Opinions - Seats, aileron spades
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:13 pm
Hey folks,
I need your opinions - FAST. I've got a couple of days to make a decision
about some stuff I want to order from MAM so I can slip my parts into Mike
Davis' crate coming up in July.
I was going to get seat covers for the front and material for the bench back
seat, but after calling Chris Gill to ask how much material he used for the
bench seat he told me I should reconsider the bench. He says it's too far
forward and leaves little leg room for the passengers. He admits being 6'4"
doesn't help. He also says that there's little space between the top of the
bench and the roof and retrieving stuff from the cargo area in flight is
difficult. He says that if he had it to do over he would get those little
seats they make for the C-185 that fold up against the side or get buckets
for the back. Does anyone know if the back buckets can be positioned
farther back than the bench? Other opinions about the bench versus the
buckets?
Chris also noted that when landing in strong crosswinds he asks the front
passenger to slide their seat back to get their legs out of the way of the
stick. Apparently, full throw on the stick didn't take into account the
presence of legs. The pilot's legs are still a problem but at least he's
ready for it. Chris is thinking of doing the aileron spade mod to help. It
seems to me that the mod lightens the stick pressure but still wouldn't help
get more aileron with less stick throw. Anyone thought about shortening the
control horns somewhere in the aileron system to get more aileron deflection
with the same amount of stick throw? Add the aileron spade mod to make up
for the increased stick force with the shorter control horn? Not big
changes. Just hook on to the aileron horns on the roof a bit closer to the
pivot point. Same with the control horns that stick out through the
fuselage cabin ribs. Just hook on a bit closer to the pivot point.
If I decide to hook everything up as originally designed, what's your
opinion about the necessity of the aileron spade mod? My guess is that it's
fine without the mod, and maybe MAM is just tweaking to try and get a better
balance between pitch and roll forces on the stick.
Lastly, I'm sad to report that Rob Merdes was crawling into his tailcone
with the fuselage on its gear to install cable fairleads and pulleys, and a
bit of a bounce trying to get back out caused the tailcone to buckle. Not
sure exactly where it buckled, but apparently 180 pounds clear back between
bulkhead D and F is not a good idea. Having the top, rearmost corner wraps
and rear, upper wrap just ahead of the fin removed probably didn't help
matters. He's got parts on order but he's put his project on hold for a bit
while he contemplates the cruelty of the homebuilding god.
Mike Kimball
SR #044
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I need your opinions - FAST. I've got a couple of days to make a decision
about some stuff I want to order from MAM so I can slip my parts into Mike
Davis' crate coming up in July.
I was going to get seat covers for the front and material for the bench back
seat, but after calling Chris Gill to ask how much material he used for the
bench seat he told me I should reconsider the bench. He says it's too far
forward and leaves little leg room for the passengers. He admits being 6'4"
doesn't help. He also says that there's little space between the top of the
bench and the roof and retrieving stuff from the cargo area in flight is
difficult. He says that if he had it to do over he would get those little
seats they make for the C-185 that fold up against the side or get buckets
for the back. Does anyone know if the back buckets can be positioned
farther back than the bench? Other opinions about the bench versus the
buckets?
Chris also noted that when landing in strong crosswinds he asks the front
passenger to slide their seat back to get their legs out of the way of the
stick. Apparently, full throw on the stick didn't take into account the
presence of legs. The pilot's legs are still a problem but at least he's
ready for it. Chris is thinking of doing the aileron spade mod to help. It
seems to me that the mod lightens the stick pressure but still wouldn't help
get more aileron with less stick throw. Anyone thought about shortening the
control horns somewhere in the aileron system to get more aileron deflection
with the same amount of stick throw? Add the aileron spade mod to make up
for the increased stick force with the shorter control horn? Not big
changes. Just hook on to the aileron horns on the roof a bit closer to the
pivot point. Same with the control horns that stick out through the
fuselage cabin ribs. Just hook on a bit closer to the pivot point.
If I decide to hook everything up as originally designed, what's your
opinion about the necessity of the aileron spade mod? My guess is that it's
fine without the mod, and maybe MAM is just tweaking to try and get a better
balance between pitch and roll forces on the stick.
Lastly, I'm sad to report that Rob Merdes was crawling into his tailcone
with the fuselage on its gear to install cable fairleads and pulleys, and a
bit of a bounce trying to get back out caused the tailcone to buckle. Not
sure exactly where it buckled, but apparently 180 pounds clear back between
bulkhead D and F is not a good idea. Having the top, rearmost corner wraps
and rear, upper wrap just ahead of the fin removed probably didn't help
matters. He's got parts on order but he's put his project on hold for a bit
while he contemplates the cruelty of the homebuilding god.
Mike Kimball
SR #044
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