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Wayne, I noticed in one of your float pictures in the archives that you had
mirrors mounted on the floats, presumably to check for wheels up and down. I
was just wondering where you got these. Can they be found at a local
Canadian Tire or some truck shop? I would like to do mine so I can visually
confirm each wheel up or down prior to landings.




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Walter, the mirrors on the amphib that I sold were oval convex mirrors that
are available at Canadian Tire. About 8" x 5". When positioned in the right
place you can see the main wheel hanging down and by putting your head back
over your seat and looking in the mirror you can see the nose wheel in the
down position. Your passenger can do the same for you on their side or if by
yourself you can assume that if you CAN'T see 2 wheels in the mirror on the
passenger side and the pilot side nose wheel is up where you can clearly see
it, then you are alright for a water landing. If worried something is wrong
you can undo your harness and slip over to the passenger seat and have alook
for yourself. Once in the right place there is double face tape on the backs
of the mirrors, but you will also want to put silicon or similar all the way
around to hold it firmly in place.

Howard has been flying for 4 summers without any indicators or mirrors. You
will find once you get used to the aircraft that you can count the strokes
required to retract and extend the gear, along with the pressure indication
(spikes) as each cylinder locks into position. If it is taking longer than
usual you probably have a leak somewhere. If this happens you can look out
both sides to see if the nose wheels are up as they are what will flip you
in the water!

When you have everything hooked up, make sure you block the floats and do
about 20 retract test to make sure everything is working smoothly. 100 to
150 psi is all that you should see with everything locked down, but on you
last test pull her up to about 280/300psi and leave it there, to make sure
nothing is going to blow apart on you while flying the thing.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@home.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:09 PM
Subject: Mirrors for floats


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Wayne, I noticed in one of your float pictures in the archives that you

had

mirrors mounted on the floats, presumably to check for wheels up and down.

I

was just wondering where you got these. Can they be found at a local
Canadian Tire or some truck shop? I would like to do mine so I can

visually

confirm each wheel up or down prior to landings.

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Thanks again, Wayne for that great information. Next week I'm on vacation,
and may try to do the final mounting then. I'm also trying to line up an
instructor to get my float endorsement on the Rebel. If I can't, though, I
will likely hold off and stay flying on wheels a bit longer. I assume you
need that rating to fly an amphib even if you stay off the water.

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From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: July 26, 2001 5:21 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Mirrors for floats


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Walter, the mirrors on the amphib that I sold were oval convex mirrors that
are available at Canadian Tire. About 8" x 5". When positioned in the right
place you can see the main wheel hanging down and by putting your head back
over your seat and looking in the mirror you can see the nose wheel in the
down position. Your passenger can do the same for you on their side or if by
yourself you can assume that if you CAN'T see 2 wheels in the mirror on the
passenger side and the pilot side nose wheel is up where you can clearly see
it, then you are alright for a water landing. If worried something is wrong
you can undo your harness and slip over to the passenger seat and have alook
for yourself. Once in the right place there is double face tape on the backs
of the mirrors, but you will also want to put silicon or similar all the way
around to hold it firmly in place.

Howard has been flying for 4 summers without any indicators or mirrors. You
will find once you get used to the aircraft that you can count the strokes
required to retract and extend the gear, along with the pressure indication
(spikes) as each cylinder locks into position. If it is taking longer than
usual you probably have a leak somewhere. If this happens you can look out
both sides to see if the nose wheels are up as they are what will flip you
in the water!

When you have everything hooked up, make sure you block the floats and do
about 20 retract test to make sure everything is working smoothly. 100 to
150 psi is all that you should see with everything locked down, but on you
last test pull her up to about 280/300psi and leave it there, to make sure
nothing is going to blow apart on you while flying the thing.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@home.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:09 PM
Subject: Mirrors for floats


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Wayne, I noticed in one of your float pictures in the archives that you

had

mirrors mounted on the floats, presumably to check for wheels up and down.

I

was just wondering where you got these. Can they be found at a local
Canadian Tire or some truck shop? I would like to do mine so I can

visually

confirm each wheel up or down prior to landings.

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My personal opinion is that it's just a retractable gear aircraft <IF> you
stick to pavement only, also the opinion with <SOME> of the individuals at
Transport Canada. Your insurance company and others at Transport are sure to
have a different opinion of that though, so be cautious and govern yourself
accordingly! A phone call to your local Transport Office might clear things
up on that issue (or turn then to mud) who knows.

Wayne

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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Mirrors for floats


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Thanks again, Wayne for that great information. Next week I'm on vacation,
and may try to do the final mounting then. I'm also trying to line up an
instructor to get my float endorsement on the Rebel. If I can't, though, I
will likely hold off and stay flying on wheels a bit longer. I assume you
need that rating to fly an amphib even if you stay off the water.

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From: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com [mailto:murphy-rebel@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: July 26, 2001 5:21 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Mirrors for floats

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Walter, the mirrors on the amphib that I sold were oval convex mirrors

that

are available at Canadian Tire. About 8" x 5". When positioned in the

right

place you can see the main wheel hanging down and by putting your head

back

over your seat and looking in the mirror you can see the nose wheel in the
down position. Your passenger can do the same for you on their side or if

by

yourself you can assume that if you CAN'T see 2 wheels in the mirror on

the

passenger side and the pilot side nose wheel is up where you can clearly

see

it, then you are alright for a water landing. If worried something is

wrong

you can undo your harness and slip over to the passenger seat and have

alook

for yourself. Once in the right place there is double face tape on the

backs

of the mirrors, but you will also want to put silicon or similar all the

way

around to hold it firmly in place.

Howard has been flying for 4 summers without any indicators or mirrors.

You

will find once you get used to the aircraft that you can count the strokes
required to retract and extend the gear, along with the pressure

indication

(spikes) as each cylinder locks into position. If it is taking longer than
usual you probably have a leak somewhere. If this happens you can look out
both sides to see if the nose wheels are up as they are what will flip you
in the water!

When you have everything hooked up, make sure you block the floats and do
about 20 retract test to make sure everything is working smoothly. 100 to
150 psi is all that you should see with everything locked down, but on you
last test pull her up to about 280/300psi and leave it there, to make sure
nothing is going to blow apart on you while flying the thing.

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

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From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@home.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:09 PM
Subject: Mirrors for floats

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Wayne, I noticed in one of your float pictures in the archives that you

had

mirrors mounted on the floats, presumably to check for wheels up and

down.

I

was just wondering where you got these. Can they be found at a local
Canadian Tire or some truck shop? I would like to do mine so I can

visually

confirm each wheel up or down prior to landings.

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