Hi Walter
Why don't you just swap the whole engine for the one in your car!!!:)
Ray
On 7/8/2003 9:22 PM,
WALTER.KLATT@SHAW.CA wrote to MURPHY-REBEL:
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-> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:46:53 -0700
-> From: Walter Klatt <
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-> Subject: RE: The Saga Continues - Primer
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-> Thanks, Wayne. Had a look at another one tonight, too.
-> I took the primer apart, little balls, springs, and
-> all, and cleaned it with gas and air. It definitely had
-> a bunch of dirt in it, so I hope this was my problem.
-> Got everything back together and will try for a test
-> flight tomorrow night.
->
-> It seems that the fuel that goes into the primer from
-> my gascolator is not filtered, so that would explain
-> where the dirt came from. Not sure if all gascolators
-> work that way, but I got mine from MAM. I think it is
-> the same as sold by ACS.
->
-> Walter
->
-> > -----Original Message-----
-> > From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > Wayne G. O'Shea
-> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:48 PM
-> > To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> > Subject: Re: The Saga Continues - Primer
-> >
-> >
-> > Walter, just took a brand new Essex apart.
-> > Two O-rings on the plunger OD and
-> > a stem sticking out the bottom of the
-> > plunger with a ball bearing staked
-> > into the end of it. The stuff you have found
-> > is garbage from the fuel system
-> > (assuming it was a new primer when you
-> > installed) and may have been enough
-> > to keep that staked in ball from seating in
-> > the bottom. When you get it back
-> > together try sucking on the outlet with your
-> > mouth. It should flow air when
-> > the plunger is extended, but as soon as you
-> > get it into the retainer slot it
-> > should not. IF you can draw air through it
-> > when the plunger is in then it's
-> > worn at the seat and may or may not be salvagable.
-> >
-> > Wayne
-> >
-> > ----- Original Message -----
-> > From: "Walter Klatt" <
walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
-> > To: <
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:50 AM
-> > Subject: RE: The Saga Continues - Primer
-> >
-> >
-> > > Well, I checked out my carb and didn't find any
-> > > problems. Put it all back together and did
-> > some ground
-> > > run-ups, and everything worked good again.
-> > >
-> > > I then took my primer off to have a look. The two O
-> > > rings on the plunger seemed fine. When I
-> > looked into
-> > > the tube, though, I saw some crap at the
-> > back bottom,
-> > > what almost looked like the remnants of a
-> > gasket. So my
-> > > first question to ask, is there supposed
-> > to be a gasket
-> > > at the back that the plunger backs onto to seal the
-> > > end? I cleaned it out, but couldn't tell
-> > if it was just
-> > > plain dirt or not. Or maybe this was just
-> > a collection
-> > > point for dirt, that would then work
-> > itself into the
-> > > little hole where the male ball end goes
-> > into and not
-> > > sealing like it is supposed to, and thus
-> > allowing fuel
-> > > to get sucked by into the cylinders.
-> > >
-> > > The primer brand is Essex Engine Primer.
-> > >
-> > > Walter
-> > >
-> > > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > > From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > > > [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > > Walter Klatt
-> > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:04 PM
-> > > > To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> > > > Subject: RE: The Saga Continues
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > > Thanks to everyone again for all your
-> > advice. I still
-> > > > have a few things to check and will be
-> > working on it
-> > > > again tonight. I've got my carb off now, so
-> > > > will have a
-> > > > good look at the float and valve there,
-> > even though I
-> > > > really don't expect a problem with it.
-> > My best guess
-> > > > currently is the primer as Wayne
-> > describes, primarily
-> > > > because it matched the symptoms when I
-> > applied primer
-> > > > in flight. However, I don't like
-> > changing too many
-> > > > things at once without testing it, so
-> > may not get to
-> > > > the primer right away.
-> > > >
-> > > > Wayne, below you asked what altitude. It has now
-> > > > happened at any altitude from just above
-> > sea level to
-> > > > 5000.
-> > > >
-> > > > I will let you guys know what I find
-> > next. Thanks.
-> > > >
-> > > > Walter
-> > > >
-> > > > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > > > From:
mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > > > > [mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > > > Wayne G. O'Shea
-> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:26 AM
-> > > > > To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> > > > > Subject: Re: The Saga Continues
-> > > > >
-> > > > >
-> > > > > Walter start with the easy one, since you
-> > > > > are running rubber eating car gas,
-> > > > > and pull your primer assembly apart and
-> > > > > check the O-rings, or at least
-> > > > > borrow a vacuum pump ($60 item at CTC) from
-> > > > > a car mechanic and start sucking
-> > > > > on the outlet line to see if this is a
-> > > > > possiblity before disassembling.
-> > > > > Something has changed quickly on you and I
-> > > > > suspect your primer inards may be
-> > > > > kaput.
-> > > > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
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