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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by B&O Johnson
Hi Guys and Gals. Well the big day was to-day. My wife Olga and I got up at
6:30 A.M. to the sight of heavy overcast and light rain. But because the
weather report had said Sat. was going to be sunny with cloudy periods (and
they're never wrong) it was off to the airport. (St.Catharines CYSN). By the
time I washed the airplane the weather was clearing somewhat. We have the
Air Cadets glider training here both spring and fall and if they were
willing to pull out the gliders and tow plane then it must be O.K. My only
problem was they use the infield grass which left me with 5,000 feet of hard
surface. Was this enough for my Rebel? I started up and made the appropriate
radio calls, taxied and backtracked runway 24 to the end. Having a rebuilt
engine I did not want to run it long at a low power setting so I had began
an immediate taxi on start up. I swung around, did a quick run-up and mag
check, released the brakes and hit the throttle--WOW-I was airborne before
the tach. hit 2300 RPM. At mid point of the runway I was passing thru 500 ft
and started my turn out at 1300 ft (circuit ht.) and had not even reached
the end of the runway. This was going to be a fun ride. I leveled off at
2500 to cruise around for a while to try and break in the engine properly.
but maintaining full power was taking me past the aircrafts vne of 150
mph.Besides I had to back off the power do to all temps approaching
redlines. At 2300 r.p.m. things started settling down where I could also.I
maintained this altitude through out most of my 1.4 hr flight throttling up
to full power as often and as long as I could. After about an hour temps
started to drop indicating ring seating was taking place. Now was the time
for my prep for landing. A couple of power off stalls with and without flaps
gave me some indication of where I should not be on landing and off we went
back to the circuit. By the way, in all this time I was within gliding
distance and contact with the tower. Very helpful people. My landing was my
first and second in a Rebel. In fact the tower said as I was taxiing off
(well it looks like you still have all the parts you left with so it must
have been a successful 1st. flight.) Basically the Rebel flew hands off. I
did not off-set the fin and I did have to hold right rudder some what, looks
like a trim tab coming up.-opps what will it do to my cruise.(at 2300 rpm
the indicated cruise was 140 mph.) What an airplane-My Rebel empty weight is
978 lb with an O320 H2AD 160 HP supporting a 74" 58"pitch (38 lb) Sensenich
prop and I did not cut the firewall back. My empty C. of G. is 11.14". As is
often said--Keep at it- it really is worth it. I had more people inquiring
about this airplane to-day then you could imagine. Even the tow plane pilots
where making inquiries through the tower shortly after my 1st. take off. I
guess you can tell I am REAL EXCITED.




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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by LisaFly99
In a message dated 10/13/01 7:19:15 PM Central Daylight Time, ob.johnson@sympatico.ca writes:

Hi Guys and Gals. Well the big day was to-day.


B&O Johnson
GONGRADUALATIONS
The Rebel climbs like a homesick angle doesn't it? Now you know for you're self why Bob P. and so many others say to keep at it cause it is worth every minute and bit of frustration of the building. It's a He*# of an airplane!
Gongrats again on a job well done. Oh buy the way that grin on you're face will be there for quite some time.
Phil&Lisa Smith

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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by Walter Klatt
Congratulations! I still remember well that "excitement" during that first
flight. And that feeling of "it really is worth it" is quite an
understatement as well. Sounds like you have a real speedster there, too.
Good luck, and I know you will have a lot of fun with this one.

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Sent: October 13, 2001 5:12 PM
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Subject: Rebel "652" Flies


