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I had the list server shut down most of last night, so I could finally
reconstruct the rebel-builders archive. Over the years the message
archives
had gotten broken up into several different pieces, and I've been wanting
to
rebuild a single database with all the messages in it in chronological
order. This amounted to 17,931 messages... from 3 different databases
with
about 24,000 messages combined, so it wasn't simply a matter of combining
them... I wanted to accomplish this without duplicates. Once a new
database
was constructed, the list server had to be allowed to "send" all these
messages to reset the message pointers... to accomplish this I
unsubscribed
everybody from the lists... then subscribed you again when it was
finished.
If you received a "Welcome" message, this is why.

Anyway, mission accomplished. You will now find a single archive
conference
for the builders list, with every message ever posted. This should make
searching the archives much simpler.

Mike

Mike, I am using a newsreader. It could be just on this computer but from
9-16-02 back to the start of the list in 2001 the Subject and Sender do

match the email that opens up.

Scott



"Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com> wrote in message
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I had the list server shut down most of last night, so I could finally
reconstruct the rebel-builders archive. Over the years the message
archives
had gotten broken up into several different pieces, and I've been

to
rebuild a single database with all the messages in it in chronological
order. This amounted to 17,931 messages... from 3 different databases
with
about 24,000 messages combined, so it wasn't simply a matter of

them... I wanted to accomplish this without duplicates. Once a new
database
was constructed, the list server had to be allowed to "send" all these
messages to reset the message pointers... to accomplish this I
unsubscribed
everybody from the lists... then subscribed you again when it was
finished.
If you received a "Welcome" message, this is why.

Anyway, mission accomplished. You will now find a single archive
conference
for the builders list, with every message ever posted. This should make
searching the archives much simpler.

Mike

I had the list server shut down most of last night, so I could finally
reconstruct the rebel-builders archive. Over the years the message

had gotten broken up into several different pieces, and I've been wanting

rebuild a single database with all the messages in it in chronological
order. This amounted to 17,931 messages... from 3 different databases

about 24,000 messages combined, so it wasn't simply a matter of combining
them... I wanted to accomplish this without duplicates. Once a new

was constructed, the list server had to be allowed to "send" all these
messages to reset the message pointers... to accomplish this I

everybody from the lists... then subscribed you again when it was

If you received a "Welcome" message, this is why.

Anyway, mission accomplished. You will now find a single archive

for the builders list, with every message ever posted. This should make
searching the archives much simpler.

Mike




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Hey Mike...how many people are subscribed to this list these days?? Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:13 PM
Subject: Archive maintenance

I had the list server shut down most of last night, so I could finally
reconstruct the rebel-builders archive. Over the years the message

archives

had gotten broken up into several different pieces, and I've been wanting

to

rebuild a single database with all the messages in it in chronological
order. This amounted to 17,931 messages... from 3 different databases

with

about 24,000 messages combined, so it wasn't simply a matter of combining
them... I wanted to accomplish this without duplicates. Once a new

database

was constructed, the list server had to be allowed to "send" all these
messages to reset the message pointers... to accomplish this I

unsubscribed

everybody from the lists... then subscribed you again when it was

finished.

If you received a "Welcome" message, this is why.

Anyway, mission accomplished. You will now find a single archive

conference

for the builders list, with every message ever posted. This should make
searching the archives much simpler.

Mike




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Got 171 right now... but there are also quite a few people who use the

server that aren't members of the list... and a few who use strictly the

interface.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance

Hey Mike...how many people are subscribed to this list these days??

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:13 PM
Subject: Archive maintenance

I had the list server shut down most of last night, so I could finally
reconstruct the rebel-builders archive. Over the years the message

archives

had gotten broken up into several different pieces, and I've been

to

rebuild a single database with all the messages in it in chronological
order. This amounted to 17,931 messages... from 3 different databases

with

about 24,000 messages combined, so it wasn't simply a matter of

them... I wanted to accomplish this without duplicates. Once a new

database

was constructed, the list server had to be allowed to "send" all these
messages to reset the message pointers... to accomplish this I

unsubscribed

everybody from the lists... then subscribed you again when it was

finished.

If you received a "Welcome" message, this is why.

Anyway, mission accomplished. You will now find a single archive

conference

for the builders list, with every message ever posted. This should

searching the archives much simpler.

Mike




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Looks like I can still be anonymous too.

<REBEL> wrote in message news:<1099074775.1.1099074769@dcsol.com>...

Mike, I am using a newsreader. It could be just on this computer but from
9-16-02 back to the start of the list in 2001 the Subject and Sender do

not

match the email that opens up.

Scott



"Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com> wrote in message
news:000301c4bdd2$30614780$0b00a8c0@dcsol.com...

I had the list server shut down most of last night, so I could finally
reconstruct the rebel-builders archive. Over the years the message
archives
had gotten broken up into several different pieces, and I've been

wanting

to
rebuild a single database with all the messages in it in chronological
order. This amounted to 17,931 messages... from 3 different databases
with
about 24,000 messages combined, so it wasn't simply a matter of

combining

them... I wanted to accomplish this without duplicates. Once a new
database
was constructed, the list server had to be allowed to "send" all these
messages to reset the message pointers... to accomplish this I
unsubscribed
everybody from the lists... then subscribed you again when it was
finished.
If you received a "Welcome" message, this is why.

Anyway, mission accomplished. You will now find a single archive
conference
for the builders list, with every message ever posted. This should
make
searching the archives much simpler.

Mike

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I didn't even think about this... in order to get you're news reader to
match up... :-( you're going to have to delete the account, set it back
up
and let it download all the headers again. The newsgroup is still called
the same, but the message numbers don't match anymore. As for the
anonymous
access... ahem, one of our members had made the "rebel" account his own...
this caused the security level to be updated. I put it all back the way
it
was, and hopefully made it so it wont happen again.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: "Rebel list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance

Looks like I can still be anonymous too.

<REBEL> wrote in message news:<1099074775.1.1099074769@dcsol.com>...

Mike, I am using a newsreader. It could be just on this computer but
from
9-16-02 back to the start of the list in 2001 the Subject and Sender do

not

match the email that opens up.

Scott



"Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com> wrote in message
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wanting

combining

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Deleting the account fixed the miss matched headers. I had to make a new
dcsol account to get back on though.

Thanks,
Scott

"Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com> wrote in message
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I didn't even think about this... in order to get you're news reader to
match up... :-( you're going to have to delete the account, set it back
up
and let it download all the headers again. The newsgroup is still called
the same, but the message numbers don't match anymore. As for the
anonymous
access... ahem, one of our members had made the "rebel" account his
own...
this caused the security level to be updated. I put it all back the way
it
was, and hopefully made it so it wont happen again.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: "Rebel list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance

Looks like I can still be anonymous too.

<REBEL> wrote in message news:<1099074775.1.1099074769@dcsol.com>... not wanting combining

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Not sure what's up with the new account... I didn't make any changes to
any
of the accounts except the generic "rebel" account... and this account has
it's own security profile, so it should not have affected any personal
accounts.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance


I didn't even think about this... in order to get
you're news reader to
match up... :-( you're going to have to delete the
account, set it back up
and let it download all the headers again. The
newsgroup is still called
the same, but the message numbers don't match anymore.
As for the anonymous
access... ahem, one of our members had made the
"rebel" account his own...
this caused the security level to be updated. I put
it all back the way it
was, and hopefully made it so it wont happen again.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: "Rebel list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance

Looks like I can still be anonymous too.

<REBEL> wrote in message

news:<1099074775.1.1099074769@dcsol.com>...

Mike, I am using a newsreader. It could be just on

this computer but from

9-16-02 back to the start of the list in 2001 the

Subject and Sender do

not

match the email that opens up.

Scott



"Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com> wrote in message
news:000301c4bdd2$30614780$0b00a8c0@dcsol.com...

night, so I could finally

years the message

pieces, and I've been

wanting

in it in chronological

3 different databases

simply a matter of

combining

duplicates. Once a new

allowed to "send" all these

accomplish this I

again when it was

a single archive

posted. This should

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I notice that my news reader won't work anymore. The ID was rebel
and the password was builder, but it won't accept it now. What ID
and password have to be used now for the news reader?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance


I didn't even think about this... in order to get
you're news reader to
match up... :-( you're going to have to delete the
account, set it back up
and let it download all the headers again. The
newsgroup is still called
the same, but the message numbers don't match anymore.
As for the anonymous
access... ahem, one of our members had made the
"rebel" account his own...
this caused the security level to be updated. I put
it all back the way it
was, and hopefully made it so it wont happen again.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: "Rebel list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance

Looks like I can still be anonymous too.

<REBEL> wrote in message

news:<1099074775.1.1099074769@dcsol.com>...

this computer but from

Subject and Sender do

not

night, so I could finally

years the message

pieces, and I've been

wanting

in it in chronological

3 different databases

simply a matter of

combining

duplicates. Once a new

allowed to "send" all these

accomplish this I

again when it was

a single archive

posted. This should

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-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance


Glad to here it's working like it's supposed to... the
rebel/builder account
was never supposed to work via NNTP... you need to use
a personal account.
If you don't have an account on the archive already, go to
http://www.dcsol.com/wins.htm and click the option to
create one. Likewise,
the rebel/builder account will no longer be able to
post messages directly
into the archives... it can still view and search, but
not post. The idea
is that we would like to know who the message came from. ;-)

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: Archive maintenance

I notice that my news reader won't work anymore. The

ID was rebel

and the password was builder, but it won't accept it

now. What ID

and password have to be used now for the news reader?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance


I didn't even think about this... in order to get
you're news reader to
match up... :-( you're going to have to delete the
account, set it back up
and let it download all the headers again. The
newsgroup is still called
the same, but the message numbers don't match anymore.
As for the anonymous
access... ahem, one of our members had made the
"rebel" account his own...
this caused the security level to be updated. I put
it all back the way it
was, and hopefully made it so it wont happen again.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Aldrich" <sa@mwutah.com>
To: "Rebel list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance

news:<1099074775.1.1099074769@dcsol.com>... this computer but from Subject and Sender do night, so I could finally years the message pieces, and I've been in it in chronological 3 different databases simply a matter of duplicates. Once a new allowed to "send" all these accomplish this I again when it was a single archive posted. This should

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I thought I signed up for one a long time ago, but forgot what it
was. Now it won't let me create a new one when I go to that link
because it says that I am already signed in/authorized
(rebel/builder). So I click on the Logoff link on another page,
but it doesn't seem to log me off, as I still get the same
message when I try to create an account.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance


Glad to here it's working like it's supposed to... the
rebel/builder account
was never supposed to work via NNTP... you need to use
a personal account.
If you don't have an account on the archive already, go to
http://www.dcsol.com/wins.htm and click the option to
create one. Likewise,
the rebel/builder account will no longer be able to
post messages directly
into the archives... it can still view and search, but
not post. The idea
is that we would like to know who the message came from. ;-)

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: Archive maintenance

I notice that my news reader won't work anymore. The

ID was rebel

and the password was builder, but it won't accept it

now. What ID

and password have to be used now for the news reader?

Walter


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-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:47 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance


You have to close your browser to log off... the log
off button at the top
just sends you back to my homepage... but the browser
doesn't forget your
user information until you close it. So open a new
browser window and go to
http://www.dcsol.com/wins, then click the link to
create an account. Or
click on/cut and paste this link into a new browser window:
https://www.dcsol.com/signup

If you created your original account before the crash
in May, you'll need to
create a new one anyway.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: Archive maintenance

I thought I signed up for one a long time ago, but

forgot what it

was. Now it won't let me create a new one when I go

to that link

because it says that I am already signed in/authorized
(rebel/builder). So I click on the Logoff link on

another page,

but it doesn't seem to log me off, as I still get the same
message when I try to create an account.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:32 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Archive maintenance


Glad to here it's working like it's supposed to... the
rebel/builder account
was never supposed to work via NNTP... you need to use
a personal account.
If you don't have an account on the archive already, go to
http://www.dcsol.com/wins.htm and click the option to
create one. Likewise,
the rebel/builder account will no longer be able to
post messages directly
into the archives... it can still view and search, but
not post. The idea
is that we would like to know who the message came

from. ;-)

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: Archive maintenance

ID was rebel now. What ID

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