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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

Keith,
I think the S-7 is a neat plane. Do you have Murphy floats that you may sell?
Thanks.
Jesse

Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:46:03 -0700
From: im_planecrazy@yahoo.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well everyone, I had a lapse in judgement and recently purchased a RANS S-7. This particular plane has been sitting in the same hangar as I kept my Champ when I had it on floats. ThisRotax 912 powered S-7 with 144 hrs. TT has been sitting for 11+ years without being flown. A group of fellow EEAer's and I got it all cleaned up and it started right up. I took it for its first flight in 11 years. Little bugger is a rocket ship compared to my Champ and 172. Needless to say I was impressed. The engine has an Extra Performance upgrade kit that supposedly makes it into a 95 HP Rotax.

Okay, now the question.....I have found a set of Full Lotus 1260 floats with amphib gear for a reasonable price, but personally think they may be a little small. I have also been looking at the Clamar floats and remember they were discussed on here awhile back. Anyone have anything good or bad to comment on Clamar's floats? I think I remember Wayne or someone saying they were heavy.

Still debating what I want to do with my Rebel's. Can't quite get myself talked into selling them as I still think the Rebel is one of the best planes out there that will fill my mission. In the meantime this little S-7 has stolen my heart.

Keith R661

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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

Jesse,
I have a damaged Rebel, a complete Rebel kit with some work done and also have a set of Murphy 1800 Amphibs. I haven't decided what I will do yet but I do know if I sell anything I will NOT sell the floats unless the planes are sold beforehand. Where I live, floats are almost an essential to have. I may try and sell everything as a group or just try and sell the planes as I have a list of guys wanting the floats.
Regards,
Keith

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: "Builders list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 11:39 AM

Keith,
I think the S-7 is a neat plane. Do you have Murphy floats that you may sell?
Thanks.
Jesse

[quote]Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:46:03 -0700
From: im_planecrazy@yahoo.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well everyone, I had a lapse in judgement and recently purchased a RANS S-7. This particular plane has been sitting in the same hangar as I kept my Champ when I had it on floats. ThisRotax 912 powered S-7 with 144 hrs. TT has been sitting for 11+ years without being flown. A group of fellow EEAer's and I got it all cleaned up and it started right up. I took it for its first flight in 11 years. Little bugger is a rocket ship compared to my Champ and 172. Needless to say I was impressed. The engine has an Extra Performance upgrade kit that supposedly makes it into a 95 HP Rotax.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

Hi Keith !

Have spoken to several S-7 builders in Ontario - there are 2 locals
that have Murphy 1500's, which they say are the best float for it, having
tried others. They said the Full Lotus 1260's are too small, and don't
perform nearly as well.

Have heard good things about the new Clamar 1450's, designed
for the LSA market ... don't know about the price. There's also
the new Zenair floats - completely redesigned - the old ones only
had TWO compartments !! No word yet on performance....

You might try your Murphy 1800A's - only a bit heavier ....
or, I could order you some 1500 straights - another order pending... ;-)
($11,096 incl. mounting gear & crating) :-)

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On Monday 11 July 2011 11:46:03 Keith Leitch wrote:

Well everyone, I had a lapse in judgement and recently purchased a RANS
S-7. This particular plane has been sitting in the same hangar as I kept
my Champ when I had it on floats. ThisRotax 912 powered S-7 with 144 hrs.
TT has been sitting for 11+ years without being flown. A group of fellow
EEAer's and I got it all cleaned up and it started right up. I took it for
its first flight in 11 years. Little bugger is a rocket ship compared to
my Champ and 172. Needless to say I was impressed. The engine has an Extra
Performance upgrade kit that supposedly makes it into a 95 HP Rotax.
Okay, now the question.....I have found a set of Full Lotus 1260 floats
with amphib gear for a reasonable price, but personally think they may be
a little small. I have also been looking at the Clamar floats and remember
they were discussed on here awhile back. Anyone have anything good or bad
to comment on Clamar's floats? I think I remember Wayne or someone saying
they were heavy.
Still debating what I want to do with my Rebel's. Can't quite get myself
talked into selling them as I still think the Rebel is one of the best
planes out there that will fill my mission. In the meantime this little
S-7 has stolen my heart.
Keith R661

