I'm totally lost

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Jacobs <jj@netexp.net>
To: Murphy Rebel <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 1:59 PM
Subject: I'm totally lost


Joel:

In my Rebel serial # 171, the pulleys attach to bulkhead "D", and the floor
ends there also. Today I am installing the brake/rudder pedals so I can't
help you with the cable problem etc.

Lonnie

Help! I absolutely cannot figure this out. The manual is contradicting
and vague. The answer is not here - hopefully it's out there somewhere. I
have two questions.

1 - Do the elevator pulley brackets attach to bulkhead 'D' or bulkhead 'E'?

2 - Does the floor end at bulkhead 'D' or bulkhead 'E'?

Bulkhead 'E' is the last 4 piece bulkhead - just in front of the one piece
one. The manual says attach the pulleys to 'D' but the picture looks more
like 'E'. The floor they sent me only reaches 'D', but the exploded fuse
drawing at the begining of the section shows flooring back to 'E'. The
manual shows floor channels back to 'E'. In the controls section they say
install cable guides all the way to the rear of the floor and the figure
shows the last ones at 'E' and no mention of any pulleys at all. I have a
picture I took at OSH down the factory Rebels tailcone, it's kinda dark but
I think the pulleys are on 'D' - and the cable runs up through a hole in

the

one piece bulkhead ABOVE the horizontal bulkhead. - No where in the manual
can I find where it says to cut this hole. Can someone give me a clue?

thank you very much!

Joel
Rebel #416

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Subject: Re: I'm totally lost

Joel,

(1)
Bulkhead 'D' is where I've located mine, from this location the cables meet
up with the elevator control arms more-or-less at a 90 degree angle and the
angle is not as severe as it would be from bulkhead 'E'.

(2)
My floor ends at bulkhead 'D'

(3)
I had the same questions, here is the reply I received from MurTech:

Question
PG 13-39: Step ?: (Figure 32?)
What is the proper location/size for the elevator cable pass-thru hole in
FUS-36/FUS-43?

ANS: We found that the best location for this hole is about 1 inch above
the flat portion of the FUS-43, centred between the left and right edge.
Cut a 2 in. x 0.5 in. oblong hole. Try this out by first by drawing this on
the part, then lining up the cable to to see where it will travel. It might
be trial and error, but once you have the best approx location, then cut the
hole, try out the cable travel, and adjust to suit. Just make sure you stay
within 2*dia of the hole edge distance.

Dave & Bert Klimas
Rebel #R472
Ramona, CA

PS Nice photos of the light installation.

Help! I absolutely cannot figure this out. The manual is contradicting
and vague. The answer is not here - hopefully it's out there somewhere. I
have two questions.

1 - Do the elevator pulley brackets attach to bulkhead 'D' or bulkhead 'E'?

2 - Does the floor end at bulkhead 'D' or bulkhead 'E'?

Bulkhead 'E' is the last 4 piece bulkhead - just in front of the one piece
one. The manual says attach the pulleys to 'D' but the picture looks more
like 'E'. The floor they sent me only reaches 'D', but the exploded fuse
drawing at the begining of the section shows flooring back to 'E'. The
manual shows floor channels back to 'E'. In the controls section they say
install cable guides all the way to the rear of the floor and the figure
shows the last ones at 'E' and no mention of any pulleys at all. I have a
picture I took at OSH down the factory Rebels tailcone, it's kinda dark but
I think the pulleys are on 'D' - and the cable runs up through a hole in

the

one piece bulkhead ABOVE the horizontal bulkhead. - No where in the manual
can I find where it says to cut this hole. Can someone give me a clue?

thank you very much!

Joel
Rebel #416

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Jacobs <jj@netexp.net>
To: Murphy Rebel <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 1:59 PM
Subject: I'm totally lost


Joel;

I just found a picture of the tail cone area of a completed Rebel that shows
a vertical hole that appears to be about one inch wide that runs from just
below the rivets that hold the vertical stabilizer in place down to just
above the rivets for the horizontal piece. I just found another picture,
where the hole is not as long but appears to be about the same width. Hope
this helps.

Lonnie

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----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Jacobs <jj@netexp.net>
To: Murphy Rebel <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 1:58 PM
Subject: I'm totally lost

1 - Do the elevator pulley brackets attach to bulkhead 'D' or bulkhead

'E'?

2 - Does the floor end at bulkhead 'D' or bulkhead 'E'?

Ok, thanks guys. I really appreciate the replies. So the pulleys go on
bulkhead 'D'. Thats good because thats where mine are. I guess the only
question that remains is why do I need floor channels between 'D' and 'E'?
I spoke with Grant at MAM and he said I could get by with two channels back
there - one on each pulley bracket and on back to bulkhead 'E'. To give the
pulley brackets more strength? I can't imagine them needing that much. And
if I wasn't putting the floor in I wouldn't be putting in ANY channels at
all!
Again, thanks. This area has been as clear as mud and I've spent way to
long trying to figure it out. I just needed some direction so I can proceed
without screwing something up.

Joel