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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Missed the air tool question! Have never used one, so don't know. When you
start out with the hand pliers make sure you switch hands every 10 clecos or
so, so your muscles grow/ache evenly on each arm!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: <dasstolguy@dcsol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: Cleco price alert

Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by RJ Thomas
Entirely too true!

Cheers, rj

R J Thomas
Lafayette, LA
rj.thomas@halliburton.com
(337) 849-4136

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-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne G. O'Shea [mailto:oifa@irishfield.on.ca]
Sent: Monday, February 04,2002 1:25 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Cleco price alert


Missed the air tool question! Have never used one, so don't know. When you
start out with the hand pliers make sure you switch hands every 10 clecos or
so, so your muscles grow/ache evenly on each arm!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: <dasstolguy@dcsol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: Cleco price alert

Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by Rick DeCiero
Rob,
There is a definite difference in the quality from one cleco vendor to
another. Unknowingly, I had purchased about 100 pieces of poor quality. They
are # 30's. I can not remember where I got them but it was at one of the
standard vendors at Oshkosh. The clecos were new. The thing to look for here is
that the nose of the side pieces are well rounded and tapered in to the center.
Also, make sure that when squeezed, the two side pieces fully collapse to meet.
I now buy these only through the mail and if the parts are not up to my
requirements, they go back. Price is not necessarily the driver for the quality
of these pieces as I have purchased some excellent new clecos for 25 cents
apiece. This was about 6 years ago. I have the air cleco tool from Aircraft
spruce. It was about $75 at the time. This is one tool that you must have
unless you have Popeye forearms.
Good luck you'll need it,
Rick D. (getting closer)
Rebel N754SM

dasstolguy@dcsol.com wrote:
Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by dasstolguy
Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net




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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by klehman
Hi Rob

I got all mine from http://www.aircraft-tool.com/index.html-ssi
Aircraft Tool is usually the cheapest price except they are even cheaper
at Oshkosh or Sun n Fun. They work fine but I have nothing to really
compare them to. I suspect I accumulated about 500 #30 and 400 #40 by
the time I finished the wings. Guys have said I'll use them all again on
the floats. Recommend you get about 10 of the #11 size as well.

Avery also sells a flanging tool that looks like about a 3" round by
half inch thick piece of aluminum with the nylon rollers. You can make
your own but the Avery one is my favourite for putting a small bend or
flange along the edge of the aluminum panels. Not a requirement but it
does keep the edges tight and looks better.

The pneumatic tool sounds silly until you can't sleep due to numb hands
from squeezing clecos by the 100s. I have the one from Spruce but I have
seen it cheaper (US industrial maybe?). Anyway there is a small disk
with an orifice under the hose fitting where it threads into the body of
the tool. I replaced that disk with a smaller orifice so that the tool
hammers less hard when removing an installed cleco. Less air pressure
doesn't help as then it won't squeeze the cleco fully.

Ken

dasstolguy@dcsol.com wrote:
Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?


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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
That's about as good as it gets Rob, but I did recently come across someone
that was claiming $.29 each and will try to figure out who that was again
and post. I am currently working on a deal to buy direct from California
Associated Products (Cleko-Lok brand) in volume. Don't know what the costs
will be and definitely don't wait for me to consummate a deal, as I don't
know if it will ever come for sure!

If you want to get some long grip fasteners, and a few of each side is
always nice/handy (these are the ones with either nuts or wing nuts on them
and grip in usually 1/2" or 1" ranges), go on e-bay and buy them from a guy
by the name of Ray Lawrence his e-bay name is rl100w@aol.com. I just bought
a dozen 3/16 ones for only $10.50US and a dozen 1/8 for only $8.50. These
usually sell for about $4 a piece and it would have been great to have about
60 to 100 (in 3/32, 1/8 and 3/16) of them when doing the SR wings with all
those damn shims under every rib. With the Rebel you will find only a few
places where you need the extra grip that standard cleco's don't offer! Up
until my recent purchase, above, I was making do with 2 x 1/8" ones and 2 x
3/16" ones but it sure would have been nice to have a dozen of each around
before!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: <dasstolguy@dcsol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: Cleco price alert

Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Rick! Who's brand name is stamped onthe side of those low quality cleco's??
Just want to know before I get 10 or 20 THOUSAND from California Associated
and find out they are their Cleko-Lok brand!

