FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted 3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Many builders in the past few years have asked if there was any positive
proof for the need to reinforce the FUS-30, from in front of the tail spring
attach bulkhead to the fin tailpost, as Bob and myself have been suggesting
to all the builders we've had the privilege to meet/greet over the past MANY
years. I have uploaded the pictures so you don't have to take our word for
it anymore!! Two recent aircraft through my shop have allowed me to get some
shots.

One picture shows a buckled FUS-30. The reinforcement shown in the picture
that was installed by the builder(s) was useless, as it was installed
between the spring attach bulkhead (SAB) and the TS-1's. It did not overlap
the tail post or the SAB at all, so didn't offer any additional strength to
the area.

Another picture shows a cracked FUS-30. This seems to have been caused by a
loosely held tail spring rocking back and forth with a one sided fork Maule
tailwheel. These Maule tailwheels do cause some extra twisting motion on the
tailspring due to the one sided fork, so try to avoid their usage if you
can. If it's a deal you can't refuse, make sure the Tspring is tight and you
have done the FUS-30 doubler.

Third picture shows the cracked FUS-30 repaired with the suggested FUS-30
doubler to prevent the cracking or buckling, that should be built into EVERY
new fuselage that you guys and gals are putting together.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Wayne, curious to know if you have seem this problem on float planes as
well. This is one fix I still haven't applied, but intend to, and just
wondering how urgent it is if on floats. I check mine all the time, and so
far have not seen any deformation in the area. I have the other tail post
fix applied.

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: October 21, 2001 11:36 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted 3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Many builders in the past few years have asked if there was any positive
proof for the need to reinforce the FUS-30, from in front of the
tail spring
attach bulkhead to the fin tailpost, as Bob and myself have been
suggesting
to all the builders we've had the privilege to meet/greet over
the past MANY
years. I have uploaded the pictures so you don't have to take our word for
it anymore!! Two recent aircraft through my shop have allowed me
to get some
shots.

One picture shows a buckled FUS-30. The reinforcement shown in the picture
that was installed by the builder(s) was useless, as it was installed
between the spring attach bulkhead (SAB) and the TS-1's. It did
not overlap
the tail post or the SAB at all, so didn't offer any additional
strength to
the area.

Another picture shows a cracked FUS-30. This seems to have been
caused by a
loosely held tail spring rocking back and forth with a one sided
fork Maule
tailwheel. These Maule tailwheels do cause some extra twisting
motion on the
tailspring due to the one sided fork, so try to avoid their usage if you
can. If it's a deal you can't refuse, make sure the Tspring is
tight and you
have done the FUS-30 doubler.

Third picture shows the cracked FUS-30 repaired with the suggested FUS-30
doubler to prevent the cracking or buckling, that should be built
into EVERY
new fuselage that you guys and gals are putting together.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Walter, shouldn't be a problem unless you flare at a REALLY intense angle
(and bang the tail), or buy a "beta" capable prop and back into a boat
house!!! Strictly a tailwheel "load" associated problem. The SB on the
tailpost to FUS-31 however (that you say you have complied with) is strictly
(90% anyhow) an air load created problem, as it happened to Howard's while
strictly being flown on floats.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@home.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Wayne, curious to know if you have seem this problem on float planes as
well. This is one fix I still haven't applied, but intend to, and just
wondering how urgent it is if on floats. I check mine all the time, and so
far have not seen any deformation in the area. I have the other tail post
fix applied.

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: October 21, 2001 11:36 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted 3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Many builders in the past few years have asked if there was any positive
proof for the need to reinforce the FUS-30, from in front of the
tail spring
attach bulkhead to the fin tailpost, as Bob and myself have been
suggesting
to all the builders we've had the privilege to meet/greet over
the past MANY
years. I have uploaded the pictures so you don't have to take our word

for

it anymore!! Two recent aircraft through my shop have allowed me
to get some
shots.

One picture shows a buckled FUS-30. The reinforcement shown in the

picture

that was installed by the builder(s) was useless, as it was installed
between the spring attach bulkhead (SAB) and the TS-1's. It did
not overlap
the tail post or the SAB at all, so didn't offer any additional
strength to
the area.

Another picture shows a cracked FUS-30. This seems to have been
caused by a
loosely held tail spring rocking back and forth with a one sided
fork Maule
tailwheel. These Maule tailwheels do cause some extra twisting
motion on the
tailspring due to the one sided fork, so try to avoid their usage if you
can. If it's a deal you can't refuse, make sure the Tspring is
tight and you
have done the FUS-30 doubler.