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Hi Guys and Gals. Well the big day was to-day. My wife Olga and I got up at
6:30 A.M. to the sight of heavy overcast and light rain. But because the
weather report had said Sat. was going to be sunny with cloudy periods (and
they're never wrong) it was off to the airport. (St.Catharines CYSN). By the
time I washed the airplane the weather was clearing somewhat. We have the
Air Cadets glider training here both spring and fall and if they were
willing to pull out the gliders and tow plane then it must be O.K. My only
problem was they use the infield grass which left me with 5,000 feet of hard
surface. Was this enough for my Rebel? I started up and made the appropriate
radio calls, taxied and backtracked runway 24 to the end. Having a rebuilt
engine I did not want to run it long at a low power setting so I had began
an immediate taxi on start up. I swung around, did a quick run-up and mag
check, released the brakes and hit the throttle--WOW-I was airborne before
the tach. hit 2300 RPM. At mid point of the runway I was passing thru 500 ft
and started my turn out at 1300 ft (circuit ht.) and had not even reached
the end of the runway. This was going to be a fun ride. I leveled off at
2500 to cruise around for a while to try and break in the engine properly.
but maintaining full power was taking me past the aircrafts vne of 150
mph.Besides I had to back off the power do to all temps approaching
redlines. At 2300 r.p.m. things started settling down where I could also.I
maintained this altitude through out most of my 1.4 hr flight throttling up
to full power as often and as long as I could. After about an hour temps
started to drop indicating ring seating was taking place. Now was the time
for my prep for landing. A couple of power off stalls with and without flaps
gave me some indication of where I should not be on landing and off we went
back to the circuit. By the way, in all this time I was within gliding
distance and contact with the tower. Very helpful people. My landing was my
first and second in a Rebel. In fact the tower said as I was taxiing off
(well it looks like you still have all the parts you left with so it must
have been a successful 1st. flight.) Basically the Rebel flew hands off. I
did not off-set the fin and I did have to hold right rudder some what, looks
like a trim tab coming up.-opps what will it do to my cruise.(at 2300 rpm
the indicated cruise was 140 mph.) What an airplane-My Rebel empty weight is
978 lb with an O320 H2AD 160 HP supporting a 74" 58"pitch (38 lb) Sensenich
prop and I did not cut the firewall back. My empty C. of G. is 11.14". As is
often said--Keep at it- it really is worth it. I had more people inquiring
about this airplane to-day then you could imagine. Even the tow plane pilots
where making inquiries through the tower shortly after my 1st. take off. I
guess you can tell I am REAL EXCITED.


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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
CONGRATS BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do I need to bring a crow bar down to pry the grin off your face???

Really great to hear about another successful test flight with an
O-320/metal prop on an "original" firewall position, and judging from the
tower comments, sounds like a great place to fly out of!

That cruise speed must come from that spinner I sold you! Seriously, it
would be great to see that kind of speed but I think you A/S indicator MIGHT
be reading about 10 to 15 MPH fast. (XWI at 2450 does about 120/125 on 150HP
with the same model Sensenich, but 56 pitch) What speed indicated did it
seem to stall at and did you have a chance to verify speeds by GPS (I doubt
it if staying in an orbit above CYSN). Hopefully I'm wrong, since you gear
is faired up etc, but it does seem fast compared to my own rebel that also
has faired gear, etc.!

Glad to hear you being "smart" about the immediate flight with the fresh
engine. This is an imperative thing to do for longevity of the engine but
takes a brave man that is sure about his final aircraft assembly to carry
out the task, without doing some playing on the ground first! Sounds like
the tower confirmed for you that you had all the bolts in place!

Remember, keep your "across the fence" landing speed above 60MPH and let it
settle in ground effect until you get confortable with it, so you don't drop
it in. If it "ballons" on you hit FULL power and go around! Don't try to
salvage these "ballon" landings until you get used to the exact amount of
power it needs to hold it off just enough to settle back down nice and
smooth. It takes a LOT more power than most would think and it needs it
IMMEDIATELY. You can't take the time to think about it like when balloning a
C172, it must be an immediate, subconcious reaction.

Everyone take note that another "centered" fin works great. I have found the
ones with the new 3/4" recommendation fly in a slip all the time and require
constant LEFT rudder, otherwise the TC ball is a full ball width to the left
of center.

Congrats again!
Wayne

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From: "B&O Johnson" <ob.johnson@sympatico.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 8:11 PM
Subject: Rebel "652" Flies


