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To make it easier for everyone to post and view photos, I've setup anonymous
FTP access that will allow anyone to post photos were everyone can see them.
Since this is web access I would ask that you only post .JPG or .GIF files,
this will allow easy viewing right in your web browser. To view photos, jut
go to ftp://ftp.dcsol.com with your web browser. To place photos on this
site you will need to use an FTP client. Windows 95 and above have command
line FTP built in, but if you are not familiar with this I would recommend a
GUI based client. I have placed a shareware client called FTP Voyager at
the root level of this FTP site that all may download freely.

Mike




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Mike I down loaded ftpv6004.zip but when I unzip it I get CRC errors on the
exe
file. When I try to run the exe it gets an exception and hangs my system
(BRS
time). Any thoughts? I can get to the site using my current FTP program
CuteFTP
but that doesn't help anyone else. For anyone who's not up to the challenge
I'll be glad to put your pictures on my web site as in the past. ...Wray

Mike Davis wrote:

To make it easier for everyone to post and view photos, I've setup

anonymous

FTP access that will allow anyone to post photos were everyone can see

them.

Since this is web access I would ask that you only post .JPG or .GIF

files,

this will allow easy viewing right in your web browser. To view photos,

jut

go to ftp://ftp.dcsol.com with your web browser. To place photos on this
site you will need to use an FTP client. Windows 95 and above have

command

line FTP built in, but if you are not familiar with this I would recommend

a

GUI based client. I have placed a shareware client called FTP Voyager at
the root level of this FTP site that all may download freely.

Mike

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Just attaching pictures to the email is probably easiest for non computer
nerd types who just want to build an airplane. Perhaps Wray or Mike or ???
could later copy the pictures to a ftp site just to have them in one place.
I think that is sort of what is happening now. The pictures are great. The
easier it is to send them, perhaps the more we will get.
- Chuck Skorupa -
Rebel Elite S/N 500

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Mike I down loaded ftpv6004.zip but when I unzip it I get CRC errors on

the exe

file. When I try to run the exe it gets an exception and hangs my system

(BRS

time). Any thoughts? I can get to the site using my current FTP program

CuteFTP

but that doesn't help anyone else. For anyone who's not up to the

challenge

I'll be glad to put your pictures on my web site as in the past.

...Wray

Mike Davis wrote:

To make it easier for everyone to post and view photos, I've setup

anonymous

FTP access that will allow anyone to post photos were everyone can see

them.

Since this is web access I would ask that you only post .JPG or .GIF

files,

this will allow easy viewing right in your web browser. To view

photos, jut

go to ftp://ftp.dcsol.com with your web browser. To place photos on

this

site you will need to use an FTP client. Windows 95 and above have

command

line FTP built in, but if you are not familiar with this I would

recommend a

GUI based client. I have placed a shareware client called FTP Voyager

at

the root level of this FTP site that all may download freely.

Mike

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From: Mike Davis <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 7:21 AM
Subject: Rebel photo access

To make it easier for everyone to post and view photos, I've setup

anonymous

FTP access that will allow anyone to post photos were everyone can see

them.


Thanks Mike! That should work better than sending through the list.

Joel

P.S. Anyone using Netscape won't need the FTP client to upload - Just select
the 'file' menu and click on 'upload'






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OK, I guess I should have tried it out first... I've removed the damaged
file, then uploaded another that I've installed on my system and tested
first. Sorry for the trouble.

Mike

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To: (Murphy Rebel) <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel photo access

Mike I down loaded ftpv6004.zip but when I unzip it I get CRC errors on the

exe

file. When I try to run the exe it gets an exception and hangs my system

(BRS

time). Any thoughts? I can get to the site using my current FTP program

CuteFTP

but that doesn't help anyone else. For anyone who's not up to the

challenge

I'll be glad to put your pictures on my web site as in the past. ...Wray

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TNX Mike. I suspect Joel's and Curt's solutions are probably the easiest and
available to almost everyone. I'll still be glad to post manually. ...Wray

Mike Davis wrote:

OK, I guess I should have tried it out first... I've removed the damaged
file, then uploaded another that I've installed on my system and tested
first. Sorry for the trouble.

