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Hi all,
I'm still waiting for my Elite kit to arrive, supposed to be in the next
couple weeks. Any way, I'm in the process of setting up shop for
construction.
When it comes to cutting spars or heavy pieces of aluminum, what is the
cutter of choice? I was thinking of putting a fine tooth blade on my
upright bandsaw? Or how about cut off wheels?
Mike Betti



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PS- When you use the power miter saw put on some ear protection! > PDSmith

Hello from Calgary

There are specific jig saw blades made especially for aluminum. Find them
and use them, you'll be glad you did. Of course you aren't going to use a
jig saw for everything. Aluminum sticks in the teeth of the blade making

a little wider and jamming it up.

Good Luck
Murray

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In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
oifa@irishfield.on.ca writes:

Basically any power tool you use for wood working will cut
alum just fine. I use a miter saw for all my channel/angle etc.




MIKE
Like Wayne said that's about it in a nut shell. I use a band saw a lot

aluminum, thin fine tooth blade. And a disc / belt combo sander. there's

lot
of radiuses to do, touch it on the sander and clean it up with you're

Instead of filing from scratch.
PS- When you use the power miter saw put on some ear protection! Eye
protection is a no brainier.
PDSmith




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Go into a Busy Bee tool or similar outfit and buy a jug of oil that you

about 30 to 1 with water (gives just enough oil to keep things...like your
tool bed/cutters... from rusting). Used for milling or lathing. Works
wonders and makes the difference of a clogged and burnt mill cutter to one
that stays clean and sharp. Sure it would probably do the same on the saw
blade.

Cheers,
Wayne

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From: "Murray & Carol Cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Setting up shop

Hello from Calgary

There are specific jig saw blades made especially for aluminum. Find

and use them, you'll be glad you did. Of course you aren't going to use

jig saw for everything. Aluminum sticks in the teeth of the blade making

it

a little wider and jamming it up.

Good Luck
Murray

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LisaFly99@aol.com
Sent: December 15, 2004 9:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Setting up shop



In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
oifa@irishfield.on.ca writes:

Basically any power tool you use for wood working will cut
alum just fine. I use a miter saw for all my channel/angle etc.




MIKE
Like Wayne said that's about it in a nut shell. I use a band saw a lot

on

aluminum, thin fine tooth blade. And a disc / belt combo sander. there's

a

lot
of radiuses to do, touch it on the sander and clean it up with you're

file.

Instead of filing from scratch.
PS- When you use the power miter saw put on some ear protection! Eye
protection is a no brainier.
PDSmith




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I'm also told, by Brent at MAM, that Doall industrial puts out an awesome
tool wax (Toolsaver) P/N RAM24000001 Bout $12-14 a tube, but lasts a very
long time.

On the water/oil mix I just put it in a 1.99 spray bottle and squirt it on
while cutting. On the mill I can recycle most of it from the bed drain

into a small container. On my lathe... someday I'll get my tank and spray
tube functioning....but for now I just squirt and let the stuff drain into
my tank (for use when I do get it hooked up).
Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up shop

Go into a Busy Bee tool or similar outfit and buy a jug of oil that you

mix

about 30 to 1 with water (gives just enough oil to keep things...like

tool bed/cutters... from rusting). Used for milling or lathing. Works
wonders and makes the difference of a clogged and burnt mill cutter to

that stays clean and sharp. Sure it would probably do the same on the

blade.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray & Carol Cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Setting up shop

Hello from Calgary

There are specific jig saw blades made especially for aluminum. Find

them

and use them, you'll be glad you did. Of course you aren't going to

a

jig saw for everything. Aluminum sticks in the teeth of the blade

it

a little wider and jamming it up.

Good Luck
Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
LisaFly99@aol.com
Sent: December 15, 2004 9:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Setting up shop



In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
oifa@irishfield.on.ca writes:

Basically any power tool you use for wood working will cut
alum just fine. I use a miter saw for all my channel/angle etc.




MIKE
Like Wayne said that's about it in a nut shell. I use a band saw a

on

aluminum, thin fine tooth blade. And a disc / belt combo sander.

a

lot
of radiuses to do, touch it on the sander and clean it up with you're

file.

Instead of filing from scratch.
PS- When you use the power miter saw put on some ear protection! Eye
protection is a no brainier.
PDSmith




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I'm also told, by Brent at MAM, that Doall industrial puts out an awesome
tool wax (Toolsaver) P/N RAM24000001 Bout $12-14 a tube, but lasts a very
long time.