Third picture shows the cracked FUS-30 repaired with the suggested

FUS-30

doubler to prevent the cracking or buckling, that should be built
into EVERY
new fuselage that you guys and gals are putting together.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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Jason Beall · Post by **Jason Beall** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

--- "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca> wrote:

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted
3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Where do i navigate to to see these pics?

web address?

Thanks,

-Jason

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LisaFly99 · Post by **LisaFly99** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

In a message dated 10/22/01 3:15:56 AM Central Daylight Time, super_rebel131@yahoo.com writes:

--- "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca> wrote:
Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted
3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".
Where do i navigate to to see these pics?

web address?

JASON

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Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Everyone please notice that at the bottom of each message the server
automatically adds 4 lines of text. The third line is a hyperlink to the
archives, including the username and password to make it automatic.
Clicking on this link will load the main page from where you can select
"mail" to access the message archives, or "files" to access the file
libraries.

Mike

Where do i navigate to to see these pics?

web address?

Thanks,

-Jason

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Mike Kimball · Post by **Mike Kimball** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Probably not enough history to know if this is a problem for the Super
Rebel. Anybody think a similar mod should be done for an SR?

Mike Kimball
SR#044

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:36 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted 3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Many builders in the past few years have asked if there was any positive
proof for the need to reinforce the FUS-30, from in front of the tail spring
attach bulkhead to the fin tailpost, as Bob and myself have been suggesting
to all the builders we've had the privilege to meet/greet over the past MANY
years. I have uploaded the pictures so you don't have to take our word for
it anymore!! Two recent aircraft through my shop have allowed me to get some
shots.

One picture shows a buckled FUS-30. The reinforcement shown in the picture
that was installed by the builder(s) was useless, as it was installed
between the spring attach bulkhead (SAB) and the TS-1's. It did not overlap
the tail post or the SAB at all, so didn't offer any additional strength to
the area.

Another picture shows a cracked FUS-30. This seems to have been caused by a
loosely held tail spring rocking back and forth with a one sided fork Maule
tailwheel. These Maule tailwheels do cause some extra twisting motion on the
tailspring due to the one sided fork, so try to avoid their usage if you
can. If it's a deal you can't refuse, make sure the Tspring is tight and you
have done the FUS-30 doubler.

Third picture shows the cracked FUS-30 repaired with the suggested FUS-30
doubler to prevent the cracking or buckling, that should be built into EVERY
new fuselage that you guys and gals are putting together.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Mike, the SR tailspring is totally different so no need for a doubler as
shown in the FUS-30 pictures. The SR uses a "rod" style tailspring that does
not push up against the fin tailpost. Would suspect the SR tailcone is
strong enough, as designed by MAM, but only rough field usage will tell.
After all the SR was designed for higher HP/weights. Remember the original
Rebel design was for a 80 H.P. Rotax 912 and a gross of 1200 pounds. Now
that we have 150/180 hp and a gross of 1650, a "few" things need to be
beefed up from the original design!!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kimball" <mkimball@gci.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Probably not enough history to know if this is a problem for the Super
Rebel. Anybody think a similar mod should be done for an SR?

Mike Kimball
SR#044

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:36 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted 3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Many builders in the past few years have asked if there was any positive
proof for the need to reinforce the FUS-30, from in front of the tail

spring

attach bulkhead to the fin tailpost, as Bob and myself have been

suggesting

to all the builders we've had the privilege to meet/greet over the past

MANY

years. I have uploaded the pictures so you don't have to take our word for
it anymore!! Two recent aircraft through my shop have allowed me to get

some

shots.

One picture shows a buckled FUS-30. The reinforcement shown in the picture
that was installed by the builder(s) was useless, as it was installed
between the spring attach bulkhead (SAB) and the TS-1's. It did not

overlap

the tail post or the SAB at all, so didn't offer any additional strength

to

the area.

Another picture shows a cracked FUS-30. This seems to have been caused by

a

loosely held tail spring rocking back and forth with a one sided fork

Maule

tailwheel. These Maule tailwheels do cause some extra twisting motion on

the

tailspring due to the one sided fork, so try to avoid their usage if you
can. If it's a deal you can't refuse, make sure the Tspring is tight and

you

have done the FUS-30 doubler.

