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choosing a propeller

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Walter Klatt
Hey, Bob, I'm thinking of getting another prop for my Rebel, too. Can you
provide the RPM's for the 54 vs 56 at full power static, or take-off (not
climb), also top RPM's for straight and level at the reflex position for
both props? I assume, the 54 would be redlined? Is it the 150 HP 0320 that
you have?

My current Warp Drive is serving me well for now, with decent climb and
cruise, but don't believe it is high performance by any means. There are
some smaller higher altitude lakes that I would like to visit, so will need
all the power I can get for take-off. I don't really care about cruise.

Would a 76 diameter finer pitch be even better or is too much for a 150 hp
0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:31 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propellor



Hi Shira !

You could go for a compromise prop - there are 3 pitches
of Sensenich metal prop recommended for the Rebel.

74" diameter x 54, 56, or 58 inch pitch

The 54 is climb, and the 58 is cruise - I have the 56" on
my O-320. It seems to work well for both - climb is about 1,500 fpm,
with 2 aboard, and cruise is about 125 mph at 2,450 rpm, with faired gear.

I hope to use this prop on amphibs this summer, and don't
expect any problems.

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 06:53 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a question to all Murphy rebel owners.
I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
we haven't decided yet which propellor to go with.
I would like to hear from those of you who have
put on the climb prop or the cruise prop. Those with
the climb prop, what is your rate of climb? and what is
your cruise speed?
Those with the cruise prop, what is your cruising speed?
and what is your rate of climb?
I am trying to decide if it is worth having the climb prop,
because we have 160hp engine. Or is it worth having
more speed when you are in the air.
Thankyou for your responses.
Shira Ellsworth
Murphy rebel #628R

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question to all Murphy rebel
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we haven't decided yet which propellor to go
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to hear from those of you who
have
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>put on the climb prop or the cruise
prop.&nbsp;
Those with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the climb prop, what is your rate of climb?
and
what is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your cruise speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those with the cruise prop, what is your
cruising
speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and what is your rate of climb?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am trying to decide if it is worth having
the
climb prop,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>because we have 160hp engine.&nbsp; Or is it
worth
having </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>more speed when you are in the
air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thankyou for your responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shira Ellsworth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Murphy rebel #628R</FONT></DIV>
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Walter, just a quick 2 cents from me. Sensenich won't sell you a 76" for
your O-320 as they haven't certified one for the application. McCauley has a
76 x 52 for the 172/177 that worked fairly well on Howard's 150 HP Rebel,
but the 74 x 52 Sensenich he went with most recently works better (and as
far as I'm concerned it's too fine!)!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: choosing a propeller

Hey, Bob, I'm thinking of getting another prop for my Rebel, too. Can you
provide the RPM's for the 54 vs 56 at full power static, or take-off (not
climb), also top RPM's for straight and level at the reflex position for
both props? I assume, the 54 would be redlined? Is it the 150 HP 0320 that
you have?

My current Warp Drive is serving me well for now, with decent climb and
cruise, but don't believe it is high performance by any means. There are
some smaller higher altitude lakes that I would like to visit, so will
need
all the power I can get for take-off. I don't really care about cruise.

Would a 76 diameter finer pitch be even better or is too much for a 150 hp
0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:31 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propellor



Hi Shira !

You could go for a compromise prop - there are 3 pitches
of Sensenich metal prop recommended for the Rebel.

74" diameter x 54, 56, or 58 inch pitch

The 54 is climb, and the 58 is cruise - I have the 56" on
my O-320. It seems to work well for both - climb is about 1,500 fpm,
with 2 aboard, and cruise is about 125 mph at 2,450 rpm, with faired gear.

I hope to use this prop on amphibs this summer, and don't
expect any problems.

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 06:53 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a question to all Murphy rebel owners.
I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
we haven't decided yet which propellor to go with.
I would like to hear from those of you who have
put on the climb prop or the cruise prop. Those with
the climb prop, what is your rate of climb? and what is
your cruise speed?
Those with the cruise prop, what is your cruising speed?
and what is your rate of climb?
I am trying to decide if it is worth having the climb prop,
because we have 160hp engine. Or is it worth having
more speed when you are in the air.
Thankyou for your responses.
Shira Ellsworth
Murphy rebel #628R

