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[rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork

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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTAN

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:54 pm

Okay.. so skip my last message Mike.. here is Jesse's coming for the third
time from his smartphone

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:29 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends -
IMPORTANT !!!

I had an interference issue there and had to take out some additional
material from the angle. I can see how that could be a common occurance
since it is up to the builder to make that part and I have also noticed
that side to side rocking of the fuselage will cause that whole assembly to
flex laterally. If the angle was in contact with the inner surface of the
strut fork, that might cause a failure. I'm not sure how to stop that
lateral flex. I was considering remaking the fittings that bolt to the side
of the fin post (ts 3?) Out of steel.



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!
Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:39 pm


Okay.. so attachement at the "man made" end (vs factory made stab attach).
Maybe they have an interference issue.. the attachment angle hasn't been
relieved enough and is bottoming in the fork just as the bolt makes the
hole. Or a bad tail spring set up with a lot of movement working the
angle/fork fitting. Maybe I should jump on a pressurized can and come
check
it out in person. I could use a pint of 6X from a good UK pub !!

:O)
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Hi Wayne (and all)

The fork that broke was the lower end (fuselage end) on this latest one.
I'm
trying to find out more about the original event.

Aircraft was a 235 powered one so not excessive power as a cause.

Nig

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: 15 August 2011 23:03
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Also curious... Nigel is it the upper attachement at the stab or the
lower
attachement at the tailspring angle that broke on these two UK birds??

I cleaned and inspected all of mine today with a "fine tooth comb". No
issues.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Just took mine apart and checked them. Everything is still as snug and
solid
as when first installed, and no signs of any cracking.

Sure would like to know more about how two in the UK could have the same
problem. I don't think there are that many Rebels there.

I wonder if they were installed without proper alignment of the bottom
flange that attaches to the tail. If that is turned the wrong way, it
would
cause a pretty severe bending stress on the forks. But can't see a
builder
doing that without noticing....

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:11 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!

Just received a picture from Nig of the second broken fork from about 3
days

ago. It is broken on the exact same angle as the one shown in the AD
picture

Bob supplied. Also noted is the fork has a solid impression of the
washer
embedded in it suggesting it was really cranked down tight. I'm not even
sure how you get an AN3 bolt that tight without it snapping. The fork
break
looks very granular in nature leading me to beleive.. from a picture...
that

it had been cracked for some time and started to corrode. I'm wondering
if
the stab fitting is bottoming into the fork fitting making it rigid vs
being

able to rotate on the attachment bolt during severe flexing. All I know
for
sure is that I'll be out with a light and a magnifying glass on the
three
Rebels I have on site here today!

I have uploaded the photo to our website so you can view it as well for
comparison and so you know where to look on your own machine.

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/strutfork.jpg

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "rick greenwood" <rgreenwood@hotmail.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel tail strut fork ends - IMPORTANT !!!




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