I think Wayne covered the main reasons for the springs.
I do know that you want them fairly tight or you will
lose some rudder effectiveness in certain situations. I
found this out last year when turning up to a dock
against a fairly strong tide. They will flatten out
somewhat in a strong current.
On a side note, I just got back from a tour of the
Comox Air Force base out here. They flew us over on a
Buffalo from Vancouver, and got to see their latest
toys. They had some F18's there but wouldn't let us
near them today. Apparently they are armed and still in
a fairly high state of alert. Got a ride in an Aurora,
though, and they took us for a 200 foot altitude run
through Desolation Sound at 300 mph and doing up to 60
degree banks back and forth as they flew between the
mountains. I was in the cockpit for a good portion of
this time, and they sure impressed the hell out of me.
Again, this was at 200 feet off the water. However, I
found out afterwards they had it on altitude hold while
they were down there, but my respect was still up
there. The only disconcerting item for me is that this
is a popular float plane playground as well, and I sure
wouldn't want to meet up with them when they are
playing like that. They did say they also monitor 123.2
when they do that, but still...
Also, got a full tour and briefing of the Search And
Rescue operations, and have to say, it is very
comforting to know who will be looking for you if you
ever need help. Again, I was very impressed with these
guys and their equipment. However, they don't like it
when your ELT goes off on a hard landing or when you
are working in your hangar. Apparently 90% of ELT
alarms are false. There was one this morning while we
were there. An ELT went off in a hangar in Kamloops,
which is about 300 miles inland, and they launched a
full search operation before they pinpointed it.
Anyway, it was definitely a day to remember.
Walter
-----Original Message-----
From:
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[mailto:
mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:43 PM
To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Pictures worth a thousand words
Chris,
There are members on here with lots more
float experience than me that's for
sure. The spring is there for hitting stuff
I'm sure, but it is also for
making up for any periods of movement in the
system that may be a longer or
shorter route for the cables. If you didn't
have the springs I am sure that
when the water rudders pivot that in the
movement arc somewhere the distance
is increasing and decreasing a bit (although
a very small amount). You
wouldn't be able to rig the cables tight
without a spring to make sure this
wasn't an issue with over stressing things
when the distance changes.
If you move your air rudder full and still
have available water rudder
travel left, why not bolt a rudder bar to
the existing tail wheel steering
horn (on the bottom of the rudder) like you
see on most Pipers on floats, to
increase the cable movement in each
direction to the water rudders to make
use of everything you have available on the
back of those Pretty floats from
Keith!!
Wayne
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From: <
rebel@dcsol.com>
To: <
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: Pictures worth a thousand words
Wayne,
I was looking at your Rebel Float Install
photos and had a question pop
into
my head.
In your humble opinion, do you install
springs in line with the water
rudder
steering cables to minimize any impact
forces being transferred from the
water rudder cables to the attach point of
the rudder control horn on the
aircrafts rudder?
I've heard both sides of the story. Some
say the springs reduce the water
rudder effectivness, and others like the
springs for shock dissipation.
Right now I have springs in line on my
Montanna 3500's and I am trying to
determine if I am getting full throw on my
water rudders, or if the in
line
springs are decreasing the water rudder
effectivness.
Thanks for your thoughts (or anyone else's
with an opinion).
Chris Gill
SR#025 N4965
Anchorage, AK
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-> Good eyes Rick!
->
-> Don't worry that will all be fixed, as
well as the rest of the >LONG<
list,
-> before it's resold! There is enough
slack in the elevator cables that I
-> think I can cut the cable off and wrap
it around the bolt again with a
new
-> Nico!!
->
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: <
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-> To: <
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-> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:12 AM
-> Subject: Pictures worth a thousand words
->
->
-> > All,
-> > Everybody, thanks for all of
those pictures.
-> > On the picture with the additional
bolts on the rebel stab attach
bracket,
-> also
-> > notice that the nico sleeves have
only 2 of the required three
crimps.
-> That
-> > picture really gives meaning to that
experimental warning label that
you
-> are
-> > required to place on the a/c for all to read.
-> > Good luck you'll need it,
-> > Rick D.
-> > Rebel S/N 404R
-> > (gave up predicting when it will fly)
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
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