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Hi Guys and Gals. Well the big day was to-day. My wife Olga and I got up
at
6:30 A.M. to the sight of heavy overcast and light rain. But because the
weather report had said Sat. was going to be sunny with cloudy periods
(and
they're never wrong) it was off to the airport. (St.Catharines CYSN). By
the
time I washed the airplane the weather was clearing somewhat. We have the
Air Cadets glider training here both spring and fall and if they were
willing to pull out the gliders and tow plane then it must be O.K. My only
problem was they use the infield grass which left me with 5,000 feet of
hard
surface. Was this enough for my Rebel? I started up and made the
appropriate
radio calls, taxied and backtracked runway 24 to the end. Having a rebuilt
engine I did not want to run it long at a low power setting so I had began
an immediate taxi on start up. I swung around, did a quick run-up and mag
check, released the brakes and hit the throttle--WOW-I was airborne before
the tach. hit 2300 RPM. At mid point of the runway I was passing thru 500
ft
and started my turn out at 1300 ft (circuit ht.) and had not even reached
the end of the runway. This was going to be a fun ride. I leveled off at
2500 to cruise around for a while to try and break in the engine
properly.
but maintaining full power was taking me past the aircrafts vne of 150
mph.Besides I had to back off the power do to all temps approaching
redlines. At 2300 r.p.m. things started settling down where I could also.I
maintained this altitude through out most of my 1.4 hr flight throttling
up
to full power as often and as long as I could. After about an hour temps
started to drop indicating ring seating was taking place. Now was the time
for my prep for landing. A couple of power off stalls with and without
flaps
gave me some indication of where I should not be on landing and off we
went
back to the circuit. By the way, in all this time I was within gliding
distance and contact with the tower. Very helpful people. My landing was
my
first and second in a Rebel. In fact the tower said as I was taxiing off
(well it looks like you still have all the parts you left with so it must
have been a successful 1st. flight.) Basically the Rebel flew hands off. I
did not off-set the fin and I did have to hold right rudder some what,
looks
like a trim tab coming up.-opps what will it do to my cruise.(at 2300 rpm
the indicated cruise was 140 mph.) What an airplane-My Rebel empty weight
is
978 lb with an O320 H2AD 160 HP supporting a 74" 58"pitch (38 lb)
Sensenich
prop and I did not cut the firewall back. My empty C. of G. is 11.14". As
is
often said--Keep at it- it really is worth it. I had more people inquiring
about this airplane to-day then you could imagine. Even the tow plane
pilots
where making inquiries through the tower shortly after my 1st. take off. I
guess you can tell I am REAL EXCITED.


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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by Bob Patterson
Congratulations, Bob !!!!

Sounds like your ASI might be a bit high, but that IS a
cruise pitch prop, and the air's cool .... What was the indicated
stall speed ?

She really looks good in the photos ! Looking forward to
having you fly in for the next builders meeting on Nov. 11th !
(Tom Inglis flew HIS new Rebel in for the last meeting - this
could be a GREAT trend - a new Rebel flying for each meeting !!!! :-) )

You're going to have a lot of fun with that Rebel !! Might
have to throttle back to fly with the rest of us on the Rebel Ramble,
though !! ;-) You ARE coming next year, aren't you ??!!
(And in '03, we'll do a BIG one and dip a toe in EACH ocean ! :-) )

....bobp

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Hi Guys and Gals. Well the big day was to-day. My wife Olga and I got up at
6:30 A.M. to the sight of heavy overcast and light rain. But because the
weather report had said Sat. was going to be sunny with cloudy periods (and
they're never wrong) it was off to the airport. (St.Catharines CYSN). By the
time I washed the airplane the weather was clearing somewhat. We have the
Air Cadets glider training here both spring and fall and if they were
willing to pull out the gliders and tow plane then it must be O.K. My only
problem was they use the infield grass which left me with 5,000 feet of hard
surface. Was this enough for my Rebel? I started up and made the appropriate
radio calls, taxied and backtracked runway 24 to the end. Having a rebuilt
engine I did not want to run it long at a low power setting so I had began
an immediate taxi on start up. I swung around, did a quick run-up and mag
check, released the brakes and hit the throttle--WOW-I was airborne before
the tach. hit 2300 RPM. At mid point of the runway I was passing thru 500 ft
and started my turn out at 1300 ft (circuit ht.) and had not even reached
the end of the runway. This was going to be a fun ride. I leveled off at
2500 to cruise around for a while to try and break in the engine properly.
but maintaining full power was taking me past the aircrafts vne of 150
mph.Besides I had to back off the power do to all temps approaching
redlines. At 2300 r.p.m. things started settling down where I could also.I
maintained this altitude through out most of my 1.4 hr flight throttling up
to full power as often and as long as I could. After about an hour temps
started to drop indicating ring seating was taking place. Now was the time
for my prep for landing. A couple of power off stalls with and without flaps
gave me some indication of where I should not be on landing and off we went
back to the circuit. By the way, in all this time I was within gliding
distance and contact with the tower. Very helpful people. My landing was my
first and second in a Rebel. In fact the tower said as I was taxiing off
(well it looks like you still have all the parts you left with so it must
have been a successful 1st. flight.) Basically the Rebel flew hands off. I
did not off-set the fin and I did have to hold right rudder some what, looks
like a trim tab coming up.-opps what will it do to my cruise.(at 2300 rpm
the indicated cruise was 140 mph.) What an airplane-My Rebel empty weight is
978 lb with an O320 H2AD 160 HP supporting a 74" 58"pitch (38 lb) Sensenich
prop and I did not cut the firewall back. My empty C. of G. is 11.14". As is
often said--Keep at it- it really is worth it. I had more people inquiring
about this airplane to-day then you could imagine. Even the tow plane pilots
where making inquiries through the tower shortly after my 1st. take off. I
guess you can tell I am REAL EXCITED.


