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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 08:53:00 -0800
From: schaumr@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Firewall material for Reb #786 (manufactured 2003-2004)?
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Hi All,

All this talk about firewalls has me wondering.....would a 2003-2004 kit
(#786) have been shipped to the US with a stainless or aluminum firewall? I
bought the kit from another builder so the firewall is already riveted on and I
don't have an official parts list. Is it stated in the manual, by chance? Easy
way to check?

Thanks,
Rob


On 8/1/2010 6:49 AM, kelly@tru-form.ca wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Thanks Dick, excellent point. I have a full bag of ss rivets from MAM and
the moose instructions have no reference to the firewall at all. So I will use
these and look over the regs.
->
-> Thanks
-> Kelly ( Moose )
-> kelly@tru-form.ca
-> Enjoy your day !
->
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: "Dick Wampach" <rwampach@att.net>
-> Sender: <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
-> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 07:03:17
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Firewall rivets
->
-> You fellows in Canada might want to try:
-> Rivets Unlimited (Toronto) Inc (905) 612-9220 2696 Slough Street
-> Mississauga, ON L4T 1G3
->
-> In the USA I got all of my unique hardware (big bolts half sized rivets etc)
-> from:
-> GENUINE A/C Parts, Paso Robles CA, 805-239-3169, 800-247-2738
-> www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com
->
-> I used hard, driven, SS rivets for most of my f/w work.
MS20615-4M4,
-> MS20615-4M5
->
-> The Firewall needs to be able to hold up to 2,000*F for 5 min per the regs.
-> Not a place for short cuts!
->
-> Dick Wampach SR-108 N331RW
->
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Kelly
-> M. Ewing
-> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:28 AM
-> To: MAM email list
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewall rivets
->
->
-> Thanks Ken, I think your right on the fire melting the aluminum ect. I'm
-> just not sure about the reaction of aluminum, stainless and galvanized.
->
-> Thanks
-> Kelly ( Moose )
-> kelly@tru-form.ca
-> Enjoy your day !
->
->
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
-> Sender: <mike.davis@dcsol.com>
-> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:54:29
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Reply-To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Firewall rivets
->
-> I'd vote for stainless. A fire barrier is only as strong as the weakest link
-> and aluminum will melt in seconds in a fuel fed fire. Some guys have said
-> the stainless pop rivets don't always retain the mandrel which could leave
-> them hollow but mine were OK. That said I did use some avex in non critical
-> places although perhaps should not have. But the entire firewall is fastened
-> to aluminum so there are limits to the advantages of a stainless rivet. BE61
-> stainless structural rivets could be used if someone is really picky. Ken
->
-> Kelly M. Ewing wrote:
-> > Looking to find out if the firewall rivets should be stainless or
-> > aluminum rivets
-> >
-> > Thanks
-> > Kelly ( Moose )
-> > kelly@tru-form.ca
-> > Enjