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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

I know I am not the only one that has little burs on a lot of the Avex rivet
heads after pulling them with the cheapo air puller. It is caused by the
pulling head being slightly to large for the rivet. They are time consuming
to remove.

The "fix" from Steve: Take the smallest rivet pulling head (steal one off
your even cheaper WalMart hand puller, it should fit) and drill it out to an
exact fit for the RV14 rivet and you won't get the bur anymore.

Scott
Moose 174

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the mandrel will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun is reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.

Dave

Scott Aldrich wrote:

I know I am not the only one that has little burs on a lot of the Avex rivet
heads after pulling them with the cheapo air puller. It is caused by the
pulling head being slightly to large for the rivet. They are time consuming
to remove.

The "fix" from Steve: Take the smallest rivet pulling head (steal one off
your even cheaper WalMart hand puller, it should fit) and drill it out to an
exact fit for the RV14 rivet and you won't get the bur anymore.

Scott
Moose 174

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

And hopefully you guys don't have any of the bad batch of 1410 rivets that MAM sent out many years ago with the kits. These were also breaking off too high and leaving burrs to stick above the heads. They were supposed to have been all recalled.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
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Date: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the
mandrel will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun
is reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.

Dave

Scott Aldrich wrote:

I know I am not the only one that has little burs on a lot of
the Avex rivet
heads after pulling them with the cheapo air puller. It is
caused by the
pulling head being slightly to large for the rivet. They are
time consuming
to remove.

The "fix" from Steve: Take the smallest rivet pulling head
(steal one off
your even cheaper WalMart hand puller, it should fit) and drill
it out to an
exact fit for the RV14 rivet and you won't get the bur anymore.

Scott
Moose 174

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

The had gold dichromated stems and came from Rivets Unlimited!

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

And hopefully you guys don't have any of the bad batch of 1410 rivets that

MAM sent out many years ago with the kits. These were also breaking off too
high and leaving burrs to stick above the heads. They were supposed to have
been all recalled.

Walter

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Date: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the
mandrel will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun
is reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.

Dave

Scott Aldrich wrote:

I know I am not the only one that has little burs on a lot of
the Avex rivet
heads after pulling them with the cheapo air puller. It is
caused by the
pulling head being slightly to large for the rivet. They are
time consuming
to remove.

The "fix" from Steve: Take the smallest rivet pulling head
(steal one off
your even cheaper WalMart hand puller, it should fit) and drill
it out to an
exact fit for the RV14 rivet and you won't get the bur anymore.

Scott
Moose 174

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

We had a few that the stem broke off high on the bottom wing skin, not a lot
though so I don't think it was any of the recalled rivets. Ground those all
off with the dremel also.

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

And hopefully you guys don't have any of the bad batch of 1410 rivets that
MAM sent out many years ago with the kits. These were also breaking off too
high and leaving burrs to stick above the heads. They were supposed to have
been all recalled.

Walter

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Date: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the
mandrel will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun
is reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.

Dave

Scott Aldrich wrote:

I know I am not the only one that has little burs on a lot of
the Avex rivet
heads after pulling them with the cheapo air puller. It is
caused by the
pulling head being slightly to large for the rivet. They are
time consuming
to remove.

The "fix" from Steve: Take the smallest rivet pulling head
(steal one off
your even cheaper WalMart hand puller, it should fit) and drill
it out to an
exact fit for the RV14 rivet and you won't get the bur anymore.

Scott
Moose 174

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

Yeah, but MAM only replaced HALF of them & told us to use the rest in
inconspicuous places......

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

The had gold dichromated stems and came from Rivets Unlimited!

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:49 PM
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And hopefully you guys don't have any of the bad batch of 1410 rivets that
MAM sent out many years ago with the kits. These were also breaking off too
high and leaving burrs to stick above the heads. They were supposed to have
been all recalled.
Walter

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Date: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the
mandrel will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun
is reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.

Dave

Scott Aldrich wrote:
the Avex rivet caused by the time consuming (steal one off it out to an --
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

And that's a pretty hard thing to do when 80%++ are on the outside isn't it
!!

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Yeah, but MAM only replaced HALF of them & told us to use the rest in
inconspicuous places......

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

The had gold dichromated stems and came from Rivets Unlimited!

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:49 PM
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And hopefully you guys don't have any of the bad batch of 1410 rivets

that

MAM sent out many years ago with the kits. These were also breaking off

too

high and leaving burrs to stick above the heads. They were supposed to

have

been all recalled.
Walter

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Date: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

Yeh, you didn't see my invisible frowny face icon did you!

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

And that's a pretty hard thing to do when 80%++ are on the outside isn't it
!!

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Yeah, but MAM only replaced HALF of them & told us to use the rest in
inconspicuous places......

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

The had gold dichromated stems and came from Rivets Unlimited!

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

At 06:43 PM 10/29/2004 -0300, you wrote:

Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the mandrel

will

fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun is

reluctant to

give up the mandrel every time.

Ya just gotta learn to give a flip of the wrist so the mandrel drops out
the back ;)
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

Yeah except it hangs in the teeth of the pulling jaws. I haven't managed to
adjust it so it will let it go, I don't think there is enough clearance or
perhaps alignment in the tool??

Dave

Drew Dalgleish wrote:

At 06:43 PM 10/29/2004 -0300, you wrote:
Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the mandrel
will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun is
reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.
Ya just gotta learn to give a flip of the wrist so the mandrel drops out
the back ;)
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

Sometimes if the tip is a real close fit this happens...but usually if you
take the nose off, unlock the lock nut and move the tip assembly forward a
thread or so...then relock. This lets the tips assembly get pushed a little
further forward when the gun retracts and opens the puller jaws a bit more.

Wayne

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Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Yeah except it hangs in the teeth of the pulling jaws. I haven't managed

to

adjust it so it will let it go, I don't think there is enough clearance or
perhaps alignment in the tool??

Dave

Drew Dalgleish wrote:

At 06:43 PM 10/29/2004 -0300, you wrote:
Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that the

mandrel

will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun is
reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.
Ya just gotta learn to give a flip of the wrist so the mandrel drops out
the back ;)
Drew

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

Yeah, played with it couple of times but I am still not satisfied, maybe when I
have time for more patience ;o)

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

Sometimes if the tip is a real close fit this happens...but usually if you
take the nose off, unlock the lock nut and move the tip assembly forward a
thread or so...then relock. This lets the tips assembly get pushed a little
further forward when the gun retracts and opens the puller jaws a bit more.

Wayne

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Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Yeah except it hangs in the teeth of the pulling jaws. I haven't managed
to
adjust it so it will let it go, I don't think there is enough clearance or
perhaps alignment in the tool??

Dave

Drew Dalgleish wrote:

At 06:43 PM 10/29/2004 -0300, you wrote:
mandrel
will reluctant to Ya just gotta learn to give a flip of the wrist so the mandrel drops out
the back ;)
Drew

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

I sure as hell got a few of 'em "down here" !!!

Rick & Wendy Harper
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Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Yeah, but MAM only replaced HALF of them & told us to use the rest in
inconspicuous places......

Dave

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

The had gold dichromated stems and came from Rivets Unlimited!

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

And hopefully you guys don't have any of the bad batch of 1410

rivets that

MAM sent out many years ago with the kits. These were also breaking

off too

high and leaving burrs to stick above the heads. They were supposed

to have

been all recalled.
Walter

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From: David Ricker <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
Date: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Scott

We noticed this too and have been using the smallest nose that

the

mandrel will
fit through and having good luck. The only down side is the gun
is reluctant to
give up the mandrel every time.

Dave

Scott Aldrich wrote:
the Avex rivet caused by the time consuming (steal one off

drill

it out to an

anymore.

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

Even easier might be to try putting a few drops of oil into the air line
first. If I forget to do this every thousand rivets or so my puller gets
stiff and doesn't retract (go forward?) all the way...
Ken

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:

Sometimes if the tip is a real close fit this happens...but usually if you
take the nose off, unlock the lock nut and move the tip assembly forward a
thread or so...then relock. This lets the tips assembly get pushed a little
further forward when the gun retracts and opens the puller jaws a bit more.

Wayne

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Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Yeah except it hangs in the teeth of the pulling jaws. I haven't managed

to

adjust it so it will let it go, I don't think there is enough clearance or
perhaps alignment in the tool??

Dave

Drew Dalgleish wrote:

At 06:43 PM 10/29/2004 -0300, you wrote:

mandrel

will

reluctant to

Ya just gotta learn to give a flip of the wrist so the mandrel drops out
the back ;)
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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 am**

To machine the head nose, do you just use a drill? A 132' or a 118'....
We may do it with the 3/16'' rivet to.... About the "bad" batch of
rivet... with my kit I have receive many type of rivets.... 1/8 and 3/16.
When I make a "bad hole" I had to go for a 3/16 which is big... Las t yeay
at the Sun'Fun, I have buy some 5/32"(that I have not use yet... may be my
"technic" is better) but they have the "gold" mandrel. Could I use them any
way ? Is there oversize compare to a 1/8' will compensate for the ?
quality..

Jean
Rebel 747R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken" <klehman@albedo.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Even easier might be to try putting a few drops of oil into the air line
first. If I forget to do this every thousand rivets or so my puller gets
stiff and doesn't retract (go forward?) all the way...
Ken

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:

Sometimes if the tip is a real close fit this happens...but usually if

you

take the nose off, unlock the lock nut and move the tip assembly forward

a

thread or so...then relock. This lets the tips assembly get pushed a

little

further forward when the gun retracts and opens the puller jaws a bit

more.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ricker" <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: Rivet head bur

Yeah except it hangs in the teeth of the pulling jaws. I haven't

managed

to

adjust it so it will let it go, I don't think there is enough clearance

or

perhaps alignment in the tool??

Dave

Drew Dalgleish wrote:

mandrel

out

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