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Have any SR or Rebel builders installed one of the
Navaid Devices autopilots in their plane? I was
curious as to how they installed it...ie servo
location, etc.

-Jason

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Jason,
I have installed the Navaid autopilot. The servo is located on the left
side, inside the wing root. It drives off the aileron cable between the door
post and the pulley that turns the cable to the mixer. I have not connected
the cable to the servo yet, but it looks like everything will fit ok, I say
that a lot.....
Al
SR#26
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From: "Jason Beall" <super_rebel131@yahoo.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Have any SR or Rebel builders installed one of the
Navaid Devices autopilots in their plane? I was
curious as to how they installed it...ie servo
location, etc.

-Jason

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Does the Navaid provide some way to just clamp onto the existing cable? All
you have to do is position the device near the cable, then clamp on?

Mike Kimball
SR#044

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Al & Deb Paxhia
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 8:53 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Navaid Devices Autopilot


Jason,
I have installed the Navaid autopilot. The servo is located on the left
side, inside the wing root. It drives off the aileron cable between the door
post and the pulley that turns the cable to the mixer. I have not connected
the cable to the servo yet, but it looks like everything will fit ok, I say
that a lot.....
Al
SR#26
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Beall" <super_rebel131@yahoo.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Have any SR or Rebel builders installed one of the
Navaid Devices autopilots in their plane? I was
curious as to how they installed it...ie servo
location, etc.

-Jason

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Super Rebel No. 131
Aberdeen, Scotland, UK
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Navaid gives one of two choices either a cable harness that goes around the
servo capstan then attaches to the aileron cable or a push-pull tube
attachment on the servo. The aileron cable is tangent to the servo capstan.
The only working Navaid that I have seen was on an RV4, he used the
push-pull tube attachment and it was under the floor attached to the control
stick. I prefer the push-pull tube, but could not find a place to install it
with out a lot of work.
Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kimball" <mkimball@gci.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Does the Navaid provide some way to just clamp onto the existing cable?

All

you have to do is position the device near the cable, then clamp on?

Mike Kimball
SR#044

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Al & Deb Paxhia
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 8:53 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Navaid Devices Autopilot


Jason,
I have installed the Navaid autopilot. The servo is located on the left
side, inside the wing root. It drives off the aileron cable between the

door

post and the pulley that turns the cable to the mixer. I have not

connected

the cable to the servo yet, but it looks like everything will fit ok, I

say

that a lot.....
Al
SR#26
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Beall" <super_rebel131@yahoo.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Have any SR or Rebel builders installed one of the
Navaid Devices autopilots in their plane? I was
curious as to how they installed it...ie servo
location, etc.

-Jason

=====
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Super Rebel No. 131
Aberdeen, Scotland, UK
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Hum!? My thought was to install the servo with the arm
just forward of the crank-arm of the torque-tube in
the wing. However, I see a bunch of potential
problems...

1)May not be enough room

2)Hard to access for maintenance...plus requires new
inspection holes

3)makes that wing heavy (probably insignificant, but
light weight times long arm=a moment worth
consideration)

My dilema is there is a five month queue for the
navaid Autopliots right now and and you have to let
them know if you want a servo with a capstan or with a
push-rod.

Al, do you happen to have any digital photos of your
installation? I don't want to trouble you if you dont.
Would be curious to see where you are installing it.

-Jason


I prefer the push-pull tube, but could not

find a place to install it
with out a lot of work.
Al

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Super Rebel No. 131
Aberdeen, Scotland, UK
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Al and Jason

I also plan on installing the NAVAID devise but as I'm planning on using
a 'T' bar and control wheels I'll try and install under the cockpit
floor.