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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

Hi Keith The early clamar floats were heavy but I think he has the weight down quite a bit by using carbon, kevlar and vacuum bagging his lay ups. They are really good quality but fairly pricey as well. Also I think the smallest model is about 2100 super cub size.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Leitch <im_planecrazy@yahoo.com>
Sender: mike.davis@dcsol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:46:03
To: Murphy Rebel Builders<rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Reply-to: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats

Well everyone, I had a lapse in judgement and recently purchased a RANS S-7. This particular plane has been sitting in the same hangar as I kept my Champ when I had it on floats. ThisRotax 912 powered

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

OK, thanks Keith.

Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:51:29 -0700
From: im_planecrazy@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Jesse,
I have a damaged Rebel, a complete Rebel kit with some work done and also have a set of Murphy 1800 Amphibs. I haven't decided what I will do yet but I do know if I sell anything I will NOT sell the floats unless the planes are sold beforehand. Where I live, floats are almost an essential to have. I may try and sell everything as a group or just try and sell the planes as I have a list of guys wanting the floats.
Regards,
Keith

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: "Builders list" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 11:39 AM

Keith,
I think the S-7 is a neat plane. Do you have Murphy floats that you may sell?
Thanks.
Jesse

Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:46:03 -0700
From: im_planecrazy@yahoo.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Well everyone, I had a lapse in judgement and recently purchased a RANS S-7. This particular plane has been sitting in the same hangar as I kept my Champ when I had it on floats. ThisRotax 912 powered S-7 with 144 hrs. TT has been sitting for 11+ years without being flown. A group of fellow EEAer's and I got it all cleaned up and it started right up. I took it for its first flight in 11 years. Little bugger is a rocket ship compared to my Champ and 172. Needless to say I was impressed. The engine has an Extra Performance upgrade kit that supposedly makes it into a 95 HP Rotax.

Okay, now the question.....I have found a set of Full Lotus 1260 floats with amphib gear for a reasonable price, but personally think they may be a little small. I have also been looking at the Clamar floats and remember they were discussed on here awhile back. Anyone have anything good or bad to comment on Clamar's floats? I think I remember Wayne or someone saying they were heavy.

Still debating what I want to do with my Rebel's. Can't quite get myself talked into selling them as I still think the Rebel is one of the best planes out there that will fill my mission. In the meantime this little S-7 has stolen my heart.

Keith R661

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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

Opps I forgot about the LSA floats even though I was with Clair when he was at Oshkosh negotiating with the guys that were going to buy dozens of sets ( I don't know how that turned out) If MAM could deliver a 1500 kit that would be my first choice but if you want to be on floats next summer go with the clamars.
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-----Original Message-----
From: drewjan@cabletv.on.ca
Sender: mike.davis@dcsol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:26:03
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Reply-to: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats

Hi Keith The early clamar floats were heavy but I think he has the weight down quite a bit by using carbon, kevlar and vacuum bagging his lay ups. They are really good quality but fairly pricey as well. Also I think the smallest model is about 2100 super cub size.
Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Leitch <im_planecrazy@yahoo.com>
Sender: mike.davis@dcsol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:46:03
To: Murphy Rebel Builders<rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Reply-to: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats

Well everyone, I had a lapse in judgement and recently purchased a RANS S-7. This particular plane has been sitting in the same hangar as I kept my Champ when I had it on floats. ThisRotax 912 powered

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

Drew,
I just got a qoute from Clamar. Are you sitting down? ..........$27,000CN !!!! Ouch! That is what I paid for the S-7 (well almost what I paid). Just a little on the expensive side thats for sure. Not sure how many they will sell at that price. I suspect they are a great float but this guy sure won't be finding out.
I agree on the Murphy floats being the first choice. I have corresponded with a gentleman there in Canada (Peter Cowan) that is the guru on Rans and his site lists the Murphy as a great choice.
Thank you,
Keith

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca> wrote:

From: drewjan@cabletv.on.ca <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 6:30 PM

Opps I forgot about the LSA floats even though I was with Clair when he was at Oshkosh negotiating with the guys that were going to buy dozens of sets ( I don't know how that turned out) If MAM could deliver a 1500 kit that would be my first choice but if you want to be on floats next summer go with the clamars.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:53 pm**

