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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
Charlie... I've never got the originals back in since the paint job in 1995
!!

I've had the same 8 pins in since. Go to a welding supply house and get a
dozen 0.063 stainless TIG filler rods.

Wayne

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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Hello All

In reference to the Rebels "4 door metal cowl". Is there anything short of
normal wear and tear that will reduce the force and difficulty required to
thread the hinge pins in and out to open/close the cowl doors. I thought I
read that using a smaller dia. hinge pin would help?

Charlie E. 802R




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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Charles W. Boekhorst
Hi Charlie

I just recently found that apply silicone spray to the hine pin will help
this alot. it works better then oil because it will not wick out and end up
on your windscreen and make you think you have an oil leak.

Have a good one

Charles

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Subject: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Hello All

In reference to the Rebels "4 door metal cowl". Is there anything short of
normal wear and tear that will reduce the force and difficulty required to
thread the hinge pins in and out to open/close the cowl doors. I thought I
read that using a smaller dia. hinge pin would help?

Charlie E. 802R




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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by mtutt
Use a cordless drill with the end of the pin in the chuck and just drill it in or out
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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Charlie Eubanks
Wayne
I thought I had read to use a smaller wire somewhere. I guess it was one of
your replies to another builder. I happen to have some .062 steel rod (soft)
and it worked a lot better. Do you recommend a SS alloy type that is more
rigid then the other SS types ?


C.W. Boekhorst
I am sure the silicone works better but I have not painted my Rebel and
would not like to take the risk at this time.

Mtutt
I have been using the drill up to now but I have heard that eventually the
hinge rod may get loose and I will have to bend a hook on the end to keep
the rod from vibrating forward in too the prop.

Thanks Guys for all the good replies.

Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Charlie... I've never got the originals back in since the paint job in
1995
!!

I've had the same 8 pins in since. Go to a welding supply house and get a
dozen 0.063 stainless TIG filler rods.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Hello All

In reference to the Rebels "4 door metal cowl". Is there anything short
of
normal wear and tear that will reduce the force and difficulty required
to
thread the hinge pins in and out to open/close the cowl doors. I thought
I
read that using a smaller dia. hinge pin would help?

Charlie E. 802R




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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Wayne G. O'Shea
The SS bends pretty easy and gets out of shape.. but so far in 15+ years of
putting those pins in and out I haven't had one break. Straighten it out and
put it back in. The little "wiggles" help take the slop out of the
clearance!! LOL

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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Wayne
I thought I had read to use a smaller wire somewhere. I guess it was one
of
your replies to another builder. I happen to have some .062 steel rod
(soft)
and it worked a lot better. Do you recommend a SS alloy type that is more
rigid then the other SS types ?


C.W. Boekhorst
I am sure the silicone works better but I have not painted my Rebel and
would not like to take the risk at this time.

Mtutt
I have been using the drill up to now but I have heard that eventually the
hinge rod may get loose and I will have to bend a hook on the end to keep
the rod from vibrating forward in too the prop.

Thanks Guys for all the good replies.

Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Charlie... I've never got the originals back in since the paint job in
1995
!!

I've had the same 8 pins in since. Go to a welding supply house and get a
dozen 0.063 stainless TIG filler rods.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Hello All

In reference to the Rebels "4 door metal cowl". Is there anything short
of
normal wear and tear that will reduce the force and difficulty required
to
thread the hinge pins in and out to open/close the cowl doors. I thought
I
read that using a smaller dia. hinge pin would help?

Charlie E. 802R




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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Charles W. Boekhorst
Charlie

Finding away to secure the hine pin is important. im my 12 years in aircraft
maintenance i have seen hine pins that were nearly impossibly to install
vibrate out.

the slickest instlalation i have seen is making the pin slighly shorter then
the hinge and drilling the hing and placing a small cotter pin or lockwire
through the hole.

I finally got back to working on my Rebel today its been too long.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Wayne
I thought I had read to use a smaller wire somewhere. I guess it was one
of
your replies to another builder. I happen to have some .062 steel rod
(soft)
and it worked a lot better. Do you recommend a SS alloy type that is more
rigid then the other SS types ?


C.W. Boekhorst
I am sure the silicone works better but I have not painted my Rebel and
would not like to take the risk at this time.

Mtutt
I have been using the drill up to now but I have heard that eventually the
hinge rod may get loose and I will have to bend a hook on the end to keep
the rod from vibrating forward in too the prop.

Thanks Guys for all the good replies.

Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Charlie... I've never got the originals back in since the paint job in
1995
!!

I've had the same 8 pins in since. Go to a welding supply house and get a
dozen 0.063 stainless TIG filler rods.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Hello All

In reference to the Rebels "4 door metal cowl". Is there anything short
of
normal wear and tear that will reduce the force and difficulty required
to
thread the hinge pins in and out to open/close the cowl doors. I thought
I
read that using a smaller dia. hinge pin would help?