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question to all Murphy rebel
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel,
and
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we haven't decided yet which propellor to go
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to hear from those of you who
have
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>put on the climb prop or the cruise
prop.&nbsp;
Those with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the climb prop, what is your rate of climb?
and
what is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your cruise speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those with the cruise prop, what is your
cruising
speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and what is your rate of climb?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am trying to decide if it is worth having
the
climb prop,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>because we have 160hp engine.&nbsp; Or is it
worth
having </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>more speed when you are in the
air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thankyou for your responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shira Ellsworth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Murphy rebel #628R</FONT></DIV>
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Walter Klatt
Thanks Wayne. Do you know what Howard's static/take-off RPM was with the 74
X 52 Sensenich, and what HP on his 0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:13 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propeller


Walter, just a quick 2 cents from me. Sensenich won't sell you a 76" for
your O-320 as they haven't certified one for the application. McCauley has a
76 x 52 for the 172/177 that worked fairly well on Howard's 150 HP Rebel,
but the 74 x 52 Sensenich he went with most recently works better (and as
far as I'm concerned it's too fine!)!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: choosing a propeller

Hey, Bob, I'm thinking of getting another prop for my Rebel, too. Can you
provide the RPM's for the 54 vs 56 at full power static, or take-off (not
climb), also top RPM's for straight and level at the reflex position for
both props? I assume, the 54 would be redlined? Is it the 150 HP 0320 that
you have?

My current Warp Drive is serving me well for now, with decent climb and
cruise, but don't believe it is high performance by any means. There are
some smaller higher altitude lakes that I would like to visit, so will
need
all the power I can get for take-off. I don't really care about cruise.

Would a 76 diameter finer pitch be even better or is too much for a 150 hp
0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:31 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propellor



Hi Shira !

You could go for a compromise prop - there are 3 pitches
of Sensenich metal prop recommended for the Rebel.

74" diameter x 54, 56, or 58 inch pitch

The 54 is climb, and the 58 is cruise - I have the 56" on
my O-320. It seems to work well for both - climb is about 1,500 fpm,
with 2 aboard, and cruise is about 125 mph at 2,450 rpm, with faired gear.

I hope to use this prop on amphibs this summer, and don't
expect any problems.

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 06:53 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a question to all Murphy rebel owners.
I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
we haven't decided yet which propellor to go with.
I would like to hear from those of you who have
put on the climb prop or the cruise prop. Those with
the climb prop, what is your rate of climb? and what is
your cruise speed?
Those with the cruise prop, what is your cruising speed?
and what is your rate of climb?
I am trying to decide if it is worth having the climb prop,
because we have 160hp engine. Or is it worth having
more speed when you are in the air.
Thankyou for your responses.
Shira Ellsworth
Murphy rebel #628R

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question to all Murphy rebel
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel,
and
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we haven't decided yet which propellor to go
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to hear from those of you who
have
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>put on the climb prop or the cruise
prop.&nbsp;
Those with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the climb prop, what is your rate of climb?
and
what is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your cruise speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those with the cruise prop, what is your
cruising
speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and what is your rate of climb?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am trying to decide if it is worth having
the
climb prop,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>because we have 160hp engine.&nbsp; Or is it
worth
having </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>more speed when you are in the
air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thankyou for your responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shira Ellsworth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Murphy rebel #628R</FONT></DIV>
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Walter, Howard's is a 150 HP O-320-E2D just like Bob's. We will be getting
her back out in the next week, or so, and at that time I will get a full
power ground run number for you.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: choosing a propeller

Thanks Wayne. Do you know what Howard's static/take-off RPM was with the
74
X 52 Sensenich, and what HP on his 0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:13 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propeller


Walter, just a quick 2 cents from me. Sensenich won't sell you a 76" for
your O-320 as they haven't certified one for the application. McCauley has
a
76 x 52 for the 172/177 that worked fairly well on Howard's 150 HP Rebel,
but the 74 x 52 Sensenich he went with most recently works better (and as
far as I'm concerned it's too fine!)!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: choosing a propeller

Hey, Bob, I'm thinking of getting another prop for my Rebel, too. Can
you
provide the RPM's for the 54 vs 56 at full power static, or take-off
(not
climb), also top RPM's for straight and level at the reflex position for
both props? I assume, the 54 would be redlined? Is it the 150 HP 0320
that
you have?

My current Warp Drive is serving me well for now, with decent climb and
cruise, but don't believe it is high performance by any means. There are
some smaller higher altitude lakes that I would like to visit, so will
need
all the power I can get for take-off. I don't really care about cruise.

