Can anyone tell me which side of the oil pump is the pressure side and which
side is the intake? I would like to hook it up right the first time. Also I
need to find out what oil filter works best and where do I buy it. Does a person
lose any efficiency by locating the air start system in a remote location
(rear baggage compartment)?
Thanks;
Larry Luckinbill
Columbus MT
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KJKimball
I need informatiom on the M14P
Oil pump out is left side, in is on right.
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
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http://www.pittsmodel12.com/
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Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/
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Ryan Mowat
I need informatiom on the M14P
I see JK has answered the oil question. If you need more information I can
post or email a full diagram for you.
The oil filter is an interesting question. If you want a non airplane unit
Doug Beechel SR 176 had a great example of one from a farm equipment - low
cost and works great. Doug lives in Arkansas, have his number at work if
you need it. Other options include any high flow unit with -12
input/output, there is two companies that I have seen. I used a high flow
unit from the northwest - Brain fart on the name - but If you email me
sometime at rmowat@forge-industrial.com I can look it up.
On the air start. Really good question. Let me tell you about my
experiment. First my answer - NO issue in effeciency, and Yes, you should
mount it in behind the baggage door in my opinion. The exeriment I did was
to take a 2000 psi industrial air tank with a regulator on it that is
adjustable. Then I hooked 30 feet of -4 hose (braided covered aeroquip
stuff - do not use infront of fire wall - but good under floor) to the tank
and the start solenoid. The drill is to try turning the engine over and see
what min pressure still make the radial spin fast - the answer - about 250
psi is as low as you want to go. No issue with the 30 feet of hose. Works
just as well as 3 feet. The reason you want to mount it in the back is for
more capacity - the tank gets so hot up by the engine that when you cool off
you loose about 100 psi. In the back you always have max pressure. The
other reason is Weight and Ballance. You want to fly this plane with at
least 12" aft of leading edge to fly nice - and 15" is even better - you are
going to be heavy with the radial - so put the tank in the back, on floats
it is really nice at 19".
The other item you want to check before flying is the solenoid. There are
two sizes that JK has sent out. One was too small and the other works
great. The deal is that you want to double check and make sure the little
guy is on the dump solenoid and the large one is on the air start. I have
never discussed this with JK but I know that I was shipped two different
units and I swapped them once with much bitching and many terrible starts
before it was figured out. If you have the right solenoid in the system you
can almost taxi with the air start system.
Have fun building - it is sure fun to fly.
Ryan SR156.
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:21:06 EST, Skytrucks wrote
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post or email a full diagram for you.
The oil filter is an interesting question. If you want a non airplane unit
Doug Beechel SR 176 had a great example of one from a farm equipment - low
cost and works great. Doug lives in Arkansas, have his number at work if
you need it. Other options include any high flow unit with -12
input/output, there is two companies that I have seen. I used a high flow
unit from the northwest - Brain fart on the name - but If you email me
sometime at rmowat@forge-industrial.com I can look it up.
On the air start. Really good question. Let me tell you about my
experiment. First my answer - NO issue in effeciency, and Yes, you should
mount it in behind the baggage door in my opinion. The exeriment I did was
to take a 2000 psi industrial air tank with a regulator on it that is
adjustable. Then I hooked 30 feet of -4 hose (braided covered aeroquip
stuff - do not use infront of fire wall - but good under floor) to the tank
and the start solenoid. The drill is to try turning the engine over and see
what min pressure still make the radial spin fast - the answer - about 250
psi is as low as you want to go. No issue with the 30 feet of hose. Works
just as well as 3 feet. The reason you want to mount it in the back is for
more capacity - the tank gets so hot up by the engine that when you cool off
you loose about 100 psi. In the back you always have max pressure. The
other reason is Weight and Ballance. You want to fly this plane with at
least 12" aft of leading edge to fly nice - and 15" is even better - you are
going to be heavy with the radial - so put the tank in the back, on floats
it is really nice at 19".
The other item you want to check before flying is the solenoid. There are
two sizes that JK has sent out. One was too small and the other works
great. The deal is that you want to double check and make sure the little
guy is on the dump solenoid and the large one is on the air start. I have
never discussed this with JK but I know that I was shipped two different
units and I swapped them once with much bitching and many terrible starts
before it was figured out. If you have the right solenoid in the system you
can almost taxi with the air start system.
Have fun building - it is sure fun to fly.
Ryan SR156.
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:21:06 EST, Skytrucks wrote
--Can anyone tell me which side of the oil pump is the pressure side
and which side is the intake? I would like to hook it up right the
first time. Also I need to find out what oil filter works best and
where do I buy it. Does a person lose any efficiency by locating the
air start system in a remote location
(rear baggage compartment)?
Thanks;
Larry Luckinbill
Columbus MT
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Scott Aldrich
I need informatiom on the M14P
Larry, we installed an oil filter bracket made by Peterson Fluid Systems
http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/filtacc.html
Purchased from Port City Racing http://www.portcityracing.com/shop/index.php
about $67 I believe.
Model # 086-09-0304 -12AN L to R flow. The Champion Aircraft filter
CH48104 fits. Mine has a fitting on the top that I think I can put an oil
out temperature probe in.
http://www.verify-correct.com/shop/prod ... ts_id=6667
Don and Randy have this setup on their Moose (that is who sent me the links)
but neither of us have ran the engines yet.
I have it mounted on the lower left side of firewall so the oil line can
come out of the pump, go direct to the filter, then to the cooler and on up
to the tank.
I just posted two pictures to the archives under S/M Engines.
Scott
Moose 174
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:21 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: I need informatiom on the M14P
Can anyone tell me which side of the oil pump is the pressure side and which
side is the intake? I would like to hook it up right the first time. Also I
need to find out what oil filter works best and where do I buy it. Does a
person
lose any efficiency by locating the air start system in a remote location
(rear baggage compartment)?
Thanks;
Larry Luckinbill
Columbus MT
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http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/filtacc.html
Purchased from Port City Racing http://www.portcityracing.com/shop/index.php
about $67 I believe.
Model # 086-09-0304 -12AN L to R flow. The Champion Aircraft filter
CH48104 fits. Mine has a fitting on the top that I think I can put an oil
out temperature probe in.
http://www.verify-correct.com/shop/prod ... ts_id=6667
Don and Randy have this setup on their Moose (that is who sent me the links)
but neither of us have ran the engines yet.
I have it mounted on the lower left side of firewall so the oil line can
come out of the pump, go direct to the filter, then to the cooler and on up
to the tank.
I just posted two pictures to the archives under S/M Engines.
Scott
Moose 174
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Skytrucks@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 7:21 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: I need informatiom on the M14P
Can anyone tell me which side of the oil pump is the pressure side and which
side is the intake? I would like to hook it up right the first time. Also I
need to find out what oil filter works best and where do I buy it. Does a
person
lose any efficiency by locating the air start system in a remote location
(rear baggage compartment)?
Thanks;
Larry Luckinbill
Columbus MT
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