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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by Ted Waltman
A friend of mine has a "surplus" 10" tailwheel assembly off of a 185 (or
a Scott tailwheel). The problem is that I believe (haven't checked it
yet myself) it is for a 1 1/16" stinger whereas my Moose has a 1"
stinger.

Does anyone know what is involved in changing my stinger to the larger
size (major disassembly & rework or a relatively straight-forward
process)?

Following recent discussions on this list regarding problems with the
MAM tailwheel, I'd like to switch mine.

Thanks,

Ted




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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by Scott Aldrich
It would be a good amount of work to change the stinger bracket size. What
about just putting a steel sleeve over the end?

Scott

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Subject: Moose tailwheel stinger

A friend of mine has a "surplus" 10" tailwheel assembly off of a 185 (or
a Scott tailwheel). The problem is that I believe (haven't checked it
yet myself) it is for a 1 1/16" stinger whereas my Moose has a 1"
stinger.

Does anyone know what is involved in changing my stinger to the larger
size (major disassembly & rework or a relatively straight-forward
process)?

Following recent discussions on this list regarding problems with the
MAM tailwheel, I'd like to switch mine.

Thanks,

Ted




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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by Wayne G. O'Shea
I don't know Scott...I'd have to go out and open up the marine container to
have a look at my Moose...but don't see reaming a 1/16th out of that steel
spring retainer ball (at the tail post) and relieving the sides of the
Cessna Stinger slightly (if even needed) to bolt in on the multi hole
bracket. Cessna's got increased in size as they used to be 7/8 or so and
Broke quite often.

Is the MAM one 1" or 7/8" ??

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

It would be a good amount of work to change the stinger bracket size.
What
about just putting a steel sleeve over the end?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ted
Waltman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Murphy List
Subject: Moose tailwheel stinger

A friend of mine has a "surplus" 10" tailwheel assembly off of a 185 (or
a Scott tailwheel). The problem is that I believe (haven't checked it
yet myself) it is for a 1 1/16" stinger whereas my Moose has a 1"
stinger.

Does anyone know what is involved in changing my stinger to the larger
size (major disassembly & rework or a relatively straight-forward
process)?

Following recent discussions on this list regarding problems with the
MAM tailwheel, I'd like to switch mine.

Thanks,

Ted




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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by Ted Waltman
I'm sure the MAM stinger is 1".

Ted

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Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:39 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose tailwheel stinger


I don't know Scott...I'd have to go out and open up the marine container
to have a look at my Moose...but don't see reaming a 1/16th out of that
steel spring retainer ball (at the tail post) and relieving the sides of
the Cessna Stinger slightly (if even needed) to bolt in on the multi
hole bracket. Cessna's got increased in size as they used to be 7/8 or
so and Broke quite often.

Is the MAM one 1" or 7/8" ??

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

It would be a good amount of work to change the stinger bracket size.
What
about just putting a steel sleeve over the end?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ted Waltman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Murphy List
Subject: Moose tailwheel stinger

A friend of mine has a "surplus" 10" tailwheel assembly off of a 185
(or a Scott tailwheel). The problem is that I believe (haven't
checked it yet myself) it is for a 1 1/16" stinger whereas my Moose
has a 1" stinger.

Does anyone know what is involved in changing my stinger to the larger
size (major disassembly & rework or a relatively straight-forward
process)?

Following recent discussions on this list regarding problems with the
MAM tailwheel, I'd like to switch mine.

Thanks,

Ted




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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Then I can't see reaming the tail spring retainer "ball" being reamed 1/16th
being a problem IMHO.
Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <tedwaltman@i1ci.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

I'm sure the MAM stinger is 1".

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:39 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose tailwheel stinger


I don't know Scott...I'd have to go out and open up the marine container
to have a look at my Moose...but don't see reaming a 1/16th out of that
steel spring retainer ball (at the tail post) and relieving the sides of
the Cessna Stinger slightly (if even needed) to bolt in on the multi
hole bracket. Cessna's got increased in size as they used to be 7/8 or
so and Broke quite often.

Is the MAM one 1" or 7/8" ??

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

It would be a good amount of work to change the stinger bracket size.
What
about just putting a steel sleeve over the end?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ted Waltman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Murphy List
Subject: Moose tailwheel stinger

A friend of mine has a "surplus" 10" tailwheel assembly off of a 185
(or a Scott tailwheel). The problem is that I believe (haven't
checked it yet myself) it is for a 1 1/16" stinger whereas my Moose
has a 1" stinger.