Charlie E. 802R




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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Dick Wampach
The RV people sell a pin with a welded "tab" on one end $6 to 8 each at
VANS. I added a nut plate into the cowl attach points and use a screw to
hold it in place, easy, sanitary, effective. Or just bend a "U" on the end
then the hut plate and screw.

Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW




-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charles W. Boekhorst
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin


Charlie

Finding away to secure the hine pin is important. im my 12 years in aircraft

maintenance i have seen hine pins that were nearly impossibly to install
vibrate out.

the slickest instlalation i have seen is making the pin slighly shorter then

the hinge and drilling the hing and placing a small cotter pin or lockwire
through the hole.

I finally got back to working on my Rebel today its been too long.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Wayne
I thought I had read to use a smaller wire somewhere. I guess it was
one
of
your replies to another builder. I happen to have some .062 steel rod
(soft)
and it worked a lot better. Do you recommend a SS alloy type that is more
rigid then the other SS types ?


C.W. Boekhorst
I am sure the silicone works better but I have not painted my Rebel
and would not like to take the risk at this time.

Mtutt
I have been using the drill up to now but I have heard that eventually
the hinge rod may get loose and I will have to bend a hook on the end
to keep the rod from vibrating forward in too the prop.

Thanks Guys for all the good replies.

Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Charlie... I've never got the originals back in since the paint job
in 1995 !!

I've had the same 8 pins in since. Go to a welding supply house and
get a dozen 0.063 stainless TIG filler rods.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Hello All

In reference to the Rebels "4 door metal cowl". Is there anything
short of normal wear and tear that will reduce the force and
difficulty required to
thread the hinge pins in and out to open/close the cowl doors. I thought
I
read that using a smaller dia. hinge pin would help?

Charlie E. 802R




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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by drewjan
I never liked how a pin works so I used 4 quarter turn camloc fasteners on each side.
Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Wampach <rwampach@att.net>
Sender: mike.davis@dcsol.com
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 17:46:27
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Reply-to: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

The RV people sell a pin with a welded "tab" on one end $6 to 8 each at
VANS. I added a nut plate into the cowl attach points and use a screw to
hold it in place, easy, sanitary, effective. Or just bend a "U" on the end
then the hut plate and screw.

Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW




-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Charles W. Boekhorst
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:11 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin


Charlie

Finding away to secure the hine pin is important. im my 12 years in aircraft

maintenance i have seen hine pins that were nearly impossibly to install
vibrate out.

the slickest instlalation i have seen is making the pin slighly shorter then

the hinge and drilling the hing and placing a small cotter pin or lockwire
through the hole.

I finally got back to working on my Rebel today its been too long.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Wayne
I thought I had read to use a smaller wire somewhere. I guess it was
one
of
your replies to another builder. I happen to have some .062 steel rod
(soft)
and it worked a lot better. Do you recommend a SS alloy type that is more
rigid then the other SS types ?


C.W. Boekhorst
I am sure the silicone works better but I have not painted my Rebel
and would not like to take the risk at this time.

Mtutt
I have been using the drill up to now but I have heard that eventually
the hinge rod may get loose and I will have to bend a hook on the end
to keep the rod from vibrating forward in too the prop.

Thanks Guys for all the good replies.

Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Charlie... I've never got the originals back in since the paint job
in 1995 !!

I've had the same 8 pins in since. Go to a welding supply house and
get a dozen 0.063 stainless TIG filler rods.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Eubanks" <rebel802@centurylink.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Hello All

In reference to the Rebels "4 door metal cowl". Is there anything
short of normal wear and tear that will reduce the force and
difficulty required to
thread the hinge pins in and out to open/close the cowl doors. I thought
I
read that using a smaller dia. hinge pin would help?

Charlie E. 802R




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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Ron Shannon
Me too. Works great. (See http://n254mr.com/node/1739)

Ron



On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca> wrote:
I never liked how a pin works so I used 4 quarter turn camloc fasteners on
each side.


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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Jesse Jenks
I vote for camlocs too. Mine turned out good that way

From: rshannon@cruzcom.com
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 22:57:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Me too. Works great. (See http://n254mr.com/node/1739)

Ron



On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca> wrote:
I never liked how a pin works so I used 4 quarter turn camloc fasteners on
each side.


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[rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Hank & Vickie Balch
I also put camlocs on my cowl and couldn't be happier. It takes only
seconds to open the cowl and check the engine.

Hank Balch
307R

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jesse Jenks <jessejenks@hotmail.com> wrote:
I vote for camlocs too. Mine turned out good that way

From: rshannon@cruzcom.com
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 22:57:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 4 door cowl hingpin
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Me too. Works great. (See http://n254mr.com/node/1739)

Ron



On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, <drewjan@cabletv.on.ca> wrote:
I never liked how a pin works so I used 4 quarter turn camloc fasteners
on
each side.


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