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to wayne (the savior)

we are now doing the elevator on our elite. I read about reinforcing the
structure in the center portion of the elevator by adding a little tab in
that center portion . doyou have to fabricate a complete new piece. and...
is it worth doing

thanks again
gilles 717e

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Would love to help you Gilles, but you should have just asked the list on
this one. I've never touched an Elite (only seen pictures!) ))
Wayne

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From: "Gilles St-Pierre" <ranchlaseigneurie@hotmail.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: elevator

to wayne (the savior)

we are now doing the elevator on our elite. I read about reinforcing the
structure in the center portion of the elevator by adding a little tab in
that center portion . doyou have to fabricate a complete new piece.

and...

is it worth doing

thanks again
gilles 717e

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Bonjour Gilles

Where did you read about the reinforcement? On the Murphy site?

There has been a service bulletin about reinforcing the structure around the hinges on earlier kits (our #583 for example) but if you have
bought a kit from MAM recently then I would expect this problem has been taken care of so it would not be a concern to you. I believe your
kit #717 would indicate that you just received the kit and all should be fine since they apply updates to the kits as they are produced.

In the end, you could verify this for certain by contacting MAM.

Hope this is helpful,

Cheers,

Dave R
Francine D.
www.elite583.cjb.net

Gilles St-Pierre wrote:

to wayne (the savior)

we are now doing the elevator on our elite. I read about reinforcing the
structure in the center portion of the elevator by adding a little tab in
that center portion . doyou have to fabricate a complete new piece. and...
is it worth doing

thanks again
gilles 717e

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I am doing an Elite, but am not aware of this. One thing I did do on the
elevator was to mount the inspection panels with a 2" piece of hinge along
the front edge, and Tinnerman nuts at the rear edge. If an inspection panel
is to be used for inspecting, then I can't see riveting it shut. (Did the
same on the rudder). I also used Tinnermans to secure the trim servo hatch,
so I can get at that. And you need to beef up the trim horn attach area
with a doubler. And if you want to be able to remove the trim tab, extend
the hinge wire to the tip rib, and put a little access hatch there to remove
it (will send pictures if you like). But the biggest fix of all is that the
spade area needs to be reduced 50% to give satisfactory feel to the
controls. I considered several ways of doing this, and finally went with
Sean White's recommendation to shorten the entire elevator by 3 11/16" at
each end. That's by far the simplest, though it does cut the total stab
area by 5%. I'm assured that this is no problem, but mine won't be flying
for a while yet.

Al Hepburn



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thanks david
glad to see that i d ont have to touch the elvator , I got the information
from www.dbis.ca
I m just starting on the internet so I hope i m giving you the add right.
the only reason I play w the keyboard is to get info to build the elite
right. oh i forgot.... probably to make new friends too and possibly
ennemies also.....by asking too many questions !

From: David Ricker <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: elevator
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:43:18 -0400

Bonjour Gilles

Where did you read about the reinforcement? On the Murphy site?

There has been a service bulletin about reinforcing the structure around
the hinges on earlier kits (our #583 for example) but if you have
bought a kit from MAM recently then I would expect this problem has been
taken care of so it would not be a concern to you. I believe your
kit #717 would indicate that you just received the kit and all should be
fine since they apply updates to the kits as they are produced.

In the end, you could verify this for certain by contacting MAM.

Hope this is helpful,

Cheers,

Dave R
Francine D.
www.elite583.cjb.net

Gilles St-Pierre wrote:

to wayne (the savior)

we are now doing the elevator on our elite. I read about reinforcing the
structure in the center portion of the elevator by adding a little tab

in

that center portion . doyou have to fabricate a complete new piece.

and...

is it worth doing

thanks again
gilles 717e

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Hi Gilles

You found the reference to the fix on the rudder page of our web site! I need to add a comment that says we have an early Elite and that
the later ones are improved in that area so it is more clear. Oops.

You will certainly make friends on our mailing list and I don't think you will make any enemies by asking questions. The reason the list
exists is to ask and answer questions and share information on our projects. You are now part of the small and growing Elite (builders)
group, welcome to the fun!

Cheers,

Dave R.
www.elite583.cjb.net

Gilles St-Pierre wrote:

thanks david
glad to see that i d ont have to touch the elvator , I got the information
from www.dbis.ca
I m just starting on the internet so I hope i m giving you the add right.
the only reason I play w the keyboard is to get info to build the elite
right. oh i forgot.... probably to make new friends too and possibly
ennemies also.....by asking too many questions !

From: David Ricker <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: elevator
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:43:18 -0400

Bonjour Gilles

Where did you read about the reinforcement? On the Murphy site?

There has been a service bulletin about reinforcing the structure around
the hinges on earlier kits (our #583 for example) but if you have
bought a kit from MAM recently then I would expect this problem has been
taken care of so it would not be a concern to you. I believe your
kit #717 would indicate that you just received the kit and all should be
fine since they apply updates to the kits as they are produced.

In the end, you could verify this for certain by contacting MAM.

Hope this is helpful,

Cheers,

Dave R
Francine D.
www.elite583.cjb.net

Gilles St-Pierre wrote:

to wayne (the savior)

we are now doing the elevator on our elite. I read about reinforcing the
structure in the center portion of the elevator by adding a little tab

in

that center portion . doyou have to fabricate a complete new piece.

and...

is it worth doing

thanks again
gilles 717e

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I am ready to rivett the elevator together with the MAM mod ,was there a
problem with clearences with the V traveling near the fin??? As well the
stabilizer and fin spar had mod doublers to the spars , what do you guys
feel that maybe the elevator would required beefed up?? it would be the
time to do it!!



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I just ran into my first road block with the manual, it involves the asse
mbly of the elevator. I

Hi Mike,

If this is anything like the Moose, then there will be a rectangular hole in
the skin just in front of the V in the center of the elevator on one side
only... if not, I'm afraid I can't help with that. Again on the Moose, your
center doublers will go on the outside of the skin, so when you rivet the
skin on you just don't put any rivets in the holes where the doublers will be
placed later.

Mike

On 2/1/2005 5:40 AM, REBEL-BUILDERS@DCSOL.COM wrote to MIKE DAVIS:

-> I just ran into my first road block with the manual, it involves the asse
-> mbly of the elevator. I