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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm**

I finally start construction (work table done, air line done, garage clean up done etc). All ribs (leading/trailing edge) are cleco to the ailerons ribs. Ready to desassemble, deburre, prime and reassemble with cleco and than rivet. Mam have send me some b/o of the original shipment but the Met-sol still b/o....... Can I use something else? In the past to repaint a Cessna elevetator, I have use top quality thinner with scothbrite. But this time it is very important because it is MY REBEL!!!! Car refinishing products or industrial, let me know....

Jean Poirier
Rebel 747R

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm**

Jean, just hit Canadian Tire or your local Hardware store and buy a couple
quart cans of Acetone.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Poirier" <oxyport@globetrotter.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:28 PM
Subject: metal preparation....

I finally start construction (work table done, air line done, garage clean

up done etc). All ribs (leading/trailing edge) are cleco to the ailerons
ribs. Ready to desassemble, deburre, prime and reassemble with cleco and
than rivet. Mam have send me some b/o of the original shipment but the
Met-sol still b/o....... Can I use something else? In the past to
repaint a Cessna elevetator, I have use top quality thinner with scothbrite.
But this time it is very important because it is MY REBEL!!!! Car
refinishing products or industrial, let me know....

Jean Poirier
Rebel 747R

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm**

I assumed Jean was talking about cleaning the aluminum prior to any epoxy or
paint. If you were talking about thinning your paint Jean, disregard my
reply!
Wayne
P.S. Dave, it's past your bedtime in NS!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ricker" <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: metal preparation....

Jean

You should use a thinner compatable with the paint you will put on the

parts. If you do go with painting the parts and assembling them dry then
use a thinner compatable with your primer, if you use the polyfibre then use
the thinner for that product.

For what it is worth, we use a chromate carrying etching primer from

Duponts' automotive line called Corlar 810R and we clean with laquer thinner
before priming. Dupont advised Corlar was the best choice for our aircraft.
Corlar is the base primer for their Imron topcoat system.

We assembly dry, this is what Cessna does so it is good enough for us! We

do not prime the outside of the assemblies, we will do this when the plane
is finished and ready to paint.

Hope this helps, have at it & enjoy!

Cheers,

Dave R.
elite583.cjb.net

Jean Poirier wrote:

I finally start construction (work table done, air line done, garage

clean up done etc). All ribs (leading/trailing edge) are cleco to the
ailerons ribs. Ready to desassemble, deburre, prime and reassemble with
cleco and than rivet. Mam have send me some b/o of the original shipment
but the Met-sol still b/o....... Can I use something else? In the past
to repaint a Cessna elevetator, I have use top quality thinner with
scothbrite. But this time it is very important because it is MY REBEL!!!!
Car refinishing products or industrial, let me know....

Jean Poirier
Rebel 747R

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm**

Hey I took my wife out for supper at least tonight! Maybe, if I get offline
now, she's still awake!! ;o)

Besides, anything beats the family/relative burials I've been attending,
that's kept me off line this week.

Wayne

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From: "David Ricker" <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: metal preparation....

I was speaking of cleanup prior to paint also, just figured that the

thinner for

the paint (or compatable) was a good idea for prep too, no issues of
compatability that way. Acetone is fine like Wayne said but I think

lacquer

thinner may be a little less costly and it also does a good job of

cleaning up

the ink from the material ID stamp..

Dave
P.S. Wayne, its' only an hour earlier in Ontario, what does that say about

your

Saturday night, night life? ;>)

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

I assumed Jean was talking about cleaning the aluminum prior to any

epoxy or

paint. If you were talking about thinning your paint Jean, disregard my
reply!
Wayne
P.S. Dave, it's past your bedtime in NS!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ricker" <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: metal preparation....

Jean

You should use a thinner compatable with the paint you will put on the
parts. If you do go with painting the parts and assembling them dry

then

use a thinner compatable with your primer, if you use the polyfibre then

use

the thinner for that product.
For what it is worth, we use a chromate carrying etching primer from
Duponts' automotive line called Corlar 810R and we clean with laquer

thinner

before priming. Dupont advised Corlar was the best choice for our

aircraft.

Corlar is the base primer for their Imron topcoat system.
We assembly dry, this is what Cessna does so it is good enough for us!

We

do not prime the outside of the assemblies, we will do this when the

plane

is finished and ready to paint.
Hope this helps, have at it & enjoy!