Thanks,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Cleco price alert

Rob,
There is a definite difference in the quality from one cleco vendor to
another. Unknowingly, I had purchased about 100 pieces of poor quality.
They
are # 30's. I can not remember where I got them but it was at one of the
standard vendors at Oshkosh. The clecos were new. The thing to look for
here is
that the nose of the side pieces are well rounded and tapered in to the
center.
Also, make sure that when squeezed, the two side pieces fully collapse to
meet.
I now buy these only through the mail and if the parts are not up to my
requirements, they go back. Price is not necessarily the driver for the
quality
of these pieces as I have purchased some excellent new clecos for 25 cents
apiece. This was about 6 years ago. I have the air cleco tool from
Aircraft
spruce. It was about $75 at the time. This is one tool that you must have
unless you have Popeye forearms.
Good luck you'll need it,
Rick D. (getting closer)
Rebel N754SM

dasstolguy@dcsol.com wrote:
Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by Rick DeCiero
Wayne,
I just checked a few and the CLEKOLOK-USA name is stamped on the side of the
poor quality pieces that I have. Maybe this was a bad batch but it doesn't sound
like it. I looked at some stubby ones that don't work too well and the
CLEKOLOK-USA name appears again. I have relegated these to automotive sheet
metal duty as they are terrible to work with not to mention what they do to an
aluminum hole after a few in and outs. I'll probably sell them at an automotive
flea market. Some auto "discounters" sell clecos for $ 1.00 - $1.25 each !!! And
you thought the aviation people were getting hosed?
Most of my clecos are KWIK-LOC USA and they are very nice.
Good luck,
Rick D.

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:
Rick! Who's brand name is stamped onthe side of those low quality cleco's??
Just want to know before I get 10 or 20 THOUSAND from California Associated
and find out they are their Cleko-Lok brand!

Thanks,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Cleco price alert
Rob,
There is a definite difference in the quality from one cleco vendor to
another. Unknowingly, I had purchased about 100 pieces of poor quality.
They
are # 30's. I can not remember where I got them but it was at one of the
standard vendors at Oshkosh. The clecos were new. The thing to look for
here is
that the nose of the side pieces are well rounded and tapered in to the
center.
Also, make sure that when squeezed, the two side pieces fully collapse to
meet.
I now buy these only through the mail and if the parts are not up to my
requirements, they go back. Price is not necessarily the driver for the
quality
of these pieces as I have purchased some excellent new clecos for 25 cents
apiece. This was about 6 years ago. I have the air cleco tool from
Aircraft
spruce. It was about $75 at the time. This is one tool that you must have
unless you have Popeye forearms.
Good luck you'll need it,
Rick D. (getting closer)
Rebel N754SM

dasstolguy@dcsol.com wrote:
Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
$.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.

Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Thanks Rick!!! I had a look at what I have in the shop today also, and I
have both the Kwik-Loc and the Cleko-lok. The Cleco-lok's I have are 3/32
and they look no different in quality than the kwik-loc ones. If I go ahead
with a deal through the Cleko-lok brand I will ask for a sampling of
everything before the "big" order to be safe that I don't buy junk!

Thanks again.
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Cleco price alert

Wayne,
I just checked a few and the CLEKOLOK-USA name is stamped on the side
of the
poor quality pieces that I have. Maybe this was a bad batch but it doesn't
sound
like it. I looked at some stubby ones that don't work too well and the
CLEKOLOK-USA name appears again. I have relegated these to automotive
sheet
metal duty as they are terrible to work with not to mention what they do
to an
aluminum hole after a few in and outs. I'll probably sell them at an
automotive
flea market. Some auto "discounters" sell clecos for $ 1.00 - $1.25 each
!!! And
you thought the aviation people were getting hosed?
Most of my clecos are KWIK-LOC USA and they are very nice.
Good luck,
Rick D.

"Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:
Rick! Who's brand name is stamped onthe side of those low quality
cleco's??
Just want to know before I get 10 or 20 THOUSAND from California
Associated
and find out they are their Cleko-Lok brand!