Also plan on adding an EZ-Trim altitude hold. About $300.00 and uses the
MAC trim Servo. For a poor mans 2 axes autopilot.
<http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ccady/eztr ... and=AOL_US>

Subject: Re:

Jason,
I have installed the Navaid autopilot. The servo is located on the left
side, inside the wing root. It drives off the aileron cable between the door
post and the pulley that turns the cable to the mixer. I have not connected
the cable to the servo yet, but it looks like everything will fit ok, I say
that a lot.....
Al
SR#26

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Jason,
I don't have any pictures, but will have time to shoot and post later this
week. Had the same concerns on installation and lead time. I used a
cardboard mockup while waiting for the servo.
Al
SR26

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Beall" <super_rebel131@yahoo.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Hum!? My thought was to install the servo with the arm
just forward of the crank-arm of the torque-tube in
the wing. However, I see a bunch of potential
problems...

1)May not be enough room

2)Hard to access for maintenance...plus requires new
inspection holes

3)makes that wing heavy (probably insignificant, but
light weight times long arm=a moment worth
consideration)

My dilema is there is a five month queue for the
navaid Autopliots right now and and you have to let
them know if you want a servo with a capstan or with a
push-rod.

Al, do you happen to have any digital photos of your
installation? I don't want to trouble you if you dont.
Would be curious to see where you are installing it.

-Jason


I prefer the push-pull tube, but could not

find a place to install it
with out a lot of work.
Al

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Super Rebel No. 131
Aberdeen, Scotland, UK
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Hi Monty,
Thanks for the lead on the EZ-Trim, it looks like a nice addition to the
Navaid. Am I correct that I would tap into the up down connections on the
hat switch for the elevator trim? My trim system has the MAC relay, required
for the dual control stick switches. Is that the same relay that EZ-Trim
shows in their installation info?
Al
SR26
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From: "Warren T. Montgomery" <monty@emirates.net.ae>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Al and Jason

I also plan on installing the NAVAID devise but as I'm planning on using
a 'T' bar and control wheels I'll try and install under the cockpit
floor.

Also plan on adding an EZ-Trim altitude hold. About $300.00 and uses the
MAC trim Servo. For a poor mans 2 axes autopilot.
<http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ccady/eztr ... and=AOL_US>

Subject: Re:

Jason,
I have installed the Navaid autopilot. The servo is located on the left
side, inside the wing root. It drives off the aileron cable between the

door

post and the pulley that turns the cable to the mixer. I have not

connected

the cable to the servo yet, but it looks like everything will fit ok, I

say

that a lot.....
Al
SR#26

--
Warren T. Montgomery
<monty@emirates.net.ae>
Dubai, United Arab Emirates

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I contacted Cliff recently regarding his EZ-Trim and he told me he is not
offering them any longer. He said that after KitPlanes magazine ran an
article on it he was overwhelmed. He will however provide the pre-printed
circuit board along with parts lists and schematics so you can build your
own. He charges $20 for all this... not a bad deal if your handy with a
soldering iron and a schematic.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Al & Deb Paxhia" <paxhia2@home.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Hi Monty,
Thanks for the lead on the EZ-Trim, it looks like a nice addition to the
Navaid. Am I correct that I would tap into the up down connections on the
hat switch for the elevator trim? My trim system has the MAC relay,

required

for the dual control stick switches. Is that the same relay that EZ-Trim
shows in their installation info?
Al
SR26

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Yes we have. We put the servo down on the floor in the left front corner and attached it to the aileron control tube with the arm mech.works great.Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Beall
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:57 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Navaid Devices Autopilot

Have any SR or Rebel builders installed one of the
Navaid Devices autopilots in their plane? I was
curious as to how they installed it...ie servo
location, etc.

-Jason

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Jason Beall
Super Rebel No. 131
Aberdeen, Scotland, UK
super_rebel131@yahoo.com

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Jason,

My email is rmowat@forge-industrial.com

Did you succeed in installing the Navaid auotpilot in your SR? Do you have a
picture?

Thanks.

Ryan Mowat

PS I am new to this Maddog BBS - so I hope this is a correct proceedure.

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-> Have any SR or Rebel builders installed one of the
-> Navaid Devices autopilots in their plane? I was
-> curious as to how they installed it...ie servo
-> location, etc.
->
-> -Jason
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