[rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation

[Jason Beall]

Ted,

I'm in the camp that a good quality, thick aviation carpet on the floor is good enough as heat/sound insulation. I also vote for foil-lined foam insulation on the inside of the firewall. Not sure insulation on doors and sidewalls does much on a small plane because a lot of noise comes from the resonance of the windows and windshield.

My 20 cents (adjusted for inflation),

-Jason


--- On Mon, 5/2/11, Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org> wrote:

[quote]From: Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:37 PM
Finally getting around to adding (or
at least thinking about doing
so--thinking about it counts...right?) sound/heat
insulation to my Moose.



I'm looking at one of three possible approaches.

[Ted Waltman]

Thank you for your note Jason. I think a wee bit of insulation for next
winter would be nice. In the Moose at least, there's no way to sound
insulate it <grin>. More for looks I guess.

I might not do much, as I really don't want to add too much weight. It's
not a Cirrus--it's a Moose!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Jason
Beall
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation

Ted,

I'm in the camp that a good quality, thick aviation carpet on the floor is
good enough as heat/sound insulation. I also vote for foil-lined foam
insulation on the inside of the firewall. Not sure insulation on doors and
sidewalls does much on a small plane because a lot of noise comes from the
resonance of the windows and windshield.

My 20 cents (adjusted for inflation),

-Jason


--- On Mon, 5/2/11, Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org> wrote:

[quote]From: Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:37 PM
Finally getting around to adding (or
at least thinking about doing
so--thinking about it counts...right?) sound/heat
insulation to my Moose.



I'm looking at one of three possible approaches.

[Mike Davis]

Ted,

For what it's worth, I plan to use Reflectix in mine. I haven't used it in
an airplane yet, but have used it in construction and other applications,
and am always amazed at how well it works.

It's basically just 1/4" bubble wrap that is foil faced on both sides. They
claim it reflects 90% of radiated heat. I like that it won't absorb and
hold water, and it is very, very light. I used it inside my basement walls,
and they went from really cold to the touch, to ambient air temperature...
big difference!

http://tinyurl.com/3p55x9b

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <ted@vafm.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation

Thank you for your note Jason. I think a wee bit of insulation for next
winter would be nice. In the Moose at least, there's no way to sound
insulate it <grin>. More for looks I guess.

I might not do much, as I really don't want to add too much weight. It's
not a Cirrus--it's a Moose!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Jason
Beall
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation

Ted,

I'm in the camp that a good quality, thick aviation carpet on the floor is
good enough as heat/sound insulation. I also vote for foil-lined foam
insulation on the inside of the firewall. Not sure insulation on doors and
sidewalls does much on a small plane because a lot of noise comes from the
resonance of the windows and windshield.

My 20 cents (adjusted for inflation),

-Jason


--- On Mon, 5/2/11, Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org> wrote:

From: Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:37 PM
Finally getting around to adding (or
at least thinking about doing
so--thinking about it counts...right?) sound/heat
insulation to my Moose.



I'm looking at one of three possible approaches. I'm
interested in learning
what others have done, what materials folks used, whether
they are happy
with their choice and what they would do differently next
time.



Thank you all in advance for your input/opinions.



I'm looking at products like:



. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/a ... ulator.php

.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/a ... fsheet.php



I'm thinking 1/4" to 3/8" (suggestion?) for
thickness. Then I'd most likely
put lightweight indoor-outdoor carpeting on top of this
foam using 3M
adhesive.



Something I can put on with 3M velcro and take out if I
want the extra
weight carrying capacity for more beer <g>.
Yep, can't add too much fancy
stuff because that cuts down on the beer capacity!



Ted







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[Bob Patterson]

Hi Mike !

I'll second and third that !! I've used this stuff in lots of aircraft !

It's light, easy to put in, with velcro patches or contact cement,
and really cuts noise & heat. Have used it as a core for a curtain
for the back of the baggage area on Rebel too - just glue on
some Naugahyde ....

I have used something similar, but in 1/2" thickness - great
for doors & headliners.... Most lumber supply places have
something similar.

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On May 3, 2011 11:36:42 am Mike Davis wrote:

Ted,

For what it's worth, I plan to use Reflectix in mine. I haven't used it in
an airplane yet, but have used it in construction and other applications,
and am always amazed at how well it works.

It's basically just 1/4" bubble wrap that is foil faced on both sides.
They claim it reflects 90% of radiated heat. I like that it won't absorb
and hold water, and it is very, very light. I used it inside my basement
walls, and they went from really cold to the touch, to ambient air
temperature... big difference!

http://tinyurl.com/3p55x9b

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <ted@vafm.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation

Thank you for your note Jason. I think a wee bit of insulation for next
winter would be nice. In the Moose at least, there's no way to sound
insulate it <grin>. More for looks I guess.

I might not do much, as I really don't want to add too much weight. It's
not a Cirrus--it's a Moose!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Jason
Beall
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:09 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation

Ted,

I'm in the camp that a good quality, thick aviation carpet on the floor
is good enough as heat/sound insulation. I also vote for foil-lined foam
insulation on the inside of the firewall. Not sure insulation on doors
and sidewalls does much on a small plane because a lot of noise comes
from the resonance of the windows and windshield.

My 20 cents (adjusted for inflation),

-Jason

--- On Mon, 5/2/11, Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org> wrote:

From: Ted Waltman <ted@vafm.org>
Subject: [rebel-builders] Interior sound/heat insulation
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:37 PM
Finally getting around to adding (or
at least thinking about doing
so--thinking about it counts...right?) sound/heat
insulation to my Moose.



I'm looking at one of three possible approaches. I'm
interested in learning
what others have done, what materials folks used, whether
they are happy
with their choice and what they would do differently next
time.



Thank you all in advance for your input/opinions.



I'm looking at products like:



. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/a ... ulator.php

.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/a ... fsheet.php



I'm thinking 1/4" to 3/8" (suggestion?) for
thickness. Then I'd most likely
put lightweight indoor-outdoor carpeting on top of this
foam using 3M
adhesive.



Something I can put on with 3M velcro and take out if I
want the extra
weight carrying capacity for more beer <g>.
Yep, can't add too much fancy
stuff because that cuts down on the beer capacity!



Ted

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