Thanks,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Cleco price alert
Rob,
There is a definite difference in the quality from one cleco
vendor to
another. Unknowingly, I had purchased about 100 pieces of poor
quality.
They
are # 30's. I can not remember where I got them but it was at one of
the
standard vendors at Oshkosh. The clecos were new. The thing to look
for
here is
that the nose of the side pieces are well rounded and tapered in to
the
center.
Also, make sure that when squeezed, the two side pieces fully collapse
to
meet.
I now buy these only through the mail and if the parts are not up to
my
requirements, they go back. Price is not necessarily the driver for
the
quality
of these pieces as I have purchased some excellent new clecos for 25
cents
apiece. This was about 6 years ago. I have the air cleco tool from
Aircraft
spruce. It was about $75 at the time. This is one tool that you must
have
unless you have Popeye forearms.
Good luck you'll need it,
Rick D. (getting closer)
Rebel N754SM

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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by dasstolguy
Avery is selling U.S. made Monogram clecos. Any builder experience with
Monogram clecos.

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


On 2/5/2002 8:56 PM, OIFA@IRISHFIELD.ON.CA wrote to MURPHY-REBEL:

-> Thanks Rick!!! I had a look at what I have in the shop today also, and I
-> have both the Kwik-Loc and the Cleko-lok. The Cleco-lok's I have are 3/32
-> and they look no different in quality than the kwik-loc ones. If I go ahead
-> with a deal through the Cleko-lok brand I will ask for a sampling of
-> everything before the "big" order to be safe that I don't buy junk!
->
-> Thanks again.
-> Wayne G. O'Shea
-> www.irishfield.on.ca
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
-> To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:59 PM
-> Subject: Re: Cleco price alert
->
->
-> > Wayne,
-> > I just checked a few and the CLEKOLOK-USA name is stamped on the side
-> of the
-> > poor quality pieces that I have. Maybe this was a bad batch but it doesn't
-> sound
-> > like it. I looked at some stubby ones that don't work too well and the
-> > CLEKOLOK-USA name appears again. I have relegated these to automotive
-> sheet
-> > metal duty as they are terrible to work with not to mention what they do
-> to an
-> > aluminum hole after a few in and outs. I'll probably sell them at an
-> automotive
-> > flea market. Some auto "discounters" sell clecos for $ 1.00 - $1.25 each
-> !!! And
-> > you thought the aviation people were getting hosed?
-> > Most of my clecos are KWIK-LOC USA and they are very nice.
-> > Good luck,
-> > Rick D.
-> >
-> > "Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:
-> >
-> > > Rick! Who's brand name is stamped onthe side of those low quality
-> cleco's??
-> > > Just want to know before I get 10 or 20 THOUSAND from California
-> Associated
-> > > and find out they are their Cleko-Lok brand!
-> > >
-> > > Thanks,
-> > > Wayne G. O'Shea
-> > > www.irishfield.on.ca
-> > >
-> > > ----- Original Message -----
-> > > From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
-> > > To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:21 PM
-> > > Subject: Re: Cleco price alert
-> > >
-> > > > Rob,
-> > > > There is a definite difference in the quality from one cleco
-> vendor to
-> > > > another. Unknowingly, I had purchased about 100 pieces of poor
-> quality.
-> > > They
-> > > > are # 30's. I can not remember where I got them but it was at one of
-> the
-> > > > standard vendors at Oshkosh. The clecos were new. The thing to look
-> for
-> > > here is
-> > > > that the nose of the side pieces are well rounded and tapered in to
-> the
-> > > center.
-> > > > Also, make sure that when squeezed, the two side pieces fully collapse
-> to
-> > > meet.
-> > > > I now buy these only through the mail and if the parts are not up to
-> my
-> > > > requirements, they go back. Price is not necessarily the driver for
-> the
-> > > quality
-> > > > of these pieces as I have purchased some excellent new clecos for 25
-> cents
-> > > > apiece. This was about 6 years ago. I have the air cleco tool from
-> > > Aircraft
-> > > > spruce. It was about $75 at the time. This is one tool that you must
-> have
-> > > > unless you have Popeye forearms.
-> > > > Good luck you'll need it,
-> > > > Rick D. (getting closer)
-> > > > Rebel N754SM
-> > > >
-> > > > dasstolguy@dcsol.com wrote:
-> > > >
-> > > > > Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
-> > > > > $.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.
-> > > > >
-> > > > > Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
-> > > > > Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
-> > > > > What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?
-> > > > >
-> > > > > Rob Sexmith
-> > > > > rsexmith@fuse.net
-> > > > >
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Cleco price alert

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm
by RJ Thomas
Rob,

I bought all of my clecos from Avery and I have had no significant problems
with them. I have managed to break a few, but I think that has more to do
with heavy handed technique than the quality of the products.