Cheers,

Dave R.
elite583.cjb.net

Jean Poirier wrote:

clean up done etc). All ribs (leading/trailing edge) are cleco to the
ailerons ribs. Ready to desassemble, deburre, prime and reassemble with
cleco and than rivet. Mam have send me some b/o of the original

shipment

but the Met-sol still b/o....... Can I use something else? In the

past

to repaint a Cessna elevetator, I have use top quality thinner with
scothbrite. But this time it is very important because it is MY

REBEL!!!!

Car refinishing products or industrial, let me know....

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm**

Jean

You should use a thinner compatable with the paint you will put on the parts. If you do go with painting the parts and assembling them dry then use a thinner compatable with your primer, if you use the polyfibre then use the thinner for that product.

For what it is worth, we use a chromate carrying etching primer from Duponts' automotive line called Corlar 810R and we clean with laquer thinner before priming. Dupont advised Corlar was the best choice for our aircraft. Corlar is the base primer for their Imron topcoat system.

We assembly dry, this is what Cessna does so it is good enough for us! We do not prime the outside of the assemblies, we will do this when the plane is finished and ready to paint.

Hope this helps, have at it & enjoy!

Cheers,

Dave R.
elite583.cjb.net

Jean Poirier wrote:

I finally start construction (work table done, air line done, garage clean up done etc). All ribs (leading/trailing edge) are cleco to the ailerons ribs. Ready to desassemble, deburre, prime and reassemble with cleco and than rivet. Mam have send me some b/o of the original shipment but the Met-sol still b/o....... Can I use something else? In the past to repaint a Cessna elevetator, I have use top quality thinner with scothbrite. But this time it is very important because it is MY REBEL!!!! Car refinishing products or industrial, let me know....

Jean Poirier
Rebel 747R

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm**

I was speaking of cleanup prior to paint also, just figured that the thinner for
the paint (or compatable) was a good idea for prep too, no issues of
compatability that way. Acetone is fine like Wayne said but I think lacquer
thinner may be a little less costly and it also does a good job of cleaning up
the ink from the material ID stamp..

Dave
P.S. Wayne, its' only an hour earlier in Ontario, what does that say about your
Saturday night, night life? ;>)

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:

I assumed Jean was talking about cleaning the aluminum prior to any epoxy or
paint. If you were talking about thinning your paint Jean, disregard my
reply!
Wayne
P.S. Dave, it's past your bedtime in NS!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ricker" <ricker@inherentsys.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: metal preparation....

Jean

You should use a thinner compatable with the paint you will put on the
parts. If you do go with painting the parts and assembling them dry then
use a thinner compatable with your primer, if you use the polyfibre then use
the thinner for that product.
For what it is worth, we use a chromate carrying etching primer from
Duponts' automotive line called Corlar 810R and we clean with laquer thinner
before priming. Dupont advised Corlar was the best choice for our aircraft.
Corlar is the base primer for their Imron topcoat system.
We assembly dry, this is what Cessna does so it is good enough for us! We
do not prime the outside of the assemblies, we will do this when the plane
is finished and ready to paint.
Hope this helps, have at it & enjoy!

Cheers,

Dave R.
elite583.cjb.net

Jean Poirier wrote:

I finally start construction (work table done, air line done, garage
clean up done etc). All ribs (leading/trailing edge) are cleco to the
ailerons ribs. Ready to desassemble, deburre, prime and reassemble with
cleco and than rivet. Mam have send me some b/o of the original shipment
but the Met-sol still b/o....... Can I use something else? In the past
to repaint a Cessna elevetator, I have use top quality thinner with
scothbrite. But this time it is very important because it is MY REBEL!!!!
Car refinishing products or industrial, let me know....
Jean Poirier
Rebel 747R

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:58 pm**

Hi Jean !

You can use plain acetone instead - it's the safest of a
bunch of choices. Much better than MEK or the like, but still
calls for lots of fresh air, and reduced skin contact (gloves).
A light rub with Scotchbrite won't hurt either ..

.....bobp

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At 07:28 PM 11/8/03 -0500, you wrote:

I finally start construction (work table done, air line done, garage clean

up done etc). All ribs (leading/trailing edge) are cleco to the ailerons
ribs. Ready to desassemble, deburre, prime and reassemble with cleco and
than rivet. Mam have send me some b/o of the original shipment but the
Met-sol still b/o....... Can I use something else? In the past to
repaint a Cessna elevetator, I have use top quality thinner with scothbrite.
But this time it is very important because it is MY REBEL!!!! Car
refinishing products or industrial, let me know....

Jean Poirier
Rebel 747R

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