The Murphy Builders Site

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:42 pm**

Wow, that sounds like an incredible trip you have planned. I always wanted
to fly to Perth but I was worried about finding fuel on the long part from
the Spencer Gulf to Perth. My 60 mph Renegade Spirit with 10 gallons of
fuel made it from Ballina to Woomera (where I lived) and back (when I sold
it to someone up there), along with trips to Mangalore (Aussie OSHKOSH for
us yanks) a couple of times but if it weren't for Jerry cans in the front
seat and friendly people at sheep stations along the way where I could
collect some fuel, the trip couldn't be done. If I remember right isn't the
desert along the way called something that means "one tree", emphasizing the
lack of vegetation taller than a few centimeters? I've heard that pilots
just land on the road and taxi up to regular automobile petrol stations for
fuel. Is that what you have planned?

Mike Kimball
SR #044

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Rick Harper
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:12 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel bungee gear

G'day Bob !

Can you give me contact details for Gordon Mohr ?!? ... I have die
springs on Rebel 541R .... and the ride / landings are GREAT - Soft &
Smooth ...But, obviously the gear "works" up & down a fair bit .... I've
toyed with the idea of making my own bushes ,... but if Gordon's are
tried & proven, I'll drop him a line.

PS Done nearly 200 hrs (and about 500 landings) in 18 months so far ...
and the next 4 months will see another 50 to 70 hours on the VDO ! and
all looks good so far :-)

Flying from Sydney to Perth & back in late April (same distance as coast
to coast in Canada or the US )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel bungee gear

Hi Ian !

I recall Darryl Murphy saying that the bungee gear is only
supposed to move to prevent structural damage to the fuselage. The
tires are the main shock absorbers - that's why I like the fat DICO
or CARLYLE tires so much !! :-) These are available from Murphy,
at about half the cost of the skinnier 'aircraft' tires, and are
well suited to a 912 Rebel !

Do not slacken them up so the gear moves when taxying - if
the gear moves a lot, you will wear through the tops of the gear
legs very quickly. Gord Mohr makes a beautiful set of fitting to
go into the tops of the gear legs, with brass bushings inserted,
to prevent this wear - and they are essential if you go to a
die-spring setup to replace the bungees. The die-spring gear (IF the
springs are carefully selected for rate & load) will give you
THE best ride in a Rebel. The Cessna-style spring gear tends to
"waddle", but the die spring gear just gives a great, smooth ride -
but everything is moving all the time, so lubrication & bushings
are essential.

Best suggestion for now - use the fat tires, and lower the
air pressure a bit (they work great at 12-14 lb.)......

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------------
At 11:38 PM 1/14/03 +1100, you wrote:

G'day

I have a Rebel with a 100hp Rotax, and it is fitted with the

standard

bungee gear.

Well not really standard as I have fitted 8 of the 9044 factory made

bungee

rings.

Now my problem is that it appears that the legs do not move at all.

No

matter how I load the plane, or in fact jump around inside, the legs

just

don't move.

What experience do others have? How many rings is enough? Should the

legs

move while taxying?

I look forward to hearing your responses.

Regards

Ian Donaldson

PS the temperature here where I live in Australia is currently 37o.

That's

centigrade!

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------

--*

To unsubscribe from this list go to:
http://www.dcsol.com:81/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx
Archives located at

http://rebel:builder@www.dcsol.com:81/default.htm

To contact the list admin, e-mail mike.davis@dcsol.com

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------

--*

*------------------------------------------------------------------------
-*
To unsubscribe from this list go to:
http://www.dcsol.com:81/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx
Archives located at http://rebel:builder@www.dcsol.com:81/default.htm
To contact the list admin, e-mail mike.davis@dcsol.com

*------------------------------------------------------------------------
-*

*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*
To unsubscribe from this list go to:
http://www.dcsol.com:81/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx
Archives located at http://rebel:builder@www.dcsol.com:81/default.htm
To contact the list admin, e-mail mike.davis@dcsol.com
*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:43 pm**

G'day Mike !
Subject: Sydney to Perth and back!

Wow, that sounds like an incredible trip you have planned. I always
wanted
to fly to Perth but I was worried about finding fuel on the long part
from
the Spencer Gulf to Perth. My 60 mph Renegade Spirit with 10 gallons
of
fuel made it from Ballina to Woomera (where I lived) and back (when I
sold
it to someone up there), along with trips to Mangalore (Aussie OSHKOSH
for
us yanks) a couple of times but if it weren't for Jerry cans in the
front
seat and friendly people at sheep stations along the way where I could
collect some fuel, the trip couldn't be done.

To tell you the truth ... I haven't started researching fuel
availability yet .... but the Rebel holds 230 lts (about 57 US gallons )
and at "el cheapo" fuel settings I can get her to cruise at 18 lts an
hour at 95ish Knots .... so I reckon we'd make a pretty big jump between
fillups !

If I remember right isn't the
desert along the way called something that means "one tree",
emphasizing the
lack of vegetation taller than a few centimeters?