Would a 76 diameter finer pitch be even better or is too much for a 150
hp
0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:31 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propellor



Hi Shira !

You could go for a compromise prop - there are 3 pitches
of Sensenich metal prop recommended for the Rebel.

74" diameter x 54, 56, or 58 inch pitch

The 54 is climb, and the 58 is cruise - I have the 56" on
my O-320. It seems to work well for both - climb is about 1,500 fpm,
with 2 aboard, and cruise is about 125 mph at 2,450 rpm, with faired
gear.
I hope to use this prop on amphibs this summer, and don't
expect any problems.

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 06:53 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a question to all Murphy rebel owners.
I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
we haven't decided yet which propellor to go with.
I would like to hear from those of you who have
put on the climb prop or the cruise prop. Those with
the climb prop, what is your rate of climb? and what is
your cruise speed?
Those with the cruise prop, what is your cruising speed?
and what is your rate of climb?
I am trying to decide if it is worth having the climb prop,
because we have 160hp engine. Or is it worth having
more speed when you are in the air.
Thankyou for your responses.
Shira Ellsworth
Murphy rebel #628R

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question to all Murphy rebel
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel,
and
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we haven't decided yet which propellor to
go
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to hear from those of you who
have
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>put on the climb prop or the cruise
prop.&nbsp;
Those with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the climb prop, what is your rate of
climb?
and
what is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your cruise speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those with the cruise prop, what is your
cruising
speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and what is your rate of
climb?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am trying to decide if it is worth
having
the
climb prop,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>because we have 160hp engine.&nbsp; Or is
it
worth
having </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>more speed when you are in the
air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thankyou for your responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shira Ellsworth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Murphy rebel #628R</FONT></DIV>
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Bob Patterson
Hi Walter !

I have the 150 hp. O-320 (by far the most popular choice
hereabouts - several reasons). The 74 x 56 Sensenich gives approx.
2500 - 2550 rpm at takeoff, and it will pull redline(+) in level flight,
reflexed 2 notches, if you wait a while.

Personally, I don't think I will want anything finer on
amphibs, but if you really want a bit more, I guess the 54" will
give it. The trade-off will be about 5 - 8 mph in cruise, though,
I suspect.

Some float pilots like the Borer props, which are very long,
and fine pitched - theoretically ideal, but Sensenich hasn't made
or tested anything like that for the O-320. Since the only reason
for dumping the Warp Drive was to get more reliability, I wouldn't
want to experiment again (at $3,000 a throw !!) ;-) :-)

We'll see - with luck, I hope to get out to Chilliwack in
June to get my amphibs, so we'll have a chance to compare then.

.....bobp

----------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 07:03 PM 4/25/02 -0700, you wrote:
Hey, Bob, I'm thinking of getting another prop for my Rebel, too. Can you
provide the RPM's for the 54 vs 56 at full power static, or take-off (not
climb), also top RPM's for straight and level at the reflex position for
both props? I assume, the 54 would be redlined? Is it the 150 HP 0320 that
you have?

My current Warp Drive is serving me well for now, with decent climb and
cruise, but don't believe it is high performance by any means. There are
some smaller higher altitude lakes that I would like to visit, so will need
all the power I can get for take-off. I don't really care about cruise.

Would a 76 diameter finer pitch be even better or is too much for a 150 hp
0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:31 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propellor



Hi Shira !

You could go for a compromise prop - there are 3 pitches
of Sensenich metal prop recommended for the Rebel.

74" diameter x 54, 56, or 58 inch pitch

The 54 is climb, and the 58 is cruise - I have the 56" on
my O-320. It seems to work well for both - climb is about 1,500 fpm,
with 2 aboard, and cruise is about 125 mph at 2,450 rpm, with faired gear.

I hope to use this prop on amphibs this summer, and don't
expect any problems.