Cheers, rj

R J Thomas
Lafayette, LA
rj.thomas@halliburton.com
(337) 849-4136

Super Rebel N140SR (Still a large pile of aluminum)
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-----Original Message-----
From: dasstolguy@dcsol.com [mailto:dasstolguy@dcsol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05,2002 11:58 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Cleco price alert


Avery is selling U.S. made Monogram clecos. Any builder experience with
Monogram clecos.

Rob Sexmith
rsexmith@fuse.net


On 2/5/2002 8:56 PM, OIFA@IRISHFIELD.ON.CA wrote to MURPHY-REBEL:

-> Thanks Rick!!! I had a look at what I have in the shop today also, and I
-> have both the Kwik-Loc and the Cleko-lok. The Cleco-lok's I have are 3/32
-> and they look no different in quality than the kwik-loc ones. If I go
ahead
-> with a deal through the Cleko-lok brand I will ask for a sampling of
-> everything before the "big" order to be safe that I don't buy junk!
->
-> Thanks again.
-> Wayne G. O'Shea
-> www.irishfield.on.ca
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
-> To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:59 PM
-> Subject: Re: Cleco price alert
->
->
-> > Wayne,
-> > I just checked a few and the CLEKOLOK-USA name is stamped on the
side
-> of the
-> > poor quality pieces that I have. Maybe this was a bad batch but it
doesn't
-> sound
-> > like it. I looked at some stubby ones that don't work too well and the
-> > CLEKOLOK-USA name appears again. I have relegated these to automotive
-> sheet
-> > metal duty as they are terrible to work with not to mention what they
do
-> to an
-> > aluminum hole after a few in and outs. I'll probably sell them at an
-> automotive
-> > flea market. Some auto "discounters" sell clecos for $ 1.00 - $1.25
each
-> !!! And
-> > you thought the aviation people were getting hosed?
-> > Most of my clecos are KWIK-LOC USA and they are very nice.
-> > Good luck,
-> > Rick D.
-> >
-> > "Wayne G. O'Shea" wrote:
-> >
-> > > Rick! Who's brand name is stamped onthe side of those low quality
-> cleco's??
-> > > Just want to know before I get 10 or 20 THOUSAND from California
-> Associated
-> > > and find out they are their Cleko-Lok brand!
-> > >
-> > > Thanks,
-> > > Wayne G. O'Shea
-> > > www.irishfield.on.ca
-> > >
-> > > ----- Original Message -----
-> > > From: "Rick DeCiero" <rsdec1@star.net>
-> > > To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:21 PM
-> > > Subject: Re: Cleco price alert
-> > >
-> > > > Rob,
-> > > > There is a definite difference in the quality from one cleco
-> vendor to
-> > > > another. Unknowingly, I had purchased about 100 pieces of poor
-> quality.
-> > > They
-> > > > are # 30's. I can not remember where I got them but it was at one
of
-> the
-> > > > standard vendors at Oshkosh. The clecos were new. The thing to look
-> for
-> > > here is
-> > > > that the nose of the side pieces are well rounded and tapered in to
-> the
-> > > center.
-> > > > Also, make sure that when squeezed, the two side pieces fully
collapse
-> to
-> > > meet.
-> > > > I now buy these only through the mail and if the parts are not up
to
-> my
-> > > > requirements, they go back. Price is not necessarily the driver for
-> the
-> > > quality
-> > > > of these pieces as I have purchased some excellent new clecos for
25
-> cents
-> > > > apiece. This was about 6 years ago. I have the air cleco tool from
-> > > Aircraft
-> > > > spruce. It was about $75 at the time. This is one tool that you
must
-> have
-> > > > unless you have Popeye forearms.
-> > > > Good luck you'll need it,
-> > > > Rick D. (getting closer)
-> > > > Rebel N754SM
-> > > >
-> > > > dasstolguy@dcsol.com wrote:
-> > > >
-> > > > > Avery Tools is running a special on Clecos 4 std sizes for
-> > > > > $.32 USD each down from $.38 USD each.
-> > > > >
-> > > > > Is this a fair/good/excellent price? Is their quality OK?
-> > > > > Is there a better quality/price source for Clecos?
-> > > > > What air Cleco installation tool do people prefer?
-> > > > >
-> > > > > Rob Sexmith
-> > > > > rsexmith@fuse.net
-> > > > >
-> > > > >
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