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Wayne,

Spent some time going through the server logs this morning, and there are
4
addresses that my system keeps attempting to send/resend messages to...

oifa@irishfield.on.ca
doshea@georgianbayplastics.com

So here are yours... and Daryl's I assume. Anyway, both of yours being on
the same server I am seeing exactly the same thing... which is what's
strange. The log shows that the message was delivered and accepted, but
then the system attempts to resend the same message an hour later. I've
copied these log entries and sent them in to the developer for review.

schmidt@mtaonline.net
dazey@turbousa.com

Now these two at least make sense, since the message is not being accepted
correctly by their server, so they should be queued to resend. But...
they
are also both on the same server (not same as you, but same as each
other),
and they are the only list members on this server... so I would think
there
must be a problem with their server.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Okay.. so skip my last message Mike.. here is Jesse's coming for the
third
time from his smartphone

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends -
IMPORTANT !!!

I had an interference issue there and had to take out some additional
material from the angle. I can see how that could be a common occurance
since it is up to the builder to make that part and I have also noticed
that side to side rocking of the fuselage will cause that whole assembly
to
flex laterally. If the angle was in contact with the inner surface of the
strut fork, that might cause a failure. I'm not sure how to stop that
lateral flex. I was considering remaking the fittings that bolt to the
side
of the fin post (ts 3?) Out of steel.



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!
Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:39 pm


Okay.. so attachement at the "man made" end (vs factory made stab
attach).
Maybe they have an interference issue.. the attachment angle hasn't been
relieved enough and is bottoming in the fork just as the bolt makes the
hole. Or a bad tail spring set up with a lot of movement working the
angle/fork fitting. Maybe I should jump on a pressurized can and come
check
it out in person. I could use a pint of 6X from a good UK pub !!


Wayne

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Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!




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Thanks Mike.. I'll get Daryl to have a look from this end as well (at his
server in gbay plastics) when he gets back from holidays.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Repeat email

Wayne,

Spent some time going through the server logs this morning, and there are
4
addresses that my system keeps attempting to send/resend messages to...

oifa@irishfield.on.ca
doshea@georgianbayplastics.com

So here are yours... and Daryl's I assume. Anyway, both of yours being
on
the same server I am seeing exactly the same thing... which is what's
strange. The log shows that the message was delivered and accepted, but
then the system attempts to resend the same message an hour later. I've
copied these log entries and sent them in to the developer for review.

schmidt@mtaonline.net
dazey@turbousa.com

Now these two at least make sense, since the message is not being
accepted
correctly by their server, so they should be queued to resend. But...
they
are also both on the same server (not same as you, but same as each
other),
and they are the only list members on this server... so I would think
there
must be a problem with their server.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Okay.. so skip my last message Mike.. here is Jesse's coming for the
third
time from his smartphone

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends -
IMPORTANT !!!




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BTW... it's only certain senders that emails repeat from. My own have
never
repeated, nor Ken Lehman's, Nigel or others. The repeats come off Jesse,
Doug Farrow and Rick Greenwood mainly...and was curious if it was a
smartphone issue?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Repeat email

Thanks Mike.. I'll get Daryl to have a look from this end as well (at his
server in gbay plastics) when he gets back from holidays.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Davis" <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Repeat email

Wayne,

Spent some time going through the server logs this morning, and there
are
4
addresses that my system keeps attempting to send/resend messages to...

oifa@irishfield.on.ca
doshea@georgianbayplastics.com

So here are yours... and Daryl's I assume. Anyway, both of yours being
on
the same server I am seeing exactly the same thing... which is what's
strange. The log shows that the message was delivered and accepted, but
then the system attempts to resend the same message an hour later. I've
copied these log entries and sent them in to the developer for review.

schmidt@mtaonline.net
dazey@turbousa.com

Now these two at least make sense, since the message is not being
accepted
correctly by their server, so they should be queued to resend. But...
they
are also both on the same server (not same as you, but same as each
other),
and they are the only list members on this server... so I would think
there
must be a problem with their server.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends - IMPORTANT !!!




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Okay.. so skip my last message Mike.. here is Jesse's coming for the third
time from his smartphone

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends -
IMPORTANT !!!

I had an interference issue there and had to take out some additional
material from the angle. I can see how that could be a common occurance
since it is up to the builder to make that part and I have also noticed
that side to side rocking of the fuselage will cause that whole assembly
to
flex laterally. If the angle was in contact with the inner surface of the
strut fork, that might cause a failure. I'm not sure how to stop that
lateral flex. I was considering remaking the fittings that bolt to the
side
of the fin post (ts 3?) Out of steel.



