Hi wayne
It was TC who asked if I wanted it increased when I had it re certified with
the subaru EJ-22(ea81 in it before). I did all the power and loading calcs and
it worked out ok so they approved it. When I did my climb test it was 82 deg F
and it passed by a couple of hundred ft. I know everyone flys OG which will
invalidate your insurance if there is a accident which was the only reason I
wanted it bumped. My rebel manual has a +5.7 load at 1650 100% rated which
would be +4.7 at 2000. In rough air and we get lots, I power back to 60knts so
it would stall out before hitting those G's. I think MAM needs to address this
issue as if I had 400lbs of pilot/pass I would only be able to put 12 gal in
the tank = 2hours less reserve = I couldn't go very far
-> Hey Ray, don't get me wrong I'm not on your case! Just jealious you actually
-> have the paperwork to do what just about everyone on amphibs is doing
-> anyhow!! Most Rebels are approaching or over 1200lbs empty on amphibs. Then
-> add 2 x 200lb pilots, full fuel of 44gal = 264lb and that alone is 1864lb
-> before you strap on the portaboat and 2 weeks provisions in the back!
->
-> Just curious why your TC guy was willing to ignore their own rules and
-> pointing out that any design safety margin is gone when operating at these
-> weights.
->
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <
oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
-> To: <
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:57 PM
-> Subject: Re: #1 reason to have amphibs ?
->
->
-> > Rethunk that again and that should be safe design load at 1650lb of 4.0
-> g's
-> > reduced to 3.3 g's at 2000lb. Still not reduce to 2g's, but I hope there's
-> > no turbulence in B.C.
-> >
-> >
-> > Wayne
-> >
-> > ----- Original Message -----
-> > From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <
oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
-> > To: <
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:09 PM
-> > Subject: Re: #1 reason to have amphibs ?
-> >
-> >
-> > > Yes Ray, I'd like to hear more about your TWO THOUSAND lb approved gross
-> > > weight and the climb test report that was submitted to Transport Canada
-> to
-> > > obtain it, as well as the TC inspectors name that put it through, since
-> > you
-> > > didn't change the aircraft model to a "Raymond Special" during the
-> > original
-> > > build in 1994... to remove you (and TC) from being bound to the kit
-> design
-> > > specs.
-> > >
-> > > In reality you have changed the ultimate design failure load of the
-> > original
-> > > 1650lbs from 6g's to 4.95g's at your 2000 lbs and safe design load from
-> > 4.8
-> > > to 3.96.... so no where near the 2G "scare factor" you threw out (unless
-> > you
-> > > operate well beyond the weight that you have managed to get the
-> aircrafts
-> > > paperwork to allow).
-> > >
-> > > Cheers,
-> > > Wayne
-> > >
-> > > ----- Original Message -----
-> > > From: <
Legeorgen@aol.com>
-> > > To: <
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:49 PM
-> > > Subject: Re: #1 reason to have amphibs ?
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > > Ray,
-> > > >
-> > > > Glad your planes in good shape. To bad about your truck and the other
-> > > > aircraft. I wonder if the FAA cares if we tried to certify our planes
-> at
-> > > 2G? I don't
-> > > > think they would allow it if they new the factory only specified
-> 1732.5
-> > > lb. on
-> > > > floats.
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > > Bruce
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > >
-> >
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