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I am glad that I am nearing the end of my building (Elite) and not starting
or thinking about building
I also think it is a good idea (for Murphy} that Van's does not do high
wings (yet)
My Thoughts

Keith Oliver
kboliver@adelphia.net
Elite #654 TD
N654ME (reserved)
Farmingdale, Maine




-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:01 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebe/CD pictures l


Walter,

I was staying quiet so you could get other input, as I'm sure others have
some better ways. Meant absolutely no insult to Sean, but just couldn't let
"as per the manual" be input on this critical area.

The other thing that I have to advise people on is that you can't go by the
pictures supplied on MAM's CD's.

USE THEM A REFERENCE AND IF THEY DON'T MATCH THE INSTRUCTIONS IGNORE THEM.

Especially the float one where the manual tells you one thing and then all
the pictures are of Julius's floats going together in his shop, that have
VERY few factory supplied parts left in them making the pictures VERY
confusing for someone that is just trying to put together what MAM sent them
in the crate.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel

Yes, Wayne, I was expecting to hear from you on this
one, because I do remember the past discussions.
However, as mentioned there appears to be a few
different ways to beef up the area. Then what confuses
things further is to find the Elite controls manual on
the website still uses the original Rebel method with
the single channel and roof bracket.

So, if I'm going to do a fix, I'm just trying to find
out the best recommended method, manuals aside.

Thanks everyone for their input.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:15 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel


I've been staying quiet on this thread, as
we've been here before, but sorry
Sean the single ST-31 (.020) channel and
.032 bracket to the roof does not
"work just fine" for the torque tube hanger
bracket. You haven't looked too
hard....... if you haven't seen this area to
be a problem. I have fixed at
least 7 (possibly more) of these hanger
brackets, that buckle from leaving
aileron/flaperons without gust locks or even
just having a tail wind rip the
stick out of our hands.

At minimum this channel needs to be .032 and
not .020 and it's very easy to
add a layer of material to it by bending up
a channel to fit inside the
existing one if you are already built to
this stage or flying. Better now
than when you go to leave a distant flyin
and find things aren't where they
used to be on the cabin roof!

Cheers,
Wayne O'Shea

----- Original Message -----
From: <rebel@dcsol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel

If it helps clear up how to put the hanger

on the roof don't follow the

pictures on the CD that Murphy sends as

these are pic's from the
prototype.

If anyone has the misfortune of having a

very old Elite manual it shows
two

for and aft channels made of st-31. the

new book has the single st31 with

angle clips for and aft to tie it to the

bulheads and a .032 bracket that

ties it to the roof and it works just

fine. The control chapter is on

Murphy's web site for down load. Unless

you have a problem leave it per
the

book I have never seen a problem in this

area that would require a beef up

Sean White
Kitplane solutions Inc.

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