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From: rebel@dcsol.com
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Aileron skin problem
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:25:29 -0800

I was stoked yesterday when I got my first aileron all clecoed together and
it actually looks like an airplane part. Today was kind of a downer though.
When I bent over the rear edges of the leading edge skin between the ribs.
I used my homemade edge roller. The 1/4" edge I bent over is pretty wavy.
It
didn't"t just roll over nicely like I was hoping. The actual edge that will
touch the fabric is pretty straight, and probably with the the fabric and
tape on there it will look fine, but I will have to look at that ugly
bent-over edge until then, and worse I dread having to butcher 3 more
ailerons like that. Is there a better way? The instructions say to use a
block of wood with a notch in it, so I can't imagine my roller is doing
worse than that. I was thinking about making a mini break out of wood, and
bending the skin removed from the aileron and clamped on the table. It
seems
like the problem is that the spar flange doesn't provide enough support for
bending the skin.
Please help.
Thanks.
Jesse Jenks





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From: "steve whitenect" <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Aileron skin problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:20:08 +0000

Hi Jesse
Sounds like yr stretching the edge. If u use the roller, only use it
several times--- more will elongate the edge so it won't lay flat. Very
common with soft alum with a bit of over-working. Chafe tape and fabric
will
hide alot.

Steve W. Rebel 637

From: rebel@dcsol.com
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Aileron skin problem
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:25:29 -0800

I was stoked yesterday when I got my first aileron all clecoed together

and

it actually looks like an airplane part. Today was kind of a downer

though.

When I bent over the rear edges of the leading edge skin between the

ribs.

I used my homemade edge roller. The 1/4" edge I bent over is pretty wavy.
It
didn't"t just roll over nicely like I was hoping. The actual edge that

will

touch the fabric is pretty straight, and probably with the the fabric and
tape on there it will look fine, but I will have to look at that ugly
bent-over edge until then, and worse I dread having to butcher 3 more
ailerons like that. Is there a better way? The instructions say to use a
block of wood with a notch in it, so I can't imagine my roller is doing
worse than that. I was thinking about making a mini break out of wood,

and

bending the skin removed from the aileron and clamped on the table. It
seems
like the problem is that the spar flange doesn't provide enough support

for

bending the skin.
Please help.
Thanks.
Jesse Jenks





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From: "Robert and Olga" <rjohnson18@cogeco.ca>
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To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Aileron skin problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:37:37 -0400

Jesse: When I built my Rebel and came to this step, I had two pieces of
wood
screwed together about 1" shorter on each side then the rib spacing. Clamp
on the skin, and very gently flex down until you get the required amount of
bend. I had great success with nice straight bends and edges. Bob J Rebel
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From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Aileron skin problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:43:01 -0700

Thanks Steve,
would I do better with the notched wood method? How do most people do this
step?
Jesse

From: "steve whitenect" <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Aileron skin problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:20:08 +0000

Hi Jesse
Sounds like yr stretching the edge. If u use the roller, only use it
several times--- more will elongate the edge so it won't lay flat. Very
common with soft alum with a bit of over-working. Chafe tape and fabric
will
hide alot.

Steve W. Rebel 637

From: rebel@dcsol.com
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Aileron skin problem
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:25:29 -0800

I was stoked yesterday when I got my first aileron all clecoed together

and

it actually looks like an airplane part. Today was kind of a downer

though.

When I bent over the rear edges of the leading edge skin between the

ribs.

I used my homemade edge roller. The 1/4" edge I bent over is pretty

wavy.

It
didn't"t just roll over nicely like I was hoping. The actual edge that

will

touch the fabric is pretty straight, and probably with the the fabric

and

tape on there it will look fine, but I will have to look at that ugly
bent-over edge until then, and worse I dread having to butcher 3 more
ailerons like that. Is there a better way? The instructions say to use

a

block of wood with a notch in it, so I can't imagine my roller is doing
worse than that. I was thinking about making a mini break out of wood,

and

bending the skin removed from the aileron and clamped on the table. It
seems
like the problem is that the spar flange doesn't provide enough support

for

bending the skin.
Please help.
Thanks.
Jesse Jenks





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From: "steve whitenect" <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Aileron skin problem
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:48:11 +0000

Hi Jesse
Just use the roller but don't overwork it. Several complete passes shud do
it slightly increasing the angle on each pass.
Steve

From: "Jesse Jenks" <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Aileron skin problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:43:01 -0700

Thanks Steve,
would I do better with the notched wood method? How do most people do

this

step?
Jesse

From: "steve whitenect" <srwhitenect@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: Aileron skin problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:20:08 +0000

Hi Jesse
Sounds like yr stretching the edge. If u use the roller, only use it
several times--- more will elongate the edge so it won't lay flat. Very
common with soft alum with a bit of over-working. Chafe tape and fabric
will
hide alot.

Steve W. Rebel 637

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From: "Robert and Olga" <rjohnson18@cogeco.ca>
Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Aileron skin problem
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:37:37 -0400

Jesse: When I built my Rebel and came to this step, I had two pieces of
wood
screwed together about 1" shorter on each side then the rib spacing. Clamp
on the skin, and very gently flex down until you get the required amount of
bend. I had great success with nice straight bends and edges. Bob J Rebel
652.




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