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 06:53 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a question to all Murphy rebel owners.
I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
we haven't decided yet which propellor to go with.
I would like to hear from those of you who have
put on the climb prop or the cruise prop. Those with
the climb prop, what is your rate of climb? and what is
your cruise speed?
Those with the cruise prop, what is your cruising speed?
and what is your rate of climb?
I am trying to decide if it is worth having the climb prop,
because we have 160hp engine. Or is it worth having
more speed when you are in the air.
Thankyou for your responses.
Shira Ellsworth
Murphy rebel #628R

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question to all Murphy rebel
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we haven't decided yet which propellor to go
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to hear from those of you who
have
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>put on the climb prop or the cruise
prop.&nbsp;
Those with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the climb prop, what is your rate of climb?
and
what is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your cruise speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those with the cruise prop, what is your
cruising
speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and what is your rate of climb?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am trying to decide if it is worth having
the
climb prop,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>because we have 160hp engine.&nbsp; Or is it
worth
having </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>more speed when you are in the
air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thankyou for your responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shira Ellsworth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Murphy rebel #628R</FONT></DIV>
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Walter Klatt
Yeah, if you're coming out in June, we should try to meet up. I feel like I
owe you a dinner and/or beers at the least, after all the tips and help from
you on this list.

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:13 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: choosing a propeller



Hi Walter !

I have the 150 hp. O-320 (by far the most popular choice
hereabouts - several reasons). The 74 x 56 Sensenich gives approx.
2500 - 2550 rpm at takeoff, and it will pull redline(+) in level flight,
reflexed 2 notches, if you wait a while.

Personally, I don't think I will want anything finer on
amphibs, but if you really want a bit more, I guess the 54" will
give it. The trade-off will be about 5 - 8 mph in cruise, though,
I suspect.

Some float pilots like the Borer props, which are very long,
and fine pitched - theoretically ideal, but Sensenich hasn't made
or tested anything like that for the O-320. Since the only reason
for dumping the Warp Drive was to get more reliability, I wouldn't
want to experiment again (at $3,000 a throw !!) ;-) :-)

We'll see - with luck, I hope to get out to Chilliwack in
June to get my amphibs, so we'll have a chance to compare then.

.....bobp

----------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 07:03 PM 4/25/02 -0700, you wrote:
Hey, Bob, I'm thinking of getting another prop for my Rebel, too. Can you
provide the RPM's for the 54 vs 56 at full power static, or take-off (not
climb), also top RPM's for straight and level at the reflex position for
both props? I assume, the 54 would be redlined? Is it the 150 HP 0320 that
you have?

My current Warp Drive is serving me well for now, with decent climb and
cruise, but don't believe it is high performance by any means. There are
some smaller higher altitude lakes that I would like to visit, so will need
all the power I can get for take-off. I don't really care about cruise.

Would a 76 diameter finer pitch be even better or is too much for a 150 hp
0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:31 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propellor



Hi Shira !

You could go for a compromise prop - there are 3 pitches
of Sensenich metal prop recommended for the Rebel.

74" diameter x 54, 56, or 58 inch pitch

The 54 is climb, and the 58 is cruise - I have the 56" on
my O-320. It seems to work well for both - climb is about 1,500 fpm,
with 2 aboard, and cruise is about 125 mph at 2,450 rpm, with faired gear.

I hope to use this prop on amphibs this summer, and don't
expect any problems.

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 06:53 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a question to all Murphy rebel owners.
I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
we haven't decided yet which propellor to go with.
I would like to hear from those of you who have
put on the climb prop or the cruise prop. Those with
the climb prop, what is your rate of climb? and what is
your cruise speed?
Those with the cruise prop, what is your cruising speed?
and what is your rate of climb?
I am trying to decide if it is worth having the climb prop,
because we have 160hp engine. Or is it worth having
more speed when you are in the air.
Thankyou for your responses.
Shira Ellsworth
Murphy rebel #628R

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question to all Murphy rebel
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel,
and
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we haven't decided yet which propellor to go
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to hear from those of you who
have
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>put on the climb prop or the cruise
prop.&nbsp;
Those with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the climb prop, what is your rate of climb?
and
what is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your cruise speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those with the cruise prop, what is your
cruising
speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and what is your rate of climb?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am trying to decide if it is worth having
the
climb prop,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>because we have 160hp engine.&nbsp; Or is it
worth
having </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>more speed when you are in the
air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thankyou for your responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shira Ellsworth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Murphy rebel #628R</FONT></DIV>
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Bob Patterson
Heck, I don't mind buying the beer - always happy to get together
with another happy Rebel owner !!! :-)

Hope the trip works out - might be going down to Colorado
then, to test-fly a new Rebel, too.....
....bobp

--------------------------------orig.--------------------------------
At 08:59 PM 4/25/02 -0700, you wrote:
Yeah, if you're coming out in June, we should try to meet up. I feel like I
owe you a dinner and/or beers at the least, after all the tips and help from
you on this list.

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:13 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: choosing a propeller



Hi Walter !

