Hi Steve !
You're right - you have to figure out what use you are going
to put the airplane through !
I had no problems with handling with the small standard tailwheel
on pavement or grass strips - in fact, the grass was better, as the
only problem I saw was that the tire wore very quickly with heavy loads,
on pavement. (Seemed like about half the tread was gone over one
summer...) The modified Elite nosewheel on the prototype seems
to be a good solution for most flying - just remember to carry a
spare tube, as they can be hard to find.
As for cracks and doublers on the prototype, these may not
be significant. Remember, this airplane has had 2 completely different
engine setups, a major airframe upgrade, and several years of pretty
hard flying ! (And some damage occured BEFORE it flew, being trucked
to display at airshows ...) The benefits of all that R & D flying
are being passed on to builders already.
.....bobp
---------------------------------orig.-----------------------------------
At 07:20 AM 12/2/02 -0900, you wrote:
I had a 14" XP tailwheel on my 185 which was one of the first ones XP made
in the late 80's. It is a great tailwheel for the 185 but only with 29"
tires as it otherwise inhibits the angle of attack on the ground. It also
keeps the stab off the ground more and out of the rocks thrown by the main
wheels. Downfalls are it is heavy, takes a lot of brake to get the tail to
swing, and shimmies on pavement without a tailwheel lock - so swing the tail
by hand when necessary and hold the tail up when landing on pavement.
The Moose stab is plenty high off the ground but the tailcone is weak - no
doubt. The demo had cracks in the attachment bulkhead and doublers were
added. I am saving that area to see what MAM comes up with but have plans if
they do not.
They have a Elite nosewheel on the tail of the demo I believe.
The stock little tailwheel is probably fine for airport only but you should
then stick with small main tires also.
Daryl told me he would like a fatter tailwheel than the Elite setup rather
than taller - I agree and hope he makes one as it is easy for them to do.
The Gar-Aero tailwheel is a double wide fat tire Scott 3400 but has its
drawbacks as well.
I guess it depends what you plan to use the plane for.
Steve Rhodes
#173 FB
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Delcambre
To:
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 05:52
Subject: Moose Tailwheel
Hi fellas! Hope all, who celebrate such, had a great Thanksgiving.
I'm about to attach my tailwheel assy. and recall that there have been
some issues with the MAM unit. Am I remembering correctly that the demo
plane is not using the tailwheel that came with our kits? Does anyone know
the nature of the problems? I've been looking at the XP Mods tailwheels. (
http://www.xpmods.com/compare.htm ) It occurs to me that those units look
real rugged and would make a heck of a statement on a Moose. Anyone out
there have experience with this tailwheel?
I hate to start making mods, before the darned thing is built, but I'd
rather make a change before there is damage to repair. My Moose will likely
never see Alaska style environment, in terms of rough field use, but not all
my landings are perfect (don't say it, Jason..) and I'd like to be confident
in the equipment. If I'm wrong about percieved troubles, I'll be even happier.
Thanks in advance for any light on this subject.
Bill Delcambre
#172 FB
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had a 14" XP tailwheel on my 185 which was
one of
the first ones XP made in the late 80's. It is a great tailwheel for the
185 but
only with 29" tires as it otherwise inhibits the angle of attack on the
ground.
It also keeps the stab off the ground more and out of the rocks thrown by the
main wheels. Downfalls are it is heavy, takes a lot of brake to get the
tail to
swing, and shimmies on pavement without a tailwheel lock - so swing the
tail by
hand when necessary and hold the tail up when landing on pavement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Moose stab is plenty high off the ground but
the tailcone is weak - no doubt. The demo had cracks in the attachment
bulkhead
and doublers were added. I am saving that area to see what MAM comes up
with but
have plans if they do not. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>They have a Elite nosewheel on the tail of the
demo
I believe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The stock little tailwheel is probably fine for
airport only but you should then stick with small main tires also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Daryl told me he would like a fatter tailwheel
than
the Elite setup rather than taller - I agree and hope he makes one as it is
easy
for them to do. The Gar-Aero tailwheel is a double wide fat tire Scott 3400
but
has its drawbacks as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess it depends what you plan to use the plane
for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Rhodes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>#173 FB</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=
bdelcambre@cox-internet.com
href="mailto:
bdelcambre@cox-internet.com">Bill Delcambre</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=
murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
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murphy-rebel@dcsol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 29, 2002
05:52</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Moose Tailwheel</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi fellas! Hope all, who celebrate such,
had a great Thanksgiving.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm about to attach my tailwheel assy. and
recall
that there have been some issues with the MAM unit. Am I remembering
correctly that the demo plane is not using the tailwheel that came with our
kits? Does anyone know the nature of the problems? I've been
looking at the XP Mods tailwheels. ( <A
href="
http://www.xpmods.com/compare.htm">http ... ompare.htm</
A>
) It occurs to me that those units look real rugged and would make a
heck of a statement on a Moose. Anyone out there have experience with
this tailwheel? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hate to start making mods, before the darned
thing is built, but I'd rather make a change before there is damage to
repair. My Moose will likely never see Alaska style environment, in
terms of rough field use, but not all my landings are perfect (don't say it,
Jason..) and I'd like to be confident in the equipment. If I'm
wrong about percieved troubles, I'll be even happier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in advance for any light on this
subject.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Delcambre</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>#172 FB</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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