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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Bob, read your first flight note again and noticed you had to hold a little
right rudder. If that's the case just shorten the right rudder tension
spring about a loop at a time, or drill another hole in the bath tub fitting
just forward of the original one so it pulls a little harder than the left
one until it flies "ball centered". Better way to fix than adding a draggy
trim tab! I have a feeling that, if you lift the tailwheel off the ground,
you will find that your pedal springs are pulling left rudder and you are
just making up for it by pushing right rudder!! Next time you fly it look
back (if you have rear skylights) and see if the rudder tip is aligned with
the forward edge of the fin when holding the required rudder pressure. If
it's aligned your fin position selection was correct and it is just one
pedal spring overpowering the other.

Wayne

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From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel "652" Flies


Everyone take note that another "centered" fin works great. I have found
the
ones with the new 3/4" recommendation fly in a slip all the time and
require
constant LEFT rudder, otherwise the TC ball is a full ball width to the
left
of center.

Congrats again!
Wayne



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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by Murray & Carol
This is exciting. Good to hear from you.Congratulations!

I am still riveting. Just finished the floor channels.
Seemed to take a long time.Clamp,drill,remove,debur,clean,chromate,rivet,
clamp,drill,remove,clamp,back-drill,reclamp.drill to #30,etc.etc,. On to the
firewall, feels like progress again.

Good luck to all

Murray Cherkas
REBEL 505




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Rebel "652" Flies

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm
by Rick Harper
CONGRATS from below !!! (Australia)

Isn't it just such a hoot to finally get your bird flying !!!! :-)

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R

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Hi Guys and Gals. Well the big day was to-day. My wife Olga and I got up
at
6:30 A.M. to the sight of heavy overcast and light rain. But because the
weather report had said Sat. was going to be sunny with cloudy periods
(and
they're never wrong) it was off to the airport. (St.Catharines CYSN). By
the
time I washed the airplane the weather was clearing somewhat. We have the
Air Cadets glider training here both spring and fall and if they were
willing to pull out the gliders and tow plane then it must be O.K. My only
problem was they use the infield grass which left me with 5,000 feet of
hard
surface. Was this enough for my Rebel? I started up and made the
appropriate
radio calls, taxied and backtracked runway 24 to the end. Having a rebuilt
engine I did not want to run it long at a low power setting so I had began
an immediate taxi on start up. I swung around, did a quick run-up and mag
check, released the brakes and hit the throttle--WOW-I was airborne before
the tach. hit 2300 RPM. At mid point of the runway I was passing thru 500
ft
and started my turn out at 1300 ft (circuit ht.) and had not even reached
the end of the runway. This was going to be a fun ride. I leveled off at
2500 to cruise around for a while to try and break in the engine
properly.
but maintaining full power was taking me past the aircrafts vne of 150
mph.Besides I had to back off the power do to all temps approaching
redlines. At 2300 r.p.m. things started settling down where I could also.I
maintained this altitude through out most of my 1.4 hr flight throttling
up
to full power as often and as long as I could. After about an hour temps
started to drop indicating ring seating was taking place. Now was the time
for my prep for landing. A couple of power off stalls with and without
flaps
gave me some indication of where I should not be on landing and off we
went
back to the circuit. By the way, in all this time I was within gliding
distance and contact with the tower. Very helpful people. My landing was
my
first and second in a Rebel. In fact the tower said as I was taxiing off
(well it looks like you still have all the parts you left with so it must
have been a successful 1st. flight.) Basically the Rebel flew hands off. I
did not off-set the fin and I did have to hold right rudder some what,
looks
like a trim tab coming up.-opps what will it do to my cruise.(at 2300 rpm
the indicated cruise was 140 mph.) What an airplane-My Rebel empty weight
is
978 lb with an O320 H2AD 160 HP supporting a 74" 58"pitch (38 lb)
Sensenich
prop and I did not cut the firewall back. My empty C. of G. is 11.14". As
is
often said--Keep at it- it really is worth it. I had more people inquiring
about this airplane to-day then you could imagine. Even the tow plane
pilots
where making inquiries through the tower shortly after my 1st. take off. I
guess you can tell I am REAL EXCITED.


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