If it helps clear up how to put the hanger on the roof don't follow the
pictures on the CD that Murphy sends as these are pic's from the prototype.
If anyone has the misfortune of having a very old Elite manual it shows two
for and aft channels made of st-31. the new book has the single st31 with
angle clips for and aft to tie it to the bulheads and a .032 bracket that
ties it to the roof and it works just fine. The control chapter is on
Murphy's web site for down load. Unless you have a problem leave it per the
book I have never seen a problem in this area that would require a beef up
Sean White
Kitplane solutions Inc.
On 10/10/2003 4:07 AM,
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-> Picture SM545E5.BMP on the Murphy CD shows it sandwiched, but nothing about
-> this in the manual on the same CD. In fact, it rather looks like the
hanger
-> may be sanwiched between two ST-31s without any bracket
->
-> By the way, Walter, thanks for info on the seats. I think there may be
-> significant differences in design between the Elite and Rebel in this area.
-> For sure, the sills are totally different. somebody alluded to some
-> assymetry between the left and right sides, but both are identical on the
-> Elite, other than for the aieron pushrod, of course.
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Walter Klatt" <
walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
-> To: <
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:19 PM
-> Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
->
->
-> > Thanks, Roger, for the file with the new instructions
-> > for the Rebel. That's very interesting. They show the
-> > hanger sandwiched between 2 back to back channels as
-> > you described, but no bracket attached to the roof.
-> >
-> > Meanwhile the Elite instructions as below, still use
-> > the original Rebel method with one channel and a roof
-> > bracket which is what I currently have. I wonder if
-> > there are new instructions for the Elite somewhere,
-> > too.
-> >
-> > So which is the better way to go? Or as I said
-> > previously, I have seen it also done with 2 back to
-> > back roof ribs. Maybe I should keep my roof bracket,
-> > but just add a second channel.
-> >
-> > Walter
-> >
-> > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > > [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > >
rognal@dcsol.com
-> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:42 AM
-> > > To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> > > Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > Sorry Walter. My mistake. I was speaking
-> > > 'from memory' and obviously had my
-> > > facts confused. My Rebel uses two back to
-> > > back straight channels, separated
-> > > by the .125" hanger bracket, no roof
-> > > bracket, but calls for gussets and 'L'
-> > > brackets that tie each channel end to the
-> > > forward and aft bulkheads. I sent
-> > > you the file as requested.
-> > >
-> > > Roger Hoffman #687R
-> > > Eugene, OR USA!
-> > >
-> > > On 10/9/2003 8:33 AM,
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-> > > -> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:38:43 -0700
-> > > -> From: Walter Klatt <
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-> > > -> Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
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-> > > -> I just had a look at the Controls,
-> > > Chapter 15, Page 24,
-> > > -> Figure 15.8.12 of the Elite manual on
-> > > their website,
-> > > -> and could not see where they used 2 back to back
-> > > -> channels. What I looked at was the same as mine is
-> > > -> currently, with the hanger sandwiched between the
-> > > -> channel and the roof bracket. What am I
-> > > missing here?
-> > > ->
-> > > <
http://www.murphyair.com/SUPPORT/PDF%20Amend
-> > > /elite/CH1
-> > > -> 5%20Control%20Assembly.pdf>
-> > > ->
-> > > -> Walter
-> > > ->
-> > > -> > -----Original Message-----
-> > > -> > From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > > -> > [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > -> >
rognal@dcsol.com
-> > > -> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:24 PM
-> > > -> > To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> > > -> > Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof
-> > > Hanger on Rebel
-> > > -> >
-> > > -> >
-> > > -> > Walter,
-> > > -> >
-> > > -> > If you are interested I can email you the
-> > > -> > pertinent section from the manual
-> > > -> > on CD. It would be a WordPad document.
-> > > -> > Should also be able to open it in Word.
-> > > -> >
-> > > -> > You might also want to look at this section
-> > > -> > of the Elite builder's manual
-> > > -> > which is posted on MAM's website. It also
-> > > -> > uses back to back channels, no
-> > > -> > mention of gussets, and uses an additional
-> > > -> > bracket to tie into the roof. FYI.
-> > > -> >
-> > > -> > Roger Hoffman #687R
-> > > -> > Eugene, OR USA
-> > > -> >
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