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Scott 3200

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
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FWIW, my Scott 3200 has always required a little extra momentum (read speed
and quick brake application) to get it to kick out. After 5 1/2 years (about
300 hours of use, which would amount to at least 1200 kick outs on my strip)
it kicks some what easier but still doesn't kick really easy, which is a
GOOD THING in my opinion! When pushing my Rebel around by hand, on gravel,
the tail wheel will still not kick out unless you push down on the tailcone
(and sideways at the same time) in a quick shove (at this point it is
definitely a pain in the ass!)

One big reason that the Scott doesn't kick as easy on the Rebel, as other
aircraft that use it, is because of the tail weight or should I say lack of
it on a Rebel. The tail weight on most Rebels is only in the 50 to 60 pound
range. I threw my back out last winter when I went to help my neighbour lift
his North Star (super cub clone) tail around for him. Just thought I would
grab it and throw it around like my Rebel, while he got in. I grabbed the
tail to lift it up and instead I went down into the snow. He then helped on
the other side and I know we were both lifting more than 70 pounds a piece!

Regards,
Wayne G. O'Shea
www.irishfield.on.ca

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <apat@istar.ca>
To: "Murphy Rebel Builders List" <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Rebel Questions

Hi Jim !

It's not unusual to take quite a while to break in the Scott
tailwheels - it's not just the hours, it's the number of times it
gets 'cycled' ... but it could take up to 100 hrs to really loosen
up.

Maybe you should take it off & clamp it in a vise to break
it loose several times to wear it a bit. It <does> sound a bit
tougher than usual, though. Is the support shaft completely vertical ??
Are you using the springs that Scott supply ? They do seem to
work better if the springs are a bit loose ... It might be that the
internal spring that locks it is a bit too strong - is there a
friendly AME you could have check it out ??

......bobp

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At 07:57 PM 2/16/01 +0000, you wrote:
<html><head></head><body>I've been having a swiveling tailwheel problem
too,
but not with Murphy's tailwheel. I have a new Scott 3200, which has been
pretty reluctant to break loose and swivel ever since I installed it.
I've
had the same model tailwheel on three previous planes, with no such
problem.
These all had quite a few hours on them before&nbsp; I got&nbsp; the
planes, so I was
hoping the new one would "break in" or loosen up after a few hours. I
have
25 hours and still have to crawl out and&nbsp; shove&nbsp; the plane
around
to get
into tight spots. (The ground handling is great for straight&nbsp;
taxiing,&nbsp; take
off and landing). I've tried low temp. grease, adjusting the tension on
the
springs, etc, but the thing still just turns to the steerable limits and
skids unless you physically kick it loose. I'm sure this is probably
putting
the kind of side loads on the tail section that have been causing cracks
& wrinkles. I did double up on the (Fus.30?) tail wrap, and don't see
any signs of stress yet. I don't see anything&nbsp; in the parts diagram
that&nbsp;
indicates any kind of&nbsp; internal adjustment.<br>
<br>
I'd appreciate any suggestions from anybody that's run into this problem
before<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Jim Callahan<br>
Rebel #180R<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Rick Harper wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:004401c09814$b0be4000$09020c3f@rjwh">
<div><font size="2"><em>G'day everyone from sunny Oz</em></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>Rick & Wendy Harper here with our Rebel
looking like
taking to the skies around</em></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>April(ish).&nbsp; We just received our December
issue of
the Rebel Rouser magazine</em></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>which has prompted the following
questions:</em></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WHO is going to take over
and
continue the running of the Rebel Rouser</em></font></div>
<div><em><font size="2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; magazine?&nbsp; I really
feel
this is a
vital service to many builders and personally have found many tips,
points
&
opinions very useful during our construction (items I might add quite
often
never heard of on the internet).</font></em></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size="2"><em>2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is the general
consensus from
all you flying Rebels out there in regards to ground
handling?</em></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>IE:&nbsp; What's the best way to go.&nbsp; Do
we
fit some
of Gordon Mohr's recessing handles into the tail section or do we make up
some
sort of clamping steering handle for the tailwheel?&nbsp; We would love
to
know
YOUR opinions.</em></font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size="2"><em>3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Drew Dalgleish states in
his
letter
"I use the MAM stock tailwheel with my Rebel which I have heard a lot of
people
criticise.&nbsp; I did the return release mod. and it works absolutely
great for
me".</em></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>WHAT THE HELL IS THE TURN RELEASE
MOD?</em></font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size="2"><em>All opinions and advice gratefully
received.</em></font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size="2"><em>Rick & Wendy Harper...Rebel
541R</em></font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font size="2"><em>PS:&nbsp; Steve Sloan 536R asked in the Rouser
if
anyone
had fitted a tailwheel and spring</em></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><em>fairing...we have.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'll send you
some
pic's as
soon as I find WHERE I put 'em !</em></font></div>
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Scott 3200

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm
by Legeorgen
Sounds like the Rebel needs a little more weight in the tail. My Kitfox tail
weighs 59 lb. and it's only a 1200 lb. gross weight plane, and nose heavy at
that! All the more reason to hang a big heavy tail wheel, like a Scott, on
the end of your Rebel.

If your tail wheel brakes into a swivel to easily (like a Maule tail wheel)
you are more likely to ground loop your plane, especially when attempting a
cross wind landing and the wheel casters when you step on the rudder a little
to aggressively, then your plane becomes a weather vain...and around she goes.

Bruce 357R
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Scott 3200

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
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That's why I love the full swivel, non steer'able tail wheel on the UTVA's.
Spin around, pull forward to line up with the runway and lock the tail
wheel. Then you can "rudder" the thing to death without doing any mechanical
steering. Makes back tracking 10,000 foot runways a cinch also, as once you
are going straight it keeps going straight!

That said I think I should put one on the Rebel!!!

The Rebel's "light" tail is great for ski flying! No need for a tail ski.
Just push the stick forward and lift the tail out of the snow and taxi on
the mains. The other benefit of this, is when you are running out of landing
area you can haul back on the stick and use the tail wheel down in the snow
as a brake!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@cs.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Scott 3200

Sounds like the Rebel needs a little more weight in the tail. My Kitfox
tail
weighs 59 lb. and it's only a 1200 lb. gross weight plane, and nose heavy
at
that! All the more reason to hang a big heavy tail wheel, like a Scott, on
the end of your Rebel.

If your tail wheel brakes into a swivel to easily (like a Maule tail
wheel)
you are more likely to ground loop your plane, especially when attempting
a
cross wind landing and the wheel casters when you step on the rudder a
little
to aggressively, then your plane becomes a weather vain...and around she
goes.
Bruce 357R
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Scott 3200

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:46 pm
by Lonnie Benson
Does anyone have or know of a source for any literature on the installation,
care and feeding of Scott 3200 tail wheels?


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