Absolutely ! we took the Indian Pacific train over 4 years ago to
attend the last Langley Park Fly - In ... rented a 172 .... you'd look
out the window at a blistering heat haze that just dissapeared into the
shimmer , covered mostly in spinifex gras, with nothing bigger than a
SMALL "tree" (about 3 feet tall) every sqaure mile or so ... you'd look
out the window 2 hours later (the train is doing 60 -70 miles an hour)
and the scene was like someone had taken a photo from 2 hours back and
was holding it in front of the window ... then 2 hours later it still
looked the same again etc, etc ... definitely don't want to have to land
anywhere out there !

I've heard that pilots
just land on the road and taxi up to regular automobile petrol
stations for
fuel. Is that what you have planned?

That's true ... when we did the Ayers Rock trip 6 months ago , there
were several Gas stations that had a strip out the back and avgas
available .... we can't use mogas as we are running the 9.7:1
compression pistons.
I have heard of many people doing just what you said though !

I'll tell you guys all about it when we get back (which will be early
May) from Perth

Mike Kimball
SR #044

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Rick Harper
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:12 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Rebel bungee gear

G'day Bob !

Can you give me contact details for Gordon Mohr ?!? ... I have die
springs on Rebel 541R .... and the ride / landings are GREAT - Soft &
Smooth ...But, obviously the gear "works" up & down a fair bit ....
I've
toyed with the idea of making my own bushes ,... but if Gordon's are
tried & proven, I'll drop him a line.

PS Done nearly 200 hrs (and about 500 landings) in 18 months so far
...
and the next 4 months will see another 50 to 70 hours on the VDO ! and
all looks good so far :-)

Flying from Sydney to Perth & back in late April (same distance as
coast
to coast in Canada or the US )

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Patterson
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel bungee gear

Hi Ian !

I recall Darryl Murphy saying that the bungee gear is only
supposed to move to prevent structural damage to the fuselage. The
tires are the main shock absorbers - that's why I like the fat DICO
or CARLYLE tires so much !! :-) These are available from Murphy,
at about half the cost of the skinnier 'aircraft' tires, and are
well suited to a 912 Rebel !

Do not slacken them up so the gear moves when taxying - if
the gear moves a lot, you will wear through the tops of the gear
legs very quickly. Gord Mohr makes a beautiful set of fitting to
go into the tops of the gear legs, with brass bushings inserted,
to prevent this wear - and they are essential if you go to a
die-spring setup to replace the bungees. The die-spring gear (IF the
springs are carefully selected for rate & load) will give you
THE best ride in a Rebel. The Cessna-style spring gear tends to
"waddle", but the die spring gear just gives a great, smooth ride -
but everything is moving all the time, so lubrication & bushings
are essential.

Best suggestion for now - use the fat tires, and lower the
air pressure a bit (they work great at 12-14 lb.)......

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------------
At 11:38 PM 1/14/03 +1100, you wrote:

G'day

I have a Rebel with a 100hp Rotax, and it is fitted with the

standard

bungee gear.

Well not really standard as I have fitted 8 of the 9044 factory

made
bungee

rings.

Now my problem is that it appears that the legs do not move at all.

No

matter how I load the plane, or in fact jump around inside, the

legs
just

don't move.

What experience do others have? How many rings is enough? Should

the
legs

move while taxying?

I look forward to hearing your responses.

Regards

Ian Donaldson

PS the temperature here where I live in Australia is currently 37o.

That's

centigrade!

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------

--*

To unsubscribe from this list go to:
http://www.dcsol.com:81/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx
Archives located at

http://rebel:builder@www.dcsol.com:81/default.htm

To contact the list admin, e-mail mike.davis@dcsol.com

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------

--*

*------------------------------------------------------------------------

-*
To unsubscribe from this list go to:
http://www.dcsol.com:81/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx
Archives located at
http://rebel:builder@www.dcsol.com:81/default.htm
To contact the list admin, e-mail mike.davis@dcsol.com

*------------------------------------------------------------------------

-*

*------------------------------------------------------------------------
-*
To unsubscribe from this list go to:
http://www.dcsol.com:81/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx
Archives located at http://rebel:builder@www.dcsol.com:81/default.htm
To contact the list admin, e-mail mike.davis@dcsol.com

*------------------------------------------------------------------------
-*

*------------------------------------------------------------------------
-*
To unsubscribe from this list go to:
http://www.dcsol.com:81/public/code/html-subscribe.wcx
Archives located at http://rebel:builder@www.dcsol.com:81/default.htm
To contact the list admin, e-mail mike.davis@dcsol.com

*------------------------------------------------------------------------
-*

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:43 pm**

G'day Mike

" If I remember right isn't the desert along the way called something that
means "one tree", emphasizing the
lack of vegetation taller than a few centimeters "

The local name for the stretch of desert is the "Nullabour plain"

Some think that it is a derivation of the french "Nil arbour' which
apparently
means no trees. It is a proper name for it!

Regards

Ian

-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------