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Terry,

Read you e-mail and thought I would inform you of some parts that I
make for the Rebel aircraft.

I currently produce 3 parts. A set of 3, tips for the rudder and
elevators. Sells for $195.00 + shipping and handling.
Control rod fairing under the wings, flaperon control rods, set of 2
sells for $25.00 + shipping and handling.
Finally, a set Hoerner style wing tips, set of 2, sells for $520.00 +
shipping and handling.

Mail me back should you need more.



--- Terry Dazey <dazey@earthlink.net> wrote:

For the past several months I have been following
your newsgroup threads
and I am very interested in making some Rebel "after
factory" upgrades
along the way. Has anyone compiled a list of builder
upgrades/modifications, specifications drawings and
addresses where to
purchase aftermarket equipment (i.e. wing tips,
brake geometry kits,
landing light kits, flush fuel caps etc.)? If so, I
would like to get a
copy if possible.

You can contact me privately at:
dazey@earthlink.net.

Good luck.and good building.


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Sincerely,

David K. Fife
3D Composite Aircraft Parts Inc.
1345 Merkle St.
Ortonville, MI. 48462
Phone 248-627-4367
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Hi Terry

I just got Rebel #328R flying this week. I have all 5 of David Fife's tips
installed. Buying them was one of the smarter things that I have done is
sometime. They look fabulous, install easily, and perform as promised,
(with reference to data earlier reported flying the Hoerner style tips). I
think they are great and will save a great deal of building time.

Best Regards


Brian #328R


At 10:31 AM 01/08/99 -0700, you wrote:

Terry,

Read you e-mail and thought I would inform you of some parts that I
make for the Rebel aircraft.

I currently produce 3 parts. A set of 3, tips for the rudder and
elevators. Sells for $195.00 + shipping and handling.
Control rod fairing under the wings, flaperon control rods, set of 2
sells for $25.00 + shipping and handling.
Finally, a set Hoerner style wing tips, set of 2, sells for $520.00 +
shipping and handling.

Mail me back should you need more.



--- Terry Dazey <dazey@earthlink.net> wrote:

For the past several months I have been following
your newsgroup threads
and I am very interested in making some Rebel "after
factory" upgrades
along the way. Has anyone compiled a list of builder
upgrades/modifications, specifications drawings and
addresses where to
purchase aftermarket equipment (i.e. wing tips,
brake geometry kits,
landing light kits, flush fuel caps etc.)? If so, I
would like to get a
copy if possible.
=20
You can contact me privately at:
dazey@earthlink.net.
=20
Good luck=85and good building.
=20
=20
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=3D=3D=3D
Sincerely,

David K. Fife
3D Composite Aircraft Parts Inc.
1345 Merkle St.
Ortonville, MI. 48462
Phone 248-627-4367
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Congratulations Brian! happy to hear your'e in the air.

best of luck ,

regards, Tom.#277
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Cross <rebelair@idirect.com>
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: August 1, 1999 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: Builder Mods List

Hi Terry

I just got Rebel #328R flying this week. I have all 5 of David Fife's t=

ips

installed. Buying them was one of the smarter things that I have done i=

s

sometime. They look fabulous, install easily, and perform as promised,
(with reference to data earlier reported flying the Hoerner style tips).=

I

think they are great and will save a great deal of building time.

Best Regards


Brian #328R


At 10:31 AM 01/08/99 -0700, you wrote:

Terry,

Read you e-mail and thought I would inform you of some parts that I
make for the Rebel aircraft.

I currently produce 3 parts. A set of 3, tips for the rudder and
elevators. Sells for $195.00 + shipping and handling.
Control rod fairing under the wings, flaperon control rods, set of 2
sells for $25.00 + shipping and handling.
Finally, a set Hoerner style wing tips, set of 2, sells for $520.00 +
shipping and handling.

Mail me back should you need more.



--- Terry Dazey <dazey@earthlink.net> wrote:

For the past several months I have been following
your newsgroup threads
and I am very interested in making some Rebel "after
factory" upgrades
along the way. Has anyone compiled a list of builder
upgrades/modifications, specifications drawings and
addresses where to
purchase aftermarket equipment (i.e. wing tips,
brake geometry kits,
landing light kits, flush fuel caps etc.)? If so, I
would like to get a
copy if possible.

You can contact me privately at:
dazey@earthlink.net.

Good luck=85and good building.


*----------------------------------------------------*
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discussion
between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel
aircraft.
Archives located at:
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*----------------------------------------------------*

=3D=3D=3D
Sincerely,

David K. Fife
3D Composite Aircraft Parts Inc.
1345 Merkle St.
Ortonville, MI. 48462
Phone 248-627-4367
_____________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com

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Hi Murphy builders,
My name is Alex Russell. I Flew the prototype SR2500 at Arlington WA in
1995.
I have promoted that airplane for four years and continue to do so. I have
made several trips to the factory in Canada to fly the airplane again.
Robin
Dyck and all the Murphy staff are a first class operation. Since then I
have
been in constant contact with the Murphy people and tried to find out why
such a good airplane is not flying in the numbers that the Rebel is. They
have been very helpful in answering my questions and are eager to get more
planes in the air.

