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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:00 am**

I'M ON IT WARREN!! High bidder at $330! Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Montgomery" <monty@emirates.net.ae>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 2214118&ca
tegory=26455>

Okay it's not a Rebel on Ebay but this is a must have for any of you
float flyers.
Gerry, Moose C-FISH, had one and when I saw his I just had to get one.
I bought mine on ebay for 410 USD plus 75 shipping from US to Canada.
My planes not even ready yet but used with a Porta-boat, another must
have for floats.
Mine is identical and is a 1969 Lightwin folding motor. I think it
weighs about 35# if I remember correctly.
A clean way to carry an engine in your Rebel or Moose.
This is the only one other then the one I bought that's appeared on ebay
since March.
I'd like to buy just to have as a spare.
Warren
SR029
Dubai, UAE

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:00 am**

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=26455>
Okay it's not a Rebel on Ebay but this is a must have for any of you
float flyers.
Gerry, Moose C-FISH, had one and when I saw his I just had to get one.
I bought mine on ebay for 410 USD plus 75 shipping from US to Canada.
My planes not even ready yet but used with a Porta-boat, another must
have for floats.
Mine is identical and is a 1969 Lightwin folding motor. I think it
weighs about 35# if I remember correctly.
A clean way to carry an engine in your Rebel or Moose.
This is the only one other then the one I bought that's appeared on ebay
since March.
I'd like to buy just to have as a spare.
Warren
SR029
Dubai, UAE

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:01 am**

Hey Wayne,
Do you have a light weight folding boat to go with the motor? or do you just
attach it to the airplane?
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

Thanks to everyone on the list that didn't bid and allowed me to obtain

this

folding 4 hp Evinrude motor. I paid more than I probably should have,

thanks

to 3 guys that managed to put 9 bids in on it in the last 8 minutes, but
even with the final tally and exchange rate it will be at my post office

for

pick up (and collection of the gst) for $825cdn. Just hope it's not seized
and runs! Presumed to be NOS never used from 1969/70, but I suspect it has
been overhauled (tremclad variety) and this would likely be even better as
then at least it has some oil varnish inside keeping things in shape.

Just couldn't pass up something this unique to blow some money on! If it
works will be a great useful weight (38lbs) to lash down in the early
tailcone area of FOKM, so I can take the one gallon of water out of each
rearmost float compartment (20lbs)! Needed the weight back there when

flying

alone, to get a nice flare and to hold the nose wheels off the pavement on
roll out. Also makes for a less nerve racking slide on the water, as

without

the weight at the back when landing on glassy water it felt like it was
going to dig in.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

I'M ON IT WARREN!! High bidder at $330! Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Montgomery" <monty@emirates.net.ae>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 2214118&ca

tegory=26455>
Okay it's not a Rebel on Ebay but this is a must have for any of you
float flyers.
Gerry, Moose C-FISH, had one and when I saw his I just had to get one.
I bought mine on ebay for 410 USD plus 75 shipping from US to Canada.
My planes not even ready yet but used with a Porta-boat, another must
have for floats.
Mine is identical and is a 1969 Lightwin folding motor. I think it
weighs about 35# if I remember correctly.
A clean way to carry an engine in your Rebel or Moose.
This is the only one other then the one I bought that's appeared on

ebay

since March.
I'd like to buy just to have as a spare.
Warren
SR029
Dubai, UAE

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:01 am**

Thanks to everyone on the list that didn't bid and allowed me to obtain this
folding 4 hp Evinrude motor. I paid more than I probably should have, thanks
to 3 guys that managed to put 9 bids in on it in the last 8 minutes, but
even with the final tally and exchange rate it will be at my post office for
pick up (and collection of the gst) for $825cdn. Just hope it's not seized
and runs! Presumed to be NOS never used from 1969/70, but I suspect it has
been overhauled (tremclad variety) and this would likely be even better as
then at least it has some oil varnish inside keeping things in shape.

Just couldn't pass up something this unique to blow some money on! If it
works will be a great useful weight (38lbs) to lash down in the early
tailcone area of FOKM, so I can take the one gallon of water out of each
rearmost float compartment (20lbs)! Needed the weight back there when flying
alone, to get a nice flare and to hold the nose wheels off the pavement on
roll out. Also makes for a less nerve racking slide on the water, as without
the weight at the back when landing on glassy water it felt like it was
going to dig in.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

I'M ON IT WARREN!! High bidder at $330! Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Montgomery" <monty@emirates.net.ae>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 2214118&ca

tegory=26455>
Okay it's not a Rebel on Ebay but this is a must have for any of you
float flyers.
Gerry, Moose C-FISH, had one and when I saw his I just had to get one.
I bought mine on ebay for 410 USD plus 75 shipping from US to Canada.
My planes not even ready yet but used with a Porta-boat, another must
have for floats.
Mine is identical and is a 1969 Lightwin folding motor. I think it
weighs about 35# if I remember correctly.
A clean way to carry an engine in your Rebel or Moose.
This is the only one other then the one I bought that's appeared on ebay
since March.
I'd like to buy just to have as a spare.
Warren
SR029
Dubai, UAE

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:01 am**

Wayne,

I was wondering why you needed the two gallons of ballast in the rear float
compartment. Does FOKM still have the battery mounted on the firewall? Are you
using full flaps when you run out of flare?

Bruce

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:01 am**

Battery is only part way down the tailcone! It's a bulkhead behind the rear
float point and it needs to be moved right to the back, the same as Howard's
and that would fix the "teeter totter"!