Does anyone know what is involved in changing my stinger to the larger
size (major disassembly & rework or a relatively straight-forward
process)?

Following recent discussions on this list regarding problems with the
MAM tailwheel, I'd like to switch mine.

Thanks,

Ted




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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by rickhm
I have read of problems with the Rebel tail wheel from MAM. Two questions. 1) has the moose/2500 tail wheel presented a problem, demonstrated issues, etc. 2) Is there reason to believe it will?

Rick Muller
SR70

-------------- Original message --------------
Then I can't see reaming the tail spring retainer "ball" being reamed 1/16th
being a problem IMHO.
Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

I'm sure the MAM stinger is 1".

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:39 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose tailwheel stinger


I don't know Scott...I'd have to go out and open up the marine container
to have a look at my Moose...but don't see reaming a 1/16th out of that
steel spring retainer ball (at the tail post) and relieving the sides of
the Cessna Stinger slightly (if even needed) to bolt in on the multi
hole bracket. Cessna's got increased in size as they used to be 7/8 or
so and Broke quite often.

Is the MAM one 1" or 7/8" ??

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

It would be a good amount of work to change the stinger bracket size.
What
about just putting a steel sleeve over the end?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ted Waltman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Murphy List
Subject: Moose tailwheel stinger

A friend of mine has a "surplus" 10" tailwheel assembly off of a 185
(or a Scott tailwheel). The problem is that I believe (haven't
checked it yet myself) it is for a 1 1/16" stinger whereas my Moose
has a 1" stinger.

Does anyone know what is involved in changing my stinger to the larger
size (major disassembly & rework or a relatively straight-forward
process)?

Following recent discussions on this list regarding problems with the
MAM tailwheel, I'd like to switch mine.

Thanks,

Ted




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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Looks like a pretty stout casting to me...but have no field experience with
it. Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <rickhm@comcast.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: Moose tailwheel stinger

I have read of problems with the Rebel tail wheel from MAM. Two
questions. 1) has the moose/2500 tail wheel presented a problem,
demonstrated issues, etc. 2) Is there reason to believe it will?
Rick Muller
SR70

-------------- Original message --------------
Then I can't see reaming the tail spring retainer "ball" being reamed
1/16th
being a problem IMHO.
Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

I'm sure the MAM stinger is 1".

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:39 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Moose tailwheel stinger


I don't know Scott...I'd have to go out and open up the marine
container
to have a look at my Moose...but don't see reaming a 1/16th out of
that
steel spring retainer ball (at the tail post) and relieving the sides
of
the Cessna Stinger slightly (if even needed) to bolt in on the multi
hole bracket. Cessna's got increased in size as they used to be 7/8 or
so and Broke quite often.

Is the MAM one 1" or 7/8" ??

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

size.
What
Of
larger
the


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Moose tailwheel stinger

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:40 am
by Rhodes
Ted
A 10" Scott tailwheel would work good but keep in mind the tailsprings are
totally different as the Cessna is tapered and bent. The Cessna sizes were
7/8, 15/16, 1, and 1 1/8. I do not believe there was ever a 1 1/16" spring.
The nuckle at the back of your tailcone would be a tough one to drill out
and possibly dificult to remove depending how it was installed. Also hard to
adapt the 1" tailspring to a bigger hole in the Scott as it takes a fixture
to hold it in place while drilled. A new 1" casting is around $350 I think.
Another option is the new Alaska Bushwheel tailwheel which has just come
available in a 3400 size but at least $1000. You may not like it on pavement
though. If you shop around you will find a Scott with a 1" hole at a good
price.
Steve Rhodes
Moose 173


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 08:17
Subject: RE: Moose tailwheel stinger

It would be a good amount of work to change the stinger bracket size.
What
about just putting a steel sleeve over the end?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ted
Waltman
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Murphy List
Subject: Moose tailwheel stinger

A friend of mine has a "surplus" 10" tailwheel assembly off of a 185 (or
a Scott tailwheel). The problem is that I believe (haven't checked it
yet myself) it is for a 1 1/16" stinger whereas my Moose has a 1"
stinger.

Does anyone know what is involved in changing my stinger to the larger
size (major disassembly & rework or a relatively straight-forward
process)?

Following recent discussions on this list regarding problems with the
MAM tailwheel, I'd like to switch mine.

Thanks,

Ted




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