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Hi Curt

I laughed when you stated that you are the slowest builder on the planet. I
hereby challenge you on that one. I think I take the dubious award for that
honour!

Prove to me that you are slower than me... I dare you!

Brian #328R

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Curt I've been having the same slowness myself. #306R There is so much of
the wing
that requires a second person - moving skins, turning wings over etc. I
finally I
got in the mood about 2 weeks ago and got some help. I'm still on my first
wing but
in those 2 weeks I finished cutting out the tank area of the skins,
deburring
everything on the wings. making and gooping in all the little tank fittings
and
blockages (those little things to fill most of the gaps to the outside of
the
tank.) My proseal which has been in the freezer for several years seems to
be just
fine to. Installed the bottom tank skin last Thur and followed yesterday
with the
top skin. I've done the whole tank with standard rivets as well because my
kit
didn't have the tank rivets. I'll let you know how well it seals in a day or
so
....tried breathing some air into it after closing yesterday and some of the
goop
started to come out so I'm going to let it set up good before testing.
Bottom line ....the tanks were not the mess and problem I thought they'd
be but
I'll repost here in 3 or 4 days after I'm sure they hold air for a couple of
days.
Keep plugging away ...it feels so good when you accomplish something after
such a
long time (I've had that wing on the bench for a couple of years) Hoping to
have
this wing all closed and put away within the week. ...Wray

Curt Belshe wrote:

Well, let's see...

I have #167R and I have both wings in skeletal condition. The stringers

and

skins
have been drilled and deburr'd but I have come to a full halt while I try

and

decide
if I want to struggle with the wet wings (as designed) or if I should go

for

welded
tanks (which I'm leaning toward).

The building hasn't been difficult, it just takes me a long time to do

anything

and I
go months without getting anything done. Working 6 days a week hasn't

helped.

You can't tell me you're slower than that... Maybe diesels will be cheap

when

I get ready for a power plant...

curt

RebelAir@aol.com wrote:

Hi Curt

I laughed when you stated that you are the slowest builder on the

planet. I

hereby challenge you on that one. I think I take the dubious award for

that

honour!

Prove to me that you are slower than me... I dare you!

Brian #328R

--
Wray Thompson ...Rebel 306 ...home page http://www.globalserve.net/~cobbg/





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-----Original Message-----
From: Wray Thompson <wrayt@ibm.net>
To: (Murphy Rebel) <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 8:46 AM
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Curt I've been having the same slowness myself. #306R There is so much of

the wing

that requires a second person - moving skins, turning wings over etc. I

finally I

got in the mood about 2 weeks ago and got some help. I'm still on my first

wing but

in those 2 weeks I finished cutting out the tank area of the skins,

deburring

everything on the wings. making and gooping in all the little tank fittings

and

blockages (those little things to fill most of the gaps to the outside of

the

tank.)

Don't feel like the lone stranger. I built both wings simultaniously up to
the skeletel stage and finished the first one pretty quick. The second one
sat on my table for a year and a half. Durring that time I did my Subaru
conversion. I finally got back to it and dad and I finished it up a couple
weeks ago. Now both wings are hung up in the garage. Real good feeling.
Every succesful builder I talk to says the same thing - you gotta do
something every day. Even if its just sweeping the shop. It's amazing how
quick it goes together if you work on it - or how long it takes if you
don't... I'm sure I'll be more motivated with the fuselage. I keep telling
myself I only have to build one;-)

Joel R416





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Hi Guys

I could not agree more with the comment. Just keep taking a few steps each
day. Even if it is simply planning or getting on the phone to get parts on
the way. (You do alot of this once you have completed the aircraft up the
firewall). I find I get discouraged if I do not see consistent progress and
then you want to go out and buy a Cessna. (What a fate! There has to be
more
to life than flying a 172). Keep working/thinking about it a little each
day
and you will be amazed how you can move through 'hard' problems etc.

Happy building from the slowest or second slowest builder (I am neck and
neck
with Curt).


Brian #328R