Third picture shows the cracked FUS-30 repaired with the suggested FUS-30
doubler to prevent the cracking or buckling, that should be built into

EVERY

new fuselage that you guys and gals are putting together.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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Mike Kimball · Post by **Mike Kimball** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:21 pm

Thanks Wayne.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:12 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Mike, the SR tailspring is totally different so no need for a doubler as
shown in the FUS-30 pictures. The SR uses a "rod" style tailspring that does
not push up against the fin tailpost. Would suspect the SR tailcone is
strong enough, as designed by MAM, but only rough field usage will tell.
After all the SR was designed for higher HP/weights. Remember the original
Rebel design was for a 80 H.P. Rotax 912 and a gross of 1200 pounds. Now
that we have 150/180 hp and a gross of 1650, a "few" things need to be
beefed up from the original design!!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kimball" <mkimball@gci.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Probably not enough history to know if this is a problem for the Super
Rebel. Anybody think a similar mod should be done for an SR?

Mike Kimball
SR#044

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:36 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted 3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Many builders in the past few years have asked if there was any positive
proof for the need to reinforce the FUS-30, from in front of the tail

spring

attach bulkhead to the fin tailpost, as Bob and myself have been

suggesting

to all the builders we've had the privilege to meet/greet over the past

MANY

years. I have uploaded the pictures so you don't have to take our word for
it anymore!! Two recent aircraft through my shop have allowed me to get

some

shots.

One picture shows a buckled FUS-30. The reinforcement shown in the picture
that was installed by the builder(s) was useless, as it was installed
between the spring attach bulkhead (SAB) and the TS-1's. It did not

overlap

the tail post or the SAB at all, so didn't offer any additional strength

to

the area.

Another picture shows a cracked FUS-30. This seems to have been caused by

a

loosely held tail spring rocking back and forth with a one sided fork

Maule

tailwheel. These Maule tailwheels do cause some extra twisting motion on

the

tailspring due to the one sided fork, so try to avoid their usage if you
can. If it's a deal you can't refuse, make sure the Tspring is tight and

you

have done the FUS-30 doubler.

Third picture shows the cracked FUS-30 repaired with the suggested FUS-30
doubler to prevent the cracking or buckling, that should be built into

EVERY

new fuselage that you guys and gals are putting together.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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Charles Skorupa · Post by **Charles Skorupa** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:21 pm

The Elite uses the same rod tailspring as the Super Rebel so Wayne's words
probably apply to it as well, for you Elite builders.
- Chuck Skorupa -
Rebel elite S/N #500
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Mike, the SR tailspring is totally different so no need for a doubler as
shown in the FUS-30 pictures. The SR uses a "rod" style tailspring that

does

not push up against the fin tailpost. Would suspect the SR tailcone is
strong enough, as designed by MAM, but only rough field usage will tell.
After all the SR was designed for higher HP/weights. Remember the original
Rebel design was for a 80 H.P. Rotax 912 and a gross of 1200 pounds. Now
that we have 150/180 hp and a gross of 1650, a "few" things need to be
beefed up from the original design!!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kimball" <mkimball@gci.net>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Probably not enough history to know if this is a problem for the Super
Rebel. Anybody think a similar mod should be done for an SR?

Mike Kimball
SR#044

-----Original Message-----
From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:36 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: FUS-30 DAMAGE/REPAIR

Thought I would let everyone know that I have posted 3 pictures to the
Rebel-Fuselage "file".

Many builders in the past few years have asked if there was any positive
proof for the need to reinforce the FUS-30, from in front of the tail
spring
attach bulkhead to the fin tailpost, as Bob and myself have been
suggesting
to all the builders we've had the privilege to meet/greet over the past
MANY
years. I have uploaded the pictures so you don't have to take our word

for

it anymore!! Two recent aircraft through my shop have allowed me to get
some
shots.

One picture shows a buckled FUS-30. The reinforcement shown in the

picture

that was installed by the builder(s) was useless, as it was installed
between the spring attach bulkhead (SAB) and the TS-1's. It did not
overlap
the tail post or the SAB at all, so didn't offer any additional strength
to
the area.

Another picture shows a cracked FUS-30. This seems to have been caused

by

a
loosely held tail spring rocking back and forth with a one sided fork
Maule
tailwheel. These Maule tailwheels do cause some extra twisting motion on
the
tailspring due to the one sided fork, so try to avoid their usage if you
can. If it's a deal you can't refuse, make sure the Tspring is tight and
you
have done the FUS-30 doubler.

Third picture shows the cracked FUS-30 repaired with the suggested

FUS-30

doubler to prevent the cracking or buckling, that should be built into
EVERY
new fuselage that you guys and gals are putting together.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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