I have the 150 hp. O-320 (by far the most popular choice
hereabouts - several reasons). The 74 x 56 Sensenich gives approx.
2500 - 2550 rpm at takeoff, and it will pull redline(+) in level flight,
reflexed 2 notches, if you wait a while.

Personally, I don't think I will want anything finer on
amphibs, but if you really want a bit more, I guess the 54" will
give it. The trade-off will be about 5 - 8 mph in cruise, though,
I suspect.

Some float pilots like the Borer props, which are very long,
and fine pitched - theoretically ideal, but Sensenich hasn't made
or tested anything like that for the O-320. Since the only reason
for dumping the Warp Drive was to get more reliability, I wouldn't
want to experiment again (at $3,000 a throw !!) ;-) :-)

We'll see - with luck, I hope to get out to Chilliwack in
June to get my amphibs, so we'll have a chance to compare then.

.....bobp

----------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 07:03 PM 4/25/02 -0700, you wrote:
Hey, Bob, I'm thinking of getting another prop for my Rebel, too. Can you
provide the RPM's for the 54 vs 56 at full power static, or take-off (not
climb), also top RPM's for straight and level at the reflex position for
both props? I assume, the 54 would be redlined? Is it the 150 HP 0320 that
you have?

My current Warp Drive is serving me well for now, with decent climb and
cruise, but don't believe it is high performance by any means. There are
some smaller higher altitude lakes that I would like to visit, so will need
all the power I can get for take-off. I don't really care about cruise.

Would a 76 diameter finer pitch be even better or is too much for a 150 hp
0320?

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Bob Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:31 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: choosing a propellor



Hi Shira !

You could go for a compromise prop - there are 3 pitches
of Sensenich metal prop recommended for the Rebel.

74" diameter x 54, 56, or 58 inch pitch

The 54 is climb, and the 58 is cruise - I have the 56" on
my O-320. It seems to work well for both - climb is about 1,500 fpm,
with 2 aboard, and cruise is about 125 mph at 2,450 rpm, with faired gear.

I hope to use this prop on amphibs this summer, and don't
expect any problems.

....bobp

---------------------------------orig.----------------------------
At 06:53 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hello all,
I have a question to all Murphy rebel owners.
I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel, and
we haven't decided yet which propellor to go with.
I would like to hear from those of you who have
put on the climb prop or the cruise prop. Those with
the climb prop, what is your rate of climb? and what is
your cruise speed?
Those with the cruise prop, what is your cruising speed?
and what is your rate of climb?
I am trying to decide if it is worth having the climb prop,
because we have 160hp engine. Or is it worth having
more speed when you are in the air.
Thankyou for your responses.
Shira Ellsworth
Murphy rebel #628R

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a question to all Murphy rebel
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am putting a Lycoming 0-320 on my rebel,
and
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we haven't decided yet which propellor to go
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to hear from those of you who
have
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>put on the climb prop or the cruise
prop.&nbsp;
Those with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the climb prop, what is your rate of climb?
and
what is </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your cruise speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those with the cruise prop, what is your
cruising
speed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and what is your rate of climb?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am trying to decide if it is worth having
the
climb prop,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>because we have 160hp engine.&nbsp; Or is it
worth
having </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>more speed when you are in the
air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thankyou for your responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shira Ellsworth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Murphy rebel #628R</FONT></DIV>
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Bob Patterson
Hi Brad !

If everything works out, I hope to be in Colorado in June
to test-fly a new Rebel belonging to John Patten ... if it's finished.
I believe he's in the southern part of Colorado. I'll try to stop
by Colorado Springs, too, to visit friends and maybe do some gliding.

Once I know where we are, I'm sure John wouldn't mind you
looking at his Rebel. Glad you've decided to buy one - they're
a GREAT airplane !!! :-)

Drop me a line off-list if you have more questions about
options, etc.

......bobp

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Jeff Cady
If you are wanting a Rebel, I have a project with perfect workmanship.
You can save several hundred hours, and thousands. I am a contractor, and am
in over my head. LYC O-320 150 HP. also available
Jeff

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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 04:53:11 EDT

If anyone makes it to colorado with a rebel I would be very very interested
in checking it out! I am going to order a kit I am just not sure what
model.
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:08 pm
by Murray & Carol
Hi Jeff

I may be interested in your 0-320.
Would you send me some info. on it.

My e-mail is cherkas@shaw.ca

fax 590-5618 (403)

Thanks
Murray Cherkas
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