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!
Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:39 pm


Okay.. so attachement at the "man made" end (vs factory made stab
attach).
Maybe they have an interference issue.. the attachment angle hasn't been
relieved enough and is bottoming in the fork just as the bolt makes the
hole. Or a bad tail spring set up with a lot of movement working the
angle/fork fitting. Maybe I should jump on a pressurized can and come
check
it out in person. I could use a pint of 6X from a good UK pub !!


Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Hi Wayne (and all)

The fork that broke was the lower end (fuselage end) on this latest one.
I'm
trying to find out more about the original event.

Aircraft was a 235 powered one so not excessive power as a cause.

Nig

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 15 August 2011 23:03
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Also curious... Nigel is it the upper attachement at the stab or the
lower
attachement at the tailspring angle that broke on these two UK birds??

I cleaned and inspected all of mine today with a "fine tooth comb". No
issues.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!




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Okay.. so skip my last message Mike.. here is Jesse's coming for the third
time from his smartphone

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends -
IMPORTANT !!!

I had an interference issue there and had to take out some additional
material from the angle. I can see how that could be a common occurance
since it is up to the builder to make that part and I have also noticed
that side to side rocking of the fuselage will cause that whole assembly
to
flex laterally. If the angle was in contact with the inner surface of the
strut fork, that might cause a failure. I'm not sure how to stop that
lateral flex. I was considering remaking the fittings that bolt to the
side
of the fin post (ts 3?) Out of steel.



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!
Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:39 pm


Okay.. so attachement at the "man made" end (vs factory made stab
attach).
Maybe they have an interference issue.. the attachment angle hasn't been
relieved enough and is bottoming in the fork just as the bolt makes the
hole. Or a bad tail spring set up with a lot of movement working the
angle/fork fitting. Maybe I should jump on a pressurized can and come
check
it out in person. I could use a pint of 6X from a good UK pub !!


Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Hi Wayne (and all)

The fork that broke was the lower end (fuselage end) on this latest one.
I'm
trying to find out more about the original event.

Aircraft was a 235 powered one so not excessive power as a cause.

Nig

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 15 August 2011 23:03
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Also curious... Nigel is it the upper attachement at the stab or the
lower
attachement at the tailspring angle that broke on these two UK birds??

I cleaned and inspected all of mine today with a "fine tooth comb". No
issues.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!




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Wildcat! Interactive Net Server is an application that runs on Windows...
it
is completely unaware of domain or active directory configurations. The
problem turned out to be the timing routine the SMTP module was using
while
waiting for the remote server to respond that the transfer was complete.

Hopefully we've got it fixed... shouldn't take long to know for sure. So
far since installing the update last night I am not seeing multiple
attempts
in the server logs... but there hasn't been much activity on the list
since
the update, so I'm not convinced yet. ;-)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of wang
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:08 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Repeat email

Mike are you running several servers with one perhaps being the "domain
controller"? I think this is where your problem might be, duplicates...

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]
Sent: August 17, 2011 11:35 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Repeat email

Wayne,

Spent some time going through the server logs this morning, and there are
4
addresses that my system keeps attempting to send/resend messages to...

oifa@irishfield.on.ca
doshea@georgianbayplastics.com

So here are yours... and Daryl's I assume. Anyway, both of yours being on
the same server I am seeing exactly the same thing... which is what's
strange. The log shows that the message was delivered and accepted, but
then the system attempts to resend the same message an hour later. I've
copied these log entries and sent them in to the developer for review.

schmidt@mtaonline.net
dazey@turbousa.com

Now these two at least make sense, since the message is not being accepted
correctly by their server, so they should be queued to resend. But...
they
are also both on the same server (not same as you, but same as each
other),
and they are the only list members on this server... so I would think
there
must be a problem with their server.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Okay.. so skip my last message Mike.. here is Jesse's coming for the
third
time from his smartphone

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork
ends -
IMPORTANT !!!

I had an interference issue there and had to take out some additional
material from the angle. I can see how that could be a common occurance
since it is up to the builder to make that part and I have also noticed
that side to side rocking of the fuselage will cause that whole assembly
to
flex laterally. If the angle was in contact with the inner surface of the
strut fork, that might cause a failure. I'm not sure how to stop that
lateral flex. I was considering remaking the fittings that bolt to the
side
of the fin post (ts 3?) Out of steel.



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!
Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:39 pm


Okay.. so attachement at the "man made" end (vs factory made stab
attach).
Maybe they have an interference issue.. the attachment angle hasn't been
relieved enough and is bottoming in the fork just as the bolt makes the
hole. Or a bad tail spring set up with a lot of movement working the
angle/fork fitting. Maybe I should jump on a pressurized can and come
check
it out in person. I could use a pint of 6X from a good UK pub !!


Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!




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