In my effort to help this process,I'm asking any SR2500 builders to reply to
me their thoughts and suggestions to let the kit builders know what a great
airplane thi is. I do not work for Murphy. I have been flying all types of
airplanes for 45 years all over the world I and don't want to see a plane of
this performance go by the wayside because of lack of information .

So I'm asking any kit builders out there "Why aer'nt your airplanes flying
after the kit was available in 1995? "

I saw the second factory built SR2500 at the factory in BC before it was
painted and later in it's beautiful paint job at Oshkosh. Darryl Murphy and
his team really know what they are doing.

I have been aware of the different engine desires if many builders even
since
Arlington in 1995. At OSH I saw a picture of a SR2500 from a builder in Ont
Canada with an M14 P radial. That's the only flying kit SR2500 I know of .
Does any one know of any others? Tomorrow I'm off to Homer Alaska to see my
friend John Farmer who has a full time team working on a plane. My intent
in
this inquiry is to get all the information I can get to build several
SR2500's for myself , my flying family and the pilots who know the C185 and
C206 and to show them the SR 2500 can do it better and more economical.

All responses welcomed,

Alex Russell

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Alex,

I bought one of the first SR's in May of 97 (s/n #025). Since that time I
have been working on the plane along with my father on evenings and
weekends. I would agree with your comment that the Murphy group is running
a first class operation. They have been extremely helpful and generous
throughout the process. I would assume no other SR's are flying yet simply
because the complete kit has not been available for too long and a plane
this large takes some time to build. I can attest that there have been no
significant problems with the Murphy package that have delayed my
construction to any great extent. Just lots of holes to deburr and a lot of
metal to clean and prime.

While I was wary of purchasing on of the first editions of a new airplane, I
have been very happy with the way all has gone together. I have my wings
and tail surfaces complete, and the fuselage is nearing completion. I have
the doors hung, the engine mount on, and am attempting to complete
proverbial last 10% which as advertised, is taking 90% of the effort. I had
planned to fly the plane this fall but if the Alaskan cold and dark gets
here before I am ready, I will spend the winter finishing the instrument
panel and interior details. I hope to fit the wings in the next month, tie
in the ailerons, flaps, fuel lines and electrical, and then take the wings
back off and put the fuselage back in the garage for instrument work.

I have also delayed my completion date by adding custom details such as
landing and taxi lights in both wings, a Beaver type heated pitot tube, and
other such details which add a lot of time to the construction. Lastly I
have a child due in a couple of weeks so that will slow me down a little (or
so I am told). I am using a Lycoming O-540 and the Hartzell 3 blade
propeller.

Also, if anyone has advice on painting an all metal plane of this size I'd
be interested in hearing the details. It sounds like the options are either
paying a healthy chunk of cash to let the professionals do the work or doing
it yourself. Doing it myself, I am concerned with both control and disposal
of etching wastewater, keeping from damaging too many brain cells with
toxic and explosive fumes and also doing a good job.

Chris Gill
Anchorage, AK

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From: AzAlexR@aol.com [SMTP:AzAlexR@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 10:54 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Builder Mods List

Hi Murphy builders,
My name is Alex Russell. I Flew the prototype SR2500 at Arlington WA
in 1995.
I have promoted that airplane for four years and continue to do so.
I have
made several trips to the factory in Canada to fly the airplane
again. Robin
Dyck and all the Murphy staff are a first class operation. Since
then I have
been in constant contact with the Murphy people and tried to find
out why
such a good airplane is not flying in the numbers that the Rebel is.
They
have been very helpful in answering my questions and are eager to
get more
planes in the air.

In my effort to help this process,I'm asking any SR2500 builders to
reply to
me their thoughts and suggestions to let the kit builders know what
a great
airplane thi is. I do not work for Murphy. I have been flying all
types of
airplanes for 45 years all over the world I and don't want to see a
plane of
this performance go by the wayside because of lack of information .

So I'm asking any kit builders out there "Why aer'nt your airplanes
flying
after the kit was available in 1995? "

I saw the second factory built SR2500 at the factory in BC before it
was
painted and later in it's beautiful paint job at Oshkosh. Darryl
Murphy and
his team really know what they are doing.

I have been aware of the different engine desires if many builders
even since
Arlington in 1995. At OSH I saw a picture of a SR2500 from a
builder in Ont
Canada with an M14 P radial. That's the only flying kit SR2500 I
know of .
Does any one know of any others? Tomorrow I'm off to Homer Alaska
to see my
friend John Farmer who has a full time team working on a plane. My
intent in
this inquiry is to get all the information I can get to build
several
SR2500's for myself , my flying family and the pilots who know the
C185 and
C206 and to show them the SR 2500 can do it better and more
economical.

All responses welcomed,

Alex Russell
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between builders and owners of Murphy Rebel aircraft.
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I can echo that. I started out using the System 3 because it was 'safer'.
The primer is, well, very tough after it cures. But, it is very fussy about
a clean surface.

