all screwed up

mike#007

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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:35 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: firewall forward info


Working on Corporate returns Mike, so would be sometime next week (at

the

earliest) before I can dig out an old O-320 FWF list for yah, hopefully
someone else can help you out.

BTW, on the conical mounting engine the only rubbers that work properly

to

hold the engine out from the mount, otherwise rear intake tubes rub the
mount (worse) if just using the standard rubber ones, are the Lord

J6230-1's

with the steel inserts (Believe these are Decathelon rubbers). I

recently

bought 4 that I thought I'd just grab for stock and darn near needed a

bank

manager to accept delivery. $132.00 EACH from Leavens...AFTER my
discount.......or $528 + Taxes per set!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: "Rebel-Builders EMIAL (E-mail)" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall

forward

kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared

it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also

add

the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items

such

as

lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: firewall forward info

Mike:

I have their O320 parts list for the Elite, sent to me by MAM. Probably

the

easiest would be if you could give me a fax number. I didn't buy the

whole

thing, but picked those items I needed. While you may well have some

parts

left over, the kit is far from complete. You've probably noticed that, as
you progress through the building, the quality of the instructions goes
downhill. Well, when you get ahead of the firewall, the downhill path
continues! Of couse, there are so many permutaions ahead of the firewall
that I guess that is to be expected.

In my Elite, I put in an Aerosport Power O360, Airwolf filter, Vans

baffles,

a Vans carb air box, Vans bracket to support the cables going to the carb,
Vans spinner and Pasma 2 ignition on the right side, so if you want some
comments on any of these, drop me a line.

Regards, Al


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To: "Rebel-Builders EMIAL (E-mail)" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall

forward

kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared

it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also

add

the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such

as

lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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hi raplh

fax number is as follows 905-855-8270, appreciate the list

mike

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Ralph Baker
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:18 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: firewall forward info



----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@renc.igs.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: firewall forward info

Mike:

I have their O320 parts list for the Elite, sent to me by MAM. Probably

the

easiest would be if you could give me a fax number. I didn't buy the

whole

thing, but picked those items I needed. While you may well have some

parts

left over, the kit is far from complete. You've probably noticed that, as
you progress through the building, the quality of the instructions goes
downhill. Well, when you get ahead of the firewall, the downhill path
continues! Of couse, there are so many permutaions ahead of the firewall
that I guess that is to be expected.

In my Elite, I put in an Aerosport Power O360, Airwolf filter, Vans

baffles,

a Vans carb air box, Vans bracket to support the cables going to the carb,
Vans spinner and Pasma 2 ignition on the right side, so if you want some
comments on any of these, drop me a line.

Regards, Al


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: "Rebel-Builders EMIAL (E-mail)" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall

forward

kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared

it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also

add

the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such

as

lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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how was the vans carb air box, can you send copy of list, have vans affles
aready, what about cable mount bracket, how was it for fit

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Alan Hepburn
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:09 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: firewall forward info


Mike:

I have their O320 parts list for the Elite, sent to me by MAM. Probably the
easiest would be if you could give me a fax number. I didn't buy the whole
thing, but picked those items I needed. While you may well have some parts
left over, the kit is far from complete. You've probably noticed that, as
you progress through the building, the quality of the instructions goes
downhill. Well, when you get ahead of the firewall, the downhill path
continues! Of couse, there are so many permutaions ahead of the firewall
that I guess that is to be expected.

In my Elite, I put in an Aerosport Power O360, Airwolf filter, Vans baffles,
a Vans carb air box, Vans bracket to support the cables going to the carb,
Vans spinner and Pasma 2 ignition on the right side, so if you want some
comments on any of these, drop me a line.

Regards, Al


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jones, Michael" <MJones@HATCH.CA>
To: "Rebel-Builders EMIAL (E-mail)" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: firewall forward info

hi all

does anyone out there have parts list for an 0-320 murphy firewall forward
kit, the one i have says 0-235 on it and needless to say as i compared it

to

the 0-320 install manual the parts listed dont all match, i might also add
the prices murphy charges for this kit are insane, the major items such as
lord mounts are at least double in us dollars the spruce price

thanx

mike

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