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Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:19 pm

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Hi Terry Thomason, Ref. Subaru engines. bobp is correct regarding =
vertical fin placement. I halved my offset. I assume you have followed =
this website and know I have a junkyard Subaru in my Rebel (#83, what =
are you doing still working on #46?), zero offset is probably fine.
Dave Bangle and Crossflow are indeed great sources and have good =
reputations. You are however looking at a large amount of money, but =
everything is done for you. As in one of my previous comments on this =
website, I have to disagree with bobp since so many of us have fallen on =
our face, you do not have to anticipate the same problems as we have had =
and therefore should not sweat a large period of experimentation like we =
had to. If I had to do it all over again, I would go with =
Eggenfellner's complete engine set-up, as he is the least expensive or =
if I could not afford even him, buy his components and do the major mods =
to a carefully selected Legacy engine, preferably a 2.5 liter one and =
make sure I got the computer and wiring harness with it if for no other =
reasons than to have it for exchange, they are available in good shape. =
I am not the last word by any means, but these engines are so well put =
together, all this internal mod.work is great, but not really necessary. =
Buy yourself a Rotax 912 cowl from Murphy and the work required to use =
it on your converted Subaru Legacy is not very difficult and gets you a =
very easy to remove cowl set-up. You can use a Warp-Drive 3-blade prop.
You will have the nicest, starting and running engine for 1/4 to 1/3th =
of the price for an old Lycoming. Eggenfellner e.mail is eaainc@aol.com=20
Good luck, Geert Frank

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>Hi Terry Thomason, Ref. Subaru engines. bobp =
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regarding vertical fin placement. I halved my offset. I assume you have =
followed=20
this website and know I have a junkyard Subaru in my Rebel (#83, what =
are you=20
doing still working on #46?), zero offset is probably fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>Dave Bangle and Crossflow are indeed great =
sources and=20
have good reputations. You are however looking at a large amount of =
money, =20
but everything is done for you.  As in one of my previous comments =
on this=20
website, I have to disagree with bobp since so many of us have fallen on =
our=20
face, you do not have to anticipate the same problems as we have had and =

therefore should not sweat a large period of experimentation like we had =

to.  If I had to do it all over again, I would go with =
Eggenfellner's=20
complete engine set-up, as he is the least expensive or if I could not =
afford=20
even him, buy his components and do the major mods to a carefully =
selected=20
Legacy engine, preferably a 2.5 liter one and make sure I got the =
computer and=20
wiring harness with it if for no other reasons than to have it for =
exchange,=20
they are available in good shape. I am not the last word by any means, =
but these=20
engines are so well put together, all this internal mod.work is great, =
but not=20
really necessary. Buy yourself a Rotax 912 cowl from Murphy and the work =

required to use it on your converted Subaru Legacy is not very difficult =
and=20
gets you a very easy to remove cowl set-up. You can use a Warp-Drive =
3-blade=20
prop.</FONT></DIV>
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running engine=20
for 1/4 to 1/3th of the price for an old Lycoming. Eggenfellner e.mail =
is <A=20
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Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:19 pm

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I don't have a Murphy, I've just been monitoring the list because I was
interested in the Rebel before getting into my current plane.

But since this has come up. I have through some wheeling and dealing
ended up a complete Eggenfellner 2.5 setup. I'd like to get rid of it
and if anyone out there would like to make me an offer I can't refuse???
it would be a good way to get your plane running.

(I already have a 2.2 installed and running great, don't need the 2.5)

This includes redrive, 2.5 Soob, harness, computer, radiators, oil
cooler, and engine mount.

Ken Bauman

Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:19 pm

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Ken:

How much?

Tim
#438R

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I don't have a Murphy, I've just been monitoring the list because I was
interested in the Rebel before getting into my current plane.

But since this has come up. I have through some wheeling and dealing
ended up a complete Eggenfellner 2.5 setup. I'd like to get rid of it
and if anyone out there would like to make me an offer I can't refuse???
it would be a good way to get your plane running.

(I already have a 2.2 installed and running great, don't need the 2.5)

This includes redrive, 2.5 Soob, harness, computer, radiators, oil
cooler, and engine mount.