On the water/oil mix I just put it in a 1.99 spray bottle and squirt it on
while cutting. On the mill I can recycle most of it from the bed drain

into a small container. On my lathe... someday I'll get my tank and spray
tube functioning....but for now I just squirt and let the stuff drain into
my tank (for use when I do get it hooked up).
Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up shop

Go into a Busy Bee tool or similar outfit and buy a jug of oil that you

mix

about 30 to 1 with water (gives just enough oil to keep things...like

tool bed/cutters... from rusting). Used for milling or lathing. Works
wonders and makes the difference of a clogged and burnt mill cutter to

that stays clean and sharp. Sure it would probably do the same on the

blade.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray & Carol Cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Setting up shop

Hello from Calgary

There are specific jig saw blades made especially for aluminum. Find

them

and use them, you'll be glad you did. Of course you aren't going to

a

jig saw for everything. Aluminum sticks in the teeth of the blade

it

a little wider and jamming it up.

Good Luck
Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
LisaFly99@aol.com
Sent: December 15, 2004 9:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Setting up shop



In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
oifa@irishfield.on.ca writes:

Basically any power tool you use for wood working will cut
alum just fine. I use a miter saw for all my channel/angle etc.




MIKE
Like Wayne said that's about it in a nut shell. I use a band saw a

on

aluminum, thin fine tooth blade. And a disc / belt combo sander.

a

lot
of radiuses to do, touch it on the sander and clean it up with you're

file.

Instead of filing from scratch.
PS- When you use the power miter saw put on some ear protection! Eye
protection is a no brainier.
PDSmith




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From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:13:30 -0000
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: RE: Setting up shop

Hi Mike

I haven't started on the wings yet, but on the fuselage the only time I've
used a shrinker is to help the curvature on the bottom of the bottom corner
wraps from the firewall to the cabin area, just forward and under the gear
attach point (taildragger not nosewheel config). I probably could have done
it other ways, but since I have access to a shrinker I thought I'd give it a
try. That's the only place I've come across on the entire fuselage.

Nigel
745E
Derby

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Mike Betti
Sent: 17 December 2004 23:22
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Setting up shop


Is the shrinker / stretcher a necesary tool in the building of the Elite.
Still waiting for kit,
Mike Betti

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up shop

I'm also told, by Brent at MAM, that Doall industrial puts out an awesome
tool wax (Toolsaver) P/N RAM24000001 Bout $12-14 a tube, but lasts a very
long time.

On the water/oil mix I just put it in a 1.99 spray bottle and squirt it on
while cutting. On the mill I can recycle most of it from the bed drain

holes

into a small container. On my lathe... someday I'll get my tank and spray
tube functioning....but for now I just squirt and let the stuff drain into
my tank (for use when I do get it hooked up).
Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up shop

Go into a Busy Bee tool or similar outfit and buy a jug of oil that you

mix

about 30 to 1 with water (gives just enough oil to keep things...like

your

tool bed/cutters... from rusting). Used for milling or lathing. Works
wonders and makes the difference of a clogged and burnt mill cutter to

one

that stays clean and sharp. Sure it would probably do the same on the

saw

blade.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray & Carol Cherkas" <cherkas@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Setting up shop

them

use

a

making

it

lot

on

there's

a file.

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I'm also told, by Brent at MAM, that Doall industrial puts out an awesome
tool wax (Toolsaver) P/N RAM24000001 Bout $12-14 a tube, but lasts a very
long time.

On the water/oil mix I just put it in a 1.99 spray bottle and squirt it on
while cutting. On the mill I can recycle most of it from the bed drain holes
into a small container. On my lathe... someday I'll get my tank and spray
tube functioning....but for now I just squirt and let the stuff drain into
my tank (for use when I do get it hooked up).
Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up shop

Go into a Busy Bee tool or similar outfit and buy a jug of oil that you

mix

about 30 to 1 with water (gives just enough oil to keep things...like your
tool bed/cutters... from rusting). Used for milling or lathing. Works
wonders and makes the difference of a clogged and burnt mill cutter to one
that stays clean and sharp. Sure it would probably do the same on the saw
blade.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray & Carol Cherkas"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Setting up shop

Hello from Calgary

There are specific jig saw blades made especially for aluminum. Find

them

and use them, you'll be glad you did. Of course you aren't going to use

a

jig saw for everything. Aluminum sticks in the teeth of the blade making

it

a little wider and jamming it up.

Good Luck
Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
LisaFly99@aol.com
Sent: December 15, 2004 9:00 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Setting up shop



In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
oifa@irishfield.on.ca writes:

Basically any power tool you use for wood working will cut
alum just fine. I use a miter saw for all my channel/angle etc.




MIKE
Like Wayne said that's about it in a nut shell. I use a band saw a lot

on

aluminum, thin fine tooth blade. And a disc / belt combo sander. there's

a

lot
of radiuses to do, touch it on the sander and clean it up with you're

file.

Instead of filing from scratch.
PS- When you use the power miter saw put on some ear protection! Eye
protection is a no brainier.
PDSmith




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Kerosene is a good lubricant when cutting aluminum with a bandsaw. Ted

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