I'm not really surprised by that price. Building them is very labour intensive and materials are expensive. I figure my float built was roughly equivalent ro building two fuselages.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Leitch <im_planecrazy@yahoo.com>
Sender: mike.davis@dcsol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:32:11
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Reply-to: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats

Drew,
I just got a qoute from Clamar. Are you sitting down? ..........$27,000CN !!!! Ouch! That is what I paid for the S-7 (well almost what I paid). Just a little on the expensive side thats for sure. Not sure how many they will sell at that price. I suspect they are a great float but this guy sure won't be finding out.
I agree on the Murphy floats being the first choice. I have corresponded with a gentleman there in Canada (Peter Cowan) that is the guru on Rans and his site lists the Murphy as a great choice.
Thank you,
Keith

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca> wrote:

From: drewjan@cabletv.on.ca <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 6:30 PM

Opps I forgot about the LSA floats even though I was with Clair when he was at Oshkosh negotiating with the guys that were going to buy dozens of sets ( I don't know how that turned out) If MAM could deliver a 1500 kit that would be my first choice but if you want to be on floats next summer go with the clamars.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:54 pm**

You wouldn't want the bill from me for a set of Murphy's I guess Keith! ;O))

~500 hours of labour on top of the kit costs.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Leitch" <im_planecrazy@yahoo.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats

Drew,
I just got a qoute from Clamar. Are you sitting down? ..........$27,000CN
!!!! Ouch! That is what I paid for the S-7 (well almost what I paid). Just
a little on the expensive side thats for sure. Not sure how many they will
sell at that price. I suspect they are a great float but this guy sure
won't be finding out.
I agree on the Murphy floats being the first choice. I have corresponded
with a gentleman there in Canada (Peter Cowan) that is the guru on Rans
and his site lists the Murphy as a great choice.
Thank you,
Keith

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, drewjan@cabletv.on.ca <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca> wrote:

From: drewjan@cabletv.on.ca <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca>
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 6:30 PM

Opps I forgot about the LSA floats even though I was with Clair when he
was at Oshkosh negotiating with the guys that were going to buy dozens of
sets ( I don't know how that turned out) If MAM could deliver a 1500 kit
that would be my first choice but if you want to be on floats next summer
go with the clamars.
Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: drewjan@cabletv.on.ca
Sender: mike.davis@dcsol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:26:03
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Reply-to: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats

Hi Keith The early clamar floats were heavy but I think he has the weight
down quite a bit by using carbon, kevlar and vacuum bagging his lay ups.
They are really good quality but fairly pricey as well. Also I think the
smallest model is about 2100 super cub size.
Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Leitch <im_planecrazy@yahoo.com>
Sender: mike.davis@dcsol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:46:03
To: Murphy Rebel Builders<rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Reply-to: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Clamar Floats

Well everyone, I had a lapse in judgement and recently purchased a RANS
S-7. This particular plane has been sitting in the same hangar as I kept
my Champ when I had it on floats. ThisRotax 912 powered S-7 with 144 hrs.
TT has been sitting for 11+ years without being flown. A group of fellow
EEAer's and I got it all cleaned up and it started right up. I took it for
its first flight in 11 years. Little bugger is a rocket ship compared to
my Champ and 172. Needless to say I was impressed. The engine has an Extra
Performance upgrade kit that supposedly makes it into a 95 HP Rotax.

Okay, now the question.....I have found a set of Full Lotus 1260 floats
with amphib gear for a reasonable price, but personally think they may be
a little small. I have also been looking at the Clamar floats and remember
they were discussed on here awhile back. Anyone have anything good or bad
to comment on Clamar's floats? I think I remember Wayne or someone saying
they were heavy.

Still debating what I want to do with my Rebel's. Can't quite get myself
talked into selling them as I still think the Rebel is one of the best
planes out there that will fill my mission. In the meantime this little
S-7 has stolen my heart.

Keith R661

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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:54 pm**

Wayne,
WHAT!!! I thought friends were supposed to help each other out. I was hoping you were going to build me a set just so you would have something to do in your spare time! ;)