I stopped using it because one day I put a primed piece in a jar of water
and left it there accidentally. Two days later you could scrape the primer
off with a fingernail.

I was surprised, especially since this an epoxy marine primer and paint
system.

The factory told me: "We never said it was waterproof. You have to topcoat
it to make it waterproof. You can use clear topcoat for that so it will
still look like primer."

Whaaat?

OH WELL.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Patterson [mailto:bob.patterson@canrem.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 6:30 PM
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List
Subject: RE: Builder Mods List



Hi, Chris !

You're not alone in wrestling with the 'painting' problem. Most of the
builders here (Southern Ontario) have decided to go to professional
aircraft paint shops, although several have had good luck with automotive
paint shops, and a few have painted their own.

One immediate thought - DO *NOT* use "System 3 water-based urethane
paint"
- it sounds like a good idea, no pollution, safe, etc..... BUT - I know of
at least THREE Rebels that used the stuff, only to have large chunks of it
FALL OFF !!! Sometimes, within weeks, others lasted a year or so.....
It seems the primer is inconsistent, as well as some of the colours. The
worst part of it was the company's reaction - "So sue us. " !!!!

Good luck on your efforts ! Keep building - it's worth it !!! :-)

....bobp

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At 09:09 AM 8/6/99 -0800, you wrote:

Alex,

I bought one of the first SR's in May of 97 (s/n #025). Since that time I
have been working on the plane along with my father on evenings and
weekends. I would agree with your comment that the Murphy group is running
a first class operation. They have been extremely helpful and generous
throughout the process. I would assume no other SR's are flying yet simply
because the complete kit has not been available for too long and a plane
this large takes some time to build. I can attest that there have been no
significant problems with the Murphy package that have delayed my
construction to any great extent. Just lots of holes to deburr and a lot

of

metal to clean and prime.

While I was wary of purchasing on of the first editions of a new airplane,

I

have been very happy with the way all has gone together. I have my wings
and tail surfaces complete, and the fuselage is nearing completion. I have
the doors hung, the engine mount on, and am attempting to complete
proverbial last 10% which as advertised, is taking 90% of the effort. I

had

planned to fly the plane this fall but if the Alaskan cold and dark gets
here before I am ready, I will spend the winter finishing the instrument
panel and interior details. I hope to fit the wings in the next month, tie
in the ailerons, flaps, fuel lines and electrical, and then take the wings
back off and put the fuselage back in the garage for instrument work.

I have also delayed my completion date by adding custom details such as
landing and taxi lights in both wings, a Beaver type heated pitot tube, and
other such details which add a lot of time to the construction. Lastly I
have a child due in a couple of weeks so that will slow me down a little

(or

so I am told). I am using a Lycoming O-540 and the Hartzell 3 blade
propeller.

Also, if anyone has advice on painting an all metal plane of this size I'd
be interested in hearing the details. It sounds like the options are

either

paying a healthy chunk of cash to let the professionals do the work or

doing

it yourself. Doing it myself, I am concerned with both control and

disposal

of etching wastewater, keeping from damaging too many brain cells with
toxic and explosive fumes and also doing a good job.

Chris Gill
Anchorage, AK

----------
From: AzAlexR@aol.com [SMTP:AzAlexR@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 10:54 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Builder Mods List

Hi Murphy builders,
My name is Alex Russell. I Flew the prototype SR2500 at Arlington WA
in 1995.
I have promoted that airplane for four years and continue to do so.
I have
made several trips to the factory in Canada to fly the airplane
again. Robin
Dyck and all the Murphy staff are a first class operation. Since
then I have
been in constant contact with the Murphy people and tried to find
out why
such a good airplane is not flying in the numbers that the Rebel is.
They
have been very helpful in answering my questions and are eager to
get more
planes in the air.

In my effort to help this process,I'm asking any SR2500 builders to
reply to
me their thoughts and suggestions to let the kit builders know what
a great
airplane thi is. I do not work for Murphy. I have been flying all
types of
airplanes for 45 years all over the world I and don't want to see a
plane of
this performance go by the wayside because of lack of information .

So I'm asking any kit builders out there "Why aer'nt your airplanes
flying
after the kit was available in 1995? "

I saw the second factory built SR2500 at the factory in BC before it
was
painted and later in it's beautiful paint job at Oshkosh. Darryl
Murphy and
his team really know what they are doing.

I have been aware of the different engine desires if many builders
even since
Arlington in 1995. At OSH I saw a picture of a SR2500 from a
builder in Ont
Canada with an M14 P radial. That's the only flying kit SR2500 I
know of .
Does any one know of any others? Tomorrow I'm off to Homer Alaska
to see my
friend John Farmer who has a full time team working on a plane. My
intent in
this inquiry is to get all the information I can get to build
several
SR2500's for myself , my flying family and the pilots who know the
C185 and
C206 and to show them the SR 2500 can do it better and more
economical.

All responses welcomed,

Alex Russell
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Archives located at:
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