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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Bob Fisher
hi gang are any of you having trouble with slightly higher than
desirable oil temperatures if so what have you done?

i`m running at about 210deg f at 2400 cruise this is still ok but at
this time of the yr tending to be too warm? maybe

i have the speed cowling

any ideas thanks bob fisher rebel 342 amphib 160 hp


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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Legeorgen
Hi Bob,

I have a speed cowl 0320 with the MAM packaged fire wall forward oil cooler
mounted on the firewall as Wayne shows on the web site pics and a 3" scat tube
attached also supplied by MAM. It never runs over 200* F even in the hot
summer months in Spokane, WA. I completely blocked it off this winter just to keep
the oil hot enough to bake off the moisture.

It sounds like your not getting enough air through it.

Bruce



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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Okay Bruce...the question is do you have a vernatherm or just a large plug
in the hole on that B&C oil filter adapter??

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: oil temps

Hi Bob,

I have a speed cowl 0320 with the MAM packaged fire wall forward oil
cooler
mounted on the firewall as Wayne shows on the web site pics and a 3" scat
tube
attached also supplied by MAM. It never runs over 200* F even in the hot
summer months in Spokane, WA. I completely blocked it off this winter just
to keep
the oil hot enough to bake off the moisture.

It sounds like your not getting enough air through it.

Bruce



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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Legeorgen
Wayne,

Good memory, Wayne, that you would remember I had the B&C. I read your post
and it seemed confusing to me as I was pretty sure the B&C 90* oil filter came
with its own vernatherm, or at least a hole for it to stick the one off your
old filter in.

But I have a problem keeping my oil temps up in the winter! Maybe it stuck
in the open position.? Is the plumbing for the vernatherm internal with the
engine, meaning there is not external plumbing required, right?

Bruce



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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Yes, the B&C (and lyco adapters) come with a hole for a vernatherm. If you
didn't have one in your original screen/filter adapter installation then you
probably just put a plug in the large hole...as we did with Howard's for his
remote Airwolf filter.

The Vernatherm just plugs the round hole in accessory case that's centered
between the 4 mounting bolts for the screen housing/filter adapter at
approximately 180*F. The unit expands about 3/8" to do this and once it
closes the hole the only route the oil can take is through the cooler. If
you have a problem it is usually that they usually stick open if anything
and then you have high temps because no oil is being forced through the
cooler. I guess there is a chance that your's has stuck in the extended
position and hence your cooler is on all the time, but I think I remember
telling someone to just put a plug in the B&C adapter, but can't remember if
it was you.

Next oil change take a peak by pulling that big headed plug or vernatherm
out of the adapter to see which you have. If just a plug, cover up some of
your cooler or make a sliding control plate or better yet a butterfly inside
the scat tube to the cooler. If a vernatherm, stick it in a pot of water and
you should see it expand about 3/8" as it passes 180*F or so.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: oil temps

Wayne,

Good memory, Wayne, that you would remember I had the B&C. I read your
post
and it seemed confusing to me as I was pretty sure the B&C 90* oil filter
came
with its own vernatherm, or at least a hole for it to stick the one off
your
old filter in.

But I have a problem keeping my oil temps up in the winter! Maybe it
stuck
in the open position.? Is the plumbing for the vernatherm internal with
the
engine, meaning there is not external plumbing required, right?

Bruce



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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Walter Klatt
Bob, I've got my oil cooler on the right rear baffle, and have
not had oil cooling problems. I also do not have a vernatherm and
have to tape off part of my inlet in cooler weather. Instead,
I've had trouble keeping my CHT's down on long climbs on a hot
day. How are your CHT's?

Walter
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Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:55 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: oil temps


hi gang are any of you having trouble with slightly
higher than
desirable oil temperatures if so what have you done?

i`m running at about 210deg f at 2400 cruise this
is still ok but at
this time of the yr tending to be too warm? maybe

i have the speed cowling

any ideas thanks bob fisher rebel 342 amphib 160 hp


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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Phil Stubley
Hi Bob,

I had a similar problem, stuck thermowhatever,
I chased air flow for a while until I checked by feeling (carefully) the oil
cooler when I landed. Oil cooler was cool, indicating lots af air but not
enough oil flow. If it's hot then the air flow is low, not the air.

Glad to hear you still flying those floats.
Phil.


hi gang are any of you having trouble with slightly higher than
desirable oil temperatures if so what have you done?

i`m running at about 210deg f at 2400 cruise this is still ok but at
this time of the yr tending to be too warm? maybe

i have the speed cowling

any ideas thanks bob fisher rebel 342 amphib 160 hp



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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:16 am
by Bob Fisher
walter so far my cht`s are good not high at all my sensor is under the
rear plug on the rh side bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: oil temps

Bob, I've got my oil cooler on the right rear baffle, and have
not had oil cooling problems. I also do not have a vernatherm and
have to tape off part of my inlet in cooler weather. Instead,
I've had trouble keeping my CHT's down on long climbs on a hot
day. How are your CHT's?

Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Fisher
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:55 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: oil temps


hi gang are any of you having trouble with slightly
higher than
desirable oil temperatures if so what have you done?

i`m running at about 210deg f at 2400 cruise this
is still ok but at
this time of the yr tending to be too warm? maybe

i have the speed cowling

any ideas thanks bob fisher rebel 342 amphib 160 hp


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