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Chances are you don't even need the front stops if you mounted the tracks
per the manual. The seat can't go off the front before the release lever
hits the control column.

Now if you've moved the seat rails back that's another story and you can
just put a small hole horizontally thru the rail web section and install a
safety pin over the rail and it will stop the seat from coming off the
rails. Another option is to drill/tap for an AN3 bolt and spacer,
vertically, into the top of the rail for stops. Mine have held up well for
16 years now.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Breitbach" <rebel@tbreitbach.de>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Seat Rails and Seat Stops

Hello,

I am currently installing the seat rails in my rebel.
According to the manual there have to be seat stops (SA-35) with a size
of 3/4" at the front (to be fixed with AN3 bolts).
If I fabricate my seat stops with the recommended size in 3/4 " the
first bolt hole in the rails will be useless, since the bolts can no
more reach it.

So I see two alternatives:
1 - fabricating the stops with a length of 1/2", so that the bolts when
putting the seat in front can just fit in or
2- leaving the first bolt hole useless

I would prefer option 1 but I fear the seat stop will be to small and
may break.

My question is, how did you solve this? Did somebody encounter the same
issues?



Thomas
433R



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Thomas,

I'm sorry I don't quite understand your issue. As usual, Wayne "gets it"
but I don't. :-(

Anyway, I did my stops pretty much per the manual, with -3 machine screws
tapped all the way through the top floor. See the photos at
http://n254mr.com/node/1332, http://n254mr.com/node/1402 and
http://n254mr.com/node/1527 on my web site. Perhaps one of those will help.

Ron


On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Thomas Breitbach <rebel@tbreitbach.de>wrote:

Hello,

I am currently installing the seat rails in my rebel.
According to the manual there have to be seat stops (SA-35) with a size
of 3/4" at the front (to be fixed with AN3 bolts).
If I fabricate my seat stops with the recommended size in 3/4 " the
first bolt hole in the rails will be useless, since the bolts can no
more reach it.

So I see two alternatives:
1 - fabricating the stops with a length of 1/2", so that the bolts when
putting the seat in front can just fit in or
2- leaving the first bolt hole useless

I would prefer option 1 but I fear the seat stop will be to small and
may break.

My question is, how did you solve this? Did somebody encounter the same
issues?



Thomas
433R

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Ron,

this is hard to understand without a picture. I uploaded one showing my
problem under

http://www.tbreitbach.de/SeatRail.jpg

This probably best explains my question. The fabricated seat stop in
this picture is 3/4 " (as denoted by the manual).

Thomas
433R



Am 06.01.2012 20:28, schrieb Ron Shannon:

Thomas,

I'm sorry I don't quite understand your issue. As usual, Wayne "gets it"
but I don't. :-(

Anyway, I did my stops pretty much per the manual, with -3 machine screws
tapped all the way through the top floor. See the photos at
http://n254mr.com/node/1332, http://n254mr.com/node/1402 and
http://n254mr.com/node/1527 on my web site. Perhaps one of those will help.

Ron


On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Thomas Breitbach<rebel@tbreitbach.de>wrote:

Hello,

I am currently installing the seat rails in my rebel.
According to the manual there have to be seat stops (SA-35) with a size
of 3/4" at the front (to be fixed with AN3 bolts).
If I fabricate my seat stops with the recommended size in 3/4 " the
first bolt hole in the rails will be useless, since the bolts can no
more reach it.

So I see two alternatives:
1 - fabricating the stops with a length of 1/2", so that the bolts when
putting the seat in front can just fit in or
2- leaving the first bolt hole useless

I would prefer option 1 but I fear the seat stop will be to small and
may break.

My question is, how did you solve this? Did somebody encounter the same
issues?



Thomas
433R

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Aha, that does help! :-)

Unless you're very short, I wouldn't worry about being able to use that
front end hole on the rail. FWIW, I'm 5 ft. 10 in. tall and would never
need to be that far forward. Stick with the 3/4" wide stop and "don't
worry, be happy!" :-)

Ron


On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Thomas Breitbach <rebel@tbreitbach.de>wrote:

Ron,

this is hard to understand without a picture. I uploaded one showing my
problem under

http://www.tbreitbach.de/SeatRail.jpg

This probably best explains my question. The fabricated seat stop in
this picture is 3/4 " (as denoted by the manual).

Thomas
433R

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Thanks, that's what I will do.
Being 6'3" I will probably never need it, but my wife will :-)
It always renders me uncertain, if something is so useless as the front
end hole.

Thomas

Am 07.01.2012 00:36, schrieb Ron Shannon:

Aha, that does help! :-)

Unless you're very short, I wouldn't worry about being able to use that
front end hole on the rail. FWIW, I'm 5 ft. 10 in. tall and would never
need to be that far forward. Stick with the 3/4" wide stop and "don't
worry, be happy!" :-)

Ron

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