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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:49 pm**

It's not as windy in Fairbanks, but it is windy. I started to back out of
the driveway yesterday to go to work (nights) and I remembered that I had
set my elevator and horizontal stabilizer outside earlier to reposition my
fuselage to begin mounting the wings. I sure am glad I stopped and put them
back in the shop. The way I had them sitting on the ground there was a good
chance the wind would have grabbed them and wrapped them around a tree.
Good news - Chris Gill's Super Rebel is fine. He checked on it a couple of
times through the night. Apparently, a stove pipe from a nearby building
just missed his plane. Even if you tie down your plane with 3/16 steel
cable it doesn't mean something else won't bash into you!

Mike Kimball
SR #044

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:31 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

IF you've got a strong stomach you can view a bit of the carnage at the
following link

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_al ... me=album12

Regards,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:43 PM
Subject: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

If you think GA tie down insurance was expensive already, wait until the
damage claims are done being added up in Alaska. A gail went through there
last night and apparently 10 to 15% of the aircraft are destroyed or

severly

damaged at
Lake Hood, and Merrill and Birchwood Fields.

;o((
Wayne

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:49 pm**

Absolutely turns my stomach. Hope no one was hurt.

Bill

IF you've got a strong stomach you can view a bit of the carnage at the
following link

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_al ... me=album12

Regards,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:43 PM
Subject: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

If you think GA tie down insurance was expensive already, wait until the
damage claims are done being added up in Alaska. A gail went through

there

last night and apparently 10 to 15% of the aircraft are destroyed or
severly
damaged at
Lake Hood, and Merrill and Birchwood Fields.

;o((
Wayne

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:49 pm**

If you think GA tie down insurance was expensive already, wait until the
damage claims are done being added up in Alaska. A gail went through there
last night and apparently 10 to 15% of the aircraft are destroyed or severly
damaged at
Lake Hood, and Merrill and Birchwood Fields.

;o((
Wayne

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:52 pm**

IF you've got a strong stomach you can view a bit of the carnage at the
following link

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_al ... me=album12

Regards,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:43 PM
Subject: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

If you think GA tie down insurance was expensive already, wait until the
damage claims are done being added up in Alaska. A gail went through there
last night and apparently 10 to 15% of the aircraft are destroyed or

severly

damaged at
Lake Hood, and Merrill and Birchwood Fields.

;o((
Wayne

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:52 pm**

There are also more photos at :

<http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_al ... me=album13>

Pretty sad. Bet the guys who were tied down and not blown are a bit
upset by being damaged anyway.

I would be.

I see a plane here at our airport that has a bunch of junk piled on
top of the wings just so that there is not much lift component in
heavy air.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:30:55 -0500, you wrote:

IF you've got a strong stomach you can view a bit of the carnage at the
following link

http://www.supercub.org/gallery/view_al ... me=album12

Regards,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:43 PM
Subject: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

If you think GA tie down insurance was expensive already, wait until

the

damage claims are done being added up in Alaska. A gail went through

there

last night and apparently 10 to 15% of the aircraft are destroyed or
severly
damaged at
Lake Hood, and Merrill and Birchwood Fields.

;o((
Wayne

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:52 pm**

Brian, if that's his plan then he is asking for trouble and just adding to
the misery if he gets a wind from the direction these guys did. Most had the
wings folded DOWN from a tail wind and the struts collapsed from the
negative "flight" load. His plan is a good one in theory for a head wind,
but god forbid if he gets a 100MPH from the tail!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lawson" <lawsonb@mnsi.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

I see a plane here at our airport that has a bunch of junk piled on
top of the wings just so that there is not much lift component in
heavy air.

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:52 pm**

Hey Wayne,

Yes, that makes good sense. Probably why "I" didn't think of it!
Just a damn shame there isn't much you could do, is there?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Windsor, Ontario.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:50:17 -0500, you wrote:

Brian, if that's his plan then he is asking for trouble and just adding

to

the misery if he gets a wind from the direction these guys did. Most had

the

wings folded DOWN from a tail wind and the struts collapsed from the
negative "flight" load. His plan is a good one in theory for a head

wind,

but god forbid if he gets a 100MPH from the tail!

Wayne

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From: "Brian Lawson" <lawsonb@mnsi.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

I see a plane here at our airport that has a bunch of junk piled on
top of the wings just so that there is not much lift component in
heavy air.

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:52 pm**

One guy had a really good suggestion that he/the military uses for just such
an emergency and this is to put an anchor right below the cabane of the
landing gear. If you tie down tightly here the wing ropes don't get yanked
to their ends as hard to bust spars and the really important thing is you
can leave the cabane tied, undo the wings and rotate the aircraft 180* to
point her into the wind and retie the wings before they get collapsed (if of
course you get to the airport in time!). Someone else also said it best when
you see the 185 on floats sitting upside down on a Heli-courier. "$3 worth
of rope to protect a $300,000 airplane and its departure from it's ropes
wrecked the $500,000 airplane next to it". Mind you even guys with steel
cable for tie downs didn't survive either, as soon as the wings collapsed
from the rear.

This happened at Oshkosh one year as well when the "T'd" together aircraft
got flipped straight over on their backs and of course took out two more
aircraft each when they did so!

Wayne

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From: "Brian Lawson" <lawsonb@mnsi.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

Hey Wayne,

Yes, that makes good sense. Probably why "I" didn't think of it!
Just a damn shame there isn't much you could do, is there?

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Windsor, Ontario.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:50:17 -0500, you wrote:

Brian, if that's his plan then he is asking for trouble and just adding
to
the misery if he gets a wind from the direction these guys did. Most had
the
wings folded DOWN from a tail wind and the struts collapsed from the
negative "flight" load. His plan is a good one in theory for a head
wind,
but god forbid if he gets a 100MPH from the tail!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lawson" <lawsonb@mnsi.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Horror in Alaska = insurance premiums

I see a plane here at our airport that has a bunch of junk piled on
top of the wings just so that there is not much lift component in
heavy air.

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Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:52 pm**

Hey Mike,

I know you're up that way, so I'll ask. (Of course, Los Angeles is on
the same coast, isn't it!) Anyway, there is a "Teal" nearing the
"needs an engine" stage in our EAA chapter, and he is starting to look
for a Lycoming engine. Would be better if I knew "what" he wants, but
I suppose there are options. Do you have any contacts with anyone
like an insurer or adjuster who might know if any of these recently
badly damaged/ totaled aircraft will be for sale for salvage? If
yourself, or anyone else does know, could you send me an off-list
post?

I'll be telling him of the engines that Wayne O has, but I got the
feeling from his earlier posts that Wayne would prefer these go to
Rebel builders. Not sure now what they were either.

Thank you.

Brian Lawson,
Windsor, Ontario.

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