Ken Bauman
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Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:19 pm

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Geert Frank wrote:
=20

Dave Bangle and Crossflow are indeed great sources and have good
reputations. You are however looking at a large amount of money,=A0 but
everything is done for you.=A0

Not necessarily Geert. We prefer the customer who wants to build his
own engine. You will still need a Reduction Drive, a Cooling System, an
Exhaust System, a Cowl System, and a Mounting System even with the stock
engine and accessories. That is our deal. Our stuff will all work with
the stock engine. But if you want to get the high power to boot, we can
do that as well. =20
=20
I don't know what Crossflow does for the above. =20

As in one of my previous comments on this

website, I have to disagree with bobp since so many of us have fallen
on our face, you do not have to anticipate the same problems as we
have had and therefore should not sweat a large period of
experimentation like we had to.=A0 If I had to do it all over again, I
would go with Eggenfellner's complete engine set-up, as he is the
least expensive or if I could not afford even him, buy his components
and do the major mods to a carefully selected Legacy engine,
preferably a 2.5 liter one and make sure I got the computer and wiring
harness with it if for no other reasons than to have it for exchange,
they are available in good shape.

I have a customer who is selling a 2.5 Eggenfeller complete engine,
redrive, and systems for pretty cheap. He is making more power with our
2.2 so doesn't need it. Contact me off list if interested. It has been
flight tested in a Storch. Of course you will still have to mount,
cowl, and cool it. =20
--=20
Dave Bangle http://www.subielyc.com/

Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:19 pm

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I HAVE REBEL #376 THAT IS CURRENTLY FLYING WITH AN O-290. I WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE ABOUT YOUR SUBARU THAT IS FOR SALE

BILL NEWKIRK

Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:25 pm

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Glad to hear from you !

Your friend is one of the lucky few !!! We have had several builders
here who have sent deposits to NSI, never to receive either an engine,
OR a refund !! According to an article in one aviation magazine, NSI
are virtually out of business !

The NSI CAP variable pitch prop has failed in flight. One builder
near Ottawa did considerable damage to his aircraft (Lancair ??) in an
outlanding, after the NSI prop shed a blade !!! The examination showed
that the hub was poorly engineered & constructed, and the blades had been
damaged for some time !

The only other comment I have heard is that the NSI EA-81 engines do
not produce anything LIKE the claimed horsepower - but then, I've heard that
about several other conversions, as well ! It does seem like a big stretch,
from 70 (or so) HP, to 115 HP - that would make the convertor ???? % smarter
than the Japanese engineers ???!!!!

....bobp

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At 05:57 PM 7/21/99 +0100, you wrote:

Dear listers, I am not a rebel owner (yet), however I am reading the list
regularly with interest.
I recently saw letter(s) criticising the NSI Subaru engine and

installation,

and I would be interested to find out what is so bad about it.
I have a very good friend who has a 118 hp NSI Subaru and variable pitch
prop. for sale at a good price, which he has flown for about 130 trouble
free hours in a Europa.
I was considering it as an alternative installation for a Rebel, until I

saw

the comments on the list.
Please tell me more !
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Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:25 pm

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Thanks to everyone who replied to my post regarding the NSI Subaru.
The engine is for sale, because the airframe met with an unfortunate
accident, whilst uninsured, and my friend is trying to recover some of his
outlay.

Regards,

Neil.

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Neil:

Why is your friend selling it?

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:02 pm

Hi Ray

I just uploaded two pix. Look for "ej22soob" and "ej22soob1" in recent
files as one went to Rebel engines and the other to the wrong
directory. I haven't seen a Soob FWF package yet that I wanted to own
so I did this one myself. It's been very interesting and very slow
progress. Ej22 with Marcotte psru and a Warp 3 blade. Yes I'm planning
amphibs after a year or so of flying.

What is your project?

Ken

ray.mason@dcsol.com wrote:

Hi Ken

Sounds like you are almost in the air. Can you post some pics of your

engine

install. Which Subie did you put in and did you do it yourseld or buy

a FWF

package. Also what prop did you bolt on. Are you planning on floats in

the

future.

Ray
Subie powered Rebel

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mike.davis · Post by **mike.davis** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:02 pm

On 10/24/2005 1:52 PM, rebel-builders@dcsol.com wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

-> Hi Ray
->
-> I just uploaded two pix. Look for "ej22soob" and "ej22soob1" in recent
-> files as one went to Rebel engines and the other to the wrong
-> directory. I haven't seen a Soob FWF package yet that I wanted to own
-> so I did this one myself. It's been very interesting and very slow
-> progress. Ej22 with Marcotte psru and a Warp 3 blade. Yes I'm planning
-> amphibs after a year or so of flying.
->
-> What is your project?
->
-> Ken
->

I moved the file to the correct area... it's so easy now that I can do it
right in the web site with a couple of clicks!

Mike

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:56 am

Got a guy looking for advise....what's the subaru mail forum address??

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