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Rebuilding a damaged Rebel

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:53 pm
by Mike Davis
I bought a flying (under part 103) Quicksilver MX, disassembled it, then
reassembled it keeping an appropriate builders log showing that I met the
51% requirement, and registered it as an experimental. It was really quite
easy once I found all the correct paper work for the FAA. The key to this
approach was on the registration application, the aircraft was not built
from a kit... it was built from assorted parts and pieces. All "kits" must
be accompanied by the bill of sale from the kit manufacturer... if you build
from parts and pieces, you only need your builders log and photos... no
purchase records are required.

So, if you can meet the 51% requirement with your rebuild, then you can
apply for a new airworthiness certificate based on "amatuer built from
assorted parts and pieces", and get the associated repairman's certificate.
Of course, you'll first have to surrender the existing airworthiness
certificate. From the information I saw on the web site you gave, I think
you could do it.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott & Leere' Aldrich" <flynski@mwutah.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: Rebuilding a damaged Rebel

You can do the rebuild as it was registered as Experimental. FAR 43 about
who can do alteration, rebuilds etc. does not apply to experimental
registered aircraft(See applicability - 43.1b). Anyone can do anything to
an
experimental, but only the repairman certificate holder or an AP can do
the
condition inspection.

I know guys take certified aircraft (Piper PA-22s) and turn them into
experimental(V6-STOL) and get builder repairman certificates. They making
enough changes to get it by the 50% rule. Then make up a Serial Number and
go through all the homebuilt paper chase. It doesn't work to just
"restore"
one though so I would think you would not be able to get the builder
repairman certificate for the wrecked Rebel.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Keith Leitch
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:06 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Rebuilding a damaged Rebel


I have just started building my Rebel. Have started the Flapperons. Due to
my wife being in the Army it has taken me a while to get going on this
project. Well guess what? I just bought another one. I got it on a salvage
sale.
The question I have is: What is the rule on rebuilding this plane? Can I
rebuild it and be able to due subsequint annuals or would I need an A&P to
do it.
The Plane can be viewed on www.aviation-salvage.com.
The wings will need some repair as will most of the tail. The cabin area
is
also quite bent up. Nothing FWF was hurt other than the warp drive prop.
Since I have a complete kit sitting right here in my garage I have all the
parts available for the rebuild. This would allow me to get in the air
quicker. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith Leitch R661

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Rebuilding a damaged Rebel

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:53 pm
by Keith Leitch
I have just started building my Rebel. Have started the Flapperons. Due to
my wife being in the Army it has taken me a while to get going on this
project. Well guess what? I just bought another one. I got it on a salvage
sale.
The question I have is: What is the rule on rebuilding this plane? Can I
rebuild it and be able to due subsequint annuals or would I need an A&P to
do it.
The Plane can be viewed on www.aviation-salvage.com.
The wings will need some repair as will most of the tail. The cabin area is
also quite bent up. Nothing FWF was hurt other than the warp drive prop.
Since I have a complete kit sitting right here in my garage I have all the
parts available for the rebuild. This would allow me to get in the air
quicker. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith Leitch R661

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Rebuilding a damaged Rebel

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:53 pm
by Scott & Leere' Aldrich
You can do the rebuild as it was registered as Experimental. FAR 43 about
who can do alteration, rebuilds etc. does not apply to experimental
registered aircraft(See applicability - 43.1b). Anyone can do anything to an
experimental, but only the repairman certificate holder or an AP can do the
condition inspection.

I know guys take certified aircraft (Piper PA-22s) and turn them into
experimental(V6-STOL) and get builder repairman certificates. They making
enough changes to get it by the 50% rule. Then make up a Serial Number and
go through all the homebuilt paper chase. It doesn't work to just "restore"
one though so I would think you would not be able to get the builder
repairman certificate for the wrecked Rebel.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Keith Leitch
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:06 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Rebuilding a damaged Rebel


I have just started building my Rebel. Have started the Flapperons. Due to
my wife being in the Army it has taken me a while to get going on this
project. Well guess what? I just bought another one. I got it on a salvage
sale.
The question I have is: What is the rule on rebuilding this plane? Can I
rebuild it and be able to due subsequint annuals or would I need an A&P to
do it.
The Plane can be viewed on www.aviation-salvage.com.
The wings will need some repair as will most of the tail. The cabin area is
also quite bent up. Nothing FWF was hurt other than the warp drive prop.
Since I have a complete kit sitting right here in my garage I have all the
parts available for the rebuild. This would allow me to get in the air
quicker. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith Leitch R661

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Rebuilding a damaged Rebel

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:53 pm
by Jims170A
In a message dated 3/23/2003 5:09:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
im_planecrazy@hotmail.com writes:
The question I have is: What is the rule on rebuilding this plane? Can I
rebuild it and be able to due subsequint annuals or would I need an A&P to
do it.
Hi Keith
You will need an A&P to do the rebuild and the yearly condition inspections
as it was a finished airplane.
So think of it as a parts plane for s/n R661.
When you license s/n R661 (with a few parts off the parts plane (s/n146)) you
are then the primary builder and can get the repairman certificate (see FAR
65.104). The Repairman certificate is only good for the aircraft sn you built
(R661).
good luck
Jim



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