I was just playing around and found that a gallon of water in each rear
compartment was perfect for the time being (and much quicker than actually
working on moving the battery!) and if loaded up just pump the water out and
the ballast is gone. Also when I stretched the 1500's into 1800's, due to
differences in the distance from the step to the rear mounting position, the
nose of my floats are 3 inches further forward than a factory set of floats,
so this adds to things as well.

Without the ballast, solo and 1/2 fuel it didn't matter where the flaps
where, I could not hold the nose wheels off when landing on pavement and
they would immediately bang down. With the gallon of H2O in each rear
compartment I can hold the nose wheels off the ground down to 45MPH and then
they just settle lightly with full up elevator input.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

Wayne,

I was wondering why you needed the two gallons of ballast in the rear

float

compartment. Does FOKM still have the battery mounted on the firewall? Are

you

using full flaps when you run out of flare?

Bruce

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:01 am**

Hey Wayne,

Congratulations. I would think that's not a bad price at all. For my
little zodiac I bought a used Yamaha long-shaft about 10 years back
and paid over $500 plus taxes, and thought I got a good deal. It
wasn't a fold-up version either.

A few years back now, at our yacht club, we were having too many
outboard thefts right off the stern mount. Always the newest engines.
So a few of us with nice looking Honda 9.9's took and dumped
ugly/gaudy coloured paint over the top covers. Looked so bad no thief
felt inclined to take them.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:06:15 -0500, you wrote:

Thanks to everyone on the list that didn't bid and allowed me to obtain

this

folding 4 hp Evinrude motor. I paid more than I probably should have,

thanks

to 3 guys that managed to put 9 bids in on it in the last 8 minutes, but
even with the final tally and exchange rate it will be at my post office

for

pick up (and collection of the gst) for $825cdn. Just hope it's not

seized

and runs! Presumed to be NOS never used from 1969/70, but I suspect it

has

been overhauled (tremclad variety) and this would likely be even better

as

then at least it has some oil varnish inside keeping things in shape.

Just couldn't pass up something this unique to blow some money on! If it
works will be a great useful weight (38lbs) to lash down in the early
tailcone area of FOKM, so I can take the one gallon of water out of each
rearmost float compartment (20lbs)! Needed the weight back there when

flying

alone, to get a nice flare and to hold the nose wheels off the pavement

on

roll out. Also makes for a less nerve racking slide on the water, as

without

the weight at the back when landing on glassy water it felt like it was
going to dig in.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

I'M ON IT WARREN!! High bidder at $330! Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Montgomery" <monty@emirates.net.ae>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... em=2442214

118&ca

tegory=26455>
Okay it's not a Rebel on Ebay but this is a must have for any of you
float flyers.
Gerry, Moose C-FISH, had one and when I saw his I just had to get

one.

I bought mine on ebay for 410 USD plus 75 shipping from US to

Canada.

My planes not even ready yet but used with a Porta-boat, another

must

have for floats.
Mine is identical and is a 1969 Lightwin folding motor. I think it
weighs about 35# if I remember correctly.
A clean way to carry an engine in your Rebel or Moose.
This is the only one other then the one I bought that's appeared on

ebay

since March.
I'd like to buy just to have as a spare.
Warren
SR029
Dubai, UAE

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Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:01 am**

What was your empty c of g with these floats? Mine is still a
little nose heavy at 10.7, but I never had that problem. I still
have the battery in the front, and now also the heavier metal
prop, but my firewall is back 3 inches. When landing on pavement,
though, I don't let the nose wheels get too high before touching
down the mains, so they never have that far to drop, so don't
ever remember them banging down. Water landings always seem
comfortable, and I've done some pretty aggressive downwind and
glassy water touchdowns. Many years ago, I used to fly an
ultralight on floats that liked to dig in, if I wasn't fast
enough on the stick, but not the Rebel. If I touch down too fast
with the Rebel, the worst that happens is they bounce up, and I
just need to hold it off a bit longer before landing again. I've
done this when flying low due to fog and low clouds, and not
knowing exactly where the water surface was in glassy water
conditions, and it just touched and bounced up with no adverse
pull or dig in. Mind you, I kept my speed down in these
conditions, with the flaps lowered, but it was still around 70
mph. Normal touchdown speed is around 50 mph.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:05 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

Battery is only part way down the tailcone! It's a
bulkhead behind the rear
float point and it needs to be moved right to the
back, the same as Howard's
and that would fix the "teeter totter"!

I was just playing around and found that a gallon of
water in each rear
compartment was perfect for the time being (and much
quicker than actually
working on moving the battery!) and if loaded up just
pump the water out and
the ballast is gone. Also when I stretched the 1500's
into 1800's, due to
differences in the distance from the step to the rear
mounting position, the
nose of my floats are 3 inches further forward than a
factory set of floats,
so this adds to things as well.

Without the ballast, solo and 1/2 fuel it didn't
matter where the flaps
where, I could not hold the nose wheels off when
landing on pavement and
they would immediately bang down. With the gallon of
H2O in each rear
compartment I can hold the nose wheels off the ground
down to 45MPH and then
they just settle lightly with full up elevator input.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Float assesory - Evinrude Folding motor

Wayne,

I was wondering why you needed the two gallons of
ballast in the rear
float
compartment. Does FOKM still have the battery
mounted on the firewall? Are
you
using full flaps when you run out of flare?

Bruce

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