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Hi All,

Steve and Joel had asked for some pictures of battery and electrical layout.
I have just posted 15 pictures of same. A couple show the fuel system
installed under the pilots side of the floor. Then there are some of the
battery and terminal blocks (which make all the connections from the wing
and amphib floats) under the floor on the passengers side. We used a "wire
tray" from some of MAM's 2" channel to run all wires, cables forward and up
the inside of the firewall to behind the panel. We have a drop down fuse
panel which is shown, as well as some behind the panel shots. A front view
of the panel is also shown ... good luck matching the front items with what
is going on in back *^%$(^.

This is what Randy and I ended up with. It's one way. I hope the pictures
are of some help to those who still have these fields to plow.

Regards,
Don Boardman
& Partner, Randy Bowers
N622D Double Duce Delta Moose
#130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-Prop/Beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs
Delta Lake, Rome, NY





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Hi All,

Steve and Joel had asked for some pictures of battery and electrical layout.
I have just posted 15 pictures of same. A couple show the fuel system
installed under the pilots side of the floor. Then there are some of the
battery and terminal blocks (which make all the connections from the wing
and amphib floats) under the floor on the passengers side. We used a "wire
tray" from some of MAM's 2" channel to run all wires, cables forward and up
the inside of the firewall to behind the panel. We have a drop down fuse
panel which is shown, as well as some behind the panel shots. A front view
of the panel is also shown ... good luck matching the front items with what
is going on in back *^%$(^.

This is what Randy and I ended up with. It's one way. I hope the pictures
are of some help to those who still have these fields to plow.

Regards,
Don Boardman
& Partner, Randy Bowers
N622D Double Duce Delta Moose
#130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-Prop/Beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs
Delta Lake, Rome, NY





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Don,
Your system looks good. Nice clean installation. I like the drop down
panel for the fuse blocks. I have mostly CB style switches in the left side
panel that hinges at the bottom but I will have one small fuse block and
will copy your design for that.

What is connected through the two terminal blocks that are toward the front
of your drop down panel?

Is your firewall mounted grounding block back to back with one on the engine
side or do you just have the one inside?

What are the two red guarded switches on the front panel?

Are those utility outlets on the back of your flap handle case? That
probably stiffened up the flap handle bracket too, I find the MAM one wobbly
and welded reinforcement across the back.

Thanks for posting the pictures; I will do the same some day so everyone can
see what a messier one looks like :).

Scott
Moose 174

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Boardman
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:51 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Moose Panel/Electrical/Fuel Pictures Posted

Hi All,

Steve and Joel had asked for some pictures of battery and electrical layout.
I have just posted 15 pictures of same. A couple show the fuel system
installed under the pilots side of the floor. Then there are some of the
battery and terminal blocks (which make all the connections from the wing
and amphib floats) under the floor on the passengers side. We used a "wire
tray" from some of MAM's 2" channel to run all wires, cables forward and up
the inside of the firewall to behind the panel. We have a drop down fuse
panel which is shown, as well as some behind the panel shots. A front view
of the panel is also shown ... good luck matching the front items with what
is going on in back *^%$(^.

This is what Randy and I ended up with. It's one way. I hope the pictures
are of some help to those who still have these fields to plow.

Regards,
Don Boardman
& Partner, Randy Bowers
N622D Double Duce Delta Moose
#130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-Prop/Beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs
Delta Lake, Rome, NY





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Don:

Thanks a lot for posting the pictures of your set up.

Looks great. Has given me a lot of ideas on how to do our system.

Steve H
Moose 213


On->
-> Hi All,
->
-> Steve and Joel had asked for some pictures of battery and electrical layout.
-> I have just posted 15 pictures of same. A couple show the fuel system
-> installed under the pilots side of the floor. Then there are some of the
-> battery and terminal blocks (which make all the connections from the wing
-> and amphib floats) under the floor on the passengers side. We used a "wire
-> tray" from some of MAM's 2" channel to run all wires, cables forward and up
-> the inside of the firewall to behind the panel. We have a drop down fuse
-> panel which is shown, as well as some behind the panel shots. A front view
-> of the panel is also shown ... good luck matching the front items with what
-> is going on in back *^%$(^.
->
-> This is what Randy and I ended up with. It's one way. I hope the pictures
-> are of some help to those who still have these fields to plow.
->
-> Regards,
-> Don Boardman
-> & Partner, Randy Bowers
-> N622D Double Duce Delta Moose
-> #130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-Prop/Beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs
-> Delta Lake, Rome, NY
->
->





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From: Scott Aldrich <sa@mwutah.com>
Subject: RE: Moose Panel/Electrical/Fuel Pictures Posted

Don,
What is connected through the two terminal blocks that are toward the front
of your drop down panel?

We have Infinity Aerospace stick grips. You can see them in the picture of
the instrument panel. The sticks have trim, push to talk, 2 radio's flip
flop and memory control, momentary prop beta and constant beta control, auto
pilot disconnect and radio recorder playback. Each stick has a blue cable
that runs from the grip, along the wire tray across behind the panel along
the firewall and then down to those terminal blocks. That's the long way of
saying the terminal blocks connect the functions of the two stick grips to
there associated connections behind the panel.

Is your firewall mounted grounding block back to back with one on the engine
side or do you just have the one inside?

I originally planed to have a small block on the engine side but decided to
simply bring the few grounds I had though the SS "hole" in the firewall and
terminate the grounds with all the others, the cabin side grounding block is
close to the hole in the firewall. A back to back block is a good way to go,
I just decided that the cost to buy and or time to fabricate (less
expensive) was not worth it.

What are the two red guarded switches on the front panel?

The one to the left of the throttle brings on line a small 8 amp back up
alternator in case we loose the main 50 amp one. It also provides an
alternate 12 volt feed to our endurance buss powering items needing 12v for
convenient conclusion of the flight in the event we loose our main
alternator. Part of AeroElectric Connections all electric airplane on a
budget set up by Robert Nuckolls. If you are not yet aware of this web
site/book on wiring your airplane ... I highly recommend it and the
aeroelectric list.

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/pub/pub.html#aec9

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The second guarded switch to the right of the prop control is used to arm
the beta (reverse) prop function. Turning this switch on activates the beta
switches on the stick grips. There is also an air pressure switch that
requires the plane to be under 50 Knots before reverse can be used.

Are those utility outlets on the back of your flap handle case?

Yes, 12 volts for headsets or whatever. We also installed one at each of the
rear passenger's headset jacks which we placed at the rear of the 2" channel
that runs horizontally just under the passenger's windows.

That probably stiffened up the flap handle bracket too, I find the MAM one

wobbly and welded reinforcement across the back.

The assembly seems to have good stiffness and is a convenient place for the
headset Jacks. Note we did move the location of the flap handle aft a bit.
The hand pump for the amphib gear is located in front of the flap handle.

Thanks for posting the pictures
Scott
Moose 174

Your very welcome!
Regards,
Don B.




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