very nice airplane!
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:46 am
Hello!
Since year 2000 that I expect to build an airplane, since that time I am
looking for any in the range of 100 to 150 hps. The Franklin 0-235 have
always sound good to me because at that time it was selling for +/- $9000.00
usd. for a NEW engine. I have questionned Ken Beanlands about his
Christavia MK1 installation of that engine ( he was in the last RAA Magasine
in the"new in the sky" section). I found the answer very interesting and I
think that may someone else could appreciate his opinion too......
Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Beanlands" <kbeanlan@spots.ab.ca>
To: "Jean Poirier" <oxyport@globetrotter.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: very nice airplane!
visit the "very basic" Franklin web site, I have talk to them a couple of
time at the Sun'Fun and have a great interest in that little engine! Price
of a NEW engine cheaper than a rebuilt one... same engine mount as a
O-200....
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Since year 2000 that I expect to build an airplane, since that time I am
looking for any in the range of 100 to 150 hps. The Franklin 0-235 have
always sound good to me because at that time it was selling for +/- $9000.00
usd. for a NEW engine. I have questionned Ken Beanlands about his
Christavia MK1 installation of that engine ( he was in the last RAA Magasine
in the"new in the sky" section). I found the answer very interesting and I
think that may someone else could appreciate his opinion too......
Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Beanlands" <kbeanlan@spots.ab.ca>
To: "Jean Poirier" <oxyport@globetrotter.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: very nice airplane!
Very nice job!My advice, blunt as it may be, is to avoid the engine. When I bought the
engine, it was still being manufactured in Poland and it appeared that it
would be for some time. However, Pratt and Whitney bought out the company
for it's turbine business, and promptly shut down the piston engine
business. That meanss the engine is an orphan.
The last price Isaw for a new PZL was about $12K USD, but it did not
include:
-Starter (relatively rare since Skytek stopped making them) $600 USD
-Carb (I never did find one that was spec'd and had to use a similar carb
from an O-235 and modify the way it mounts) $900 USD
-Mags, relative ly easy to find, although you will need a custom harness
$1400 USD
-Alternator and mounting bracket (alternator is easy, but you may need to
fabricate a bracket as it's not included with the base engine) $300 USD
Throw in the manufacture of an engine mount (although it will mount on
an O-200 mount, the crankshaft sits lower than the O-200 relative to
teh mounts) and you have a cost of about $16,000 USD. It would be
relatively easy to pick up an O-235 with 900 hours on it for less than
this, and you'll still have 1500 hours to TBO (same TBO as a new Frank).
Having said all that, the engine itself is pretty good and hasn't given me
much problem except hard starting below -5C. However, there is only 52 hrs
TTSN.
Feel free to ask if you have any other questions. There has been talk that
one of the major parts shops in the states (ECI) was planning to buy the
Franklin manufacturing rights, but I haven't seen anything released to
that effect. I even asked ECI directly and they said nothing. If that
happens, then this could be a viable little engine again.
Good luck.
Ken Beanlands
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Christavia MK 1 #363, C-GREN
Cygnet SF-2A #378
Barrows Bearhawk #468
<http://www.spots.ab.ca/~kbeanlan>
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Jean Poirier wrote:
Hello Mr. Beanlands
I have saw your airplane in the raa magasine and now on your web site.
am looking for everything about homebuilt since the 5-6 years, I haveI owned a Piper Pa-22 Colt and I am building a Murphy Rebel. Since I
visit the "very basic" Franklin web site, I have talk to them a couple of
time at the Sun'Fun and have a great interest in that little engine! Price
of a NEW engine cheaper than a rebuilt one... same engine mount as a
O-200....
of service.... bla bla bla....Some people told me the biggest problem was part availabilitys and lack
Can you tell me about your experience with that engine.....
Thanks
Jean Poirier
P.S.: just for fun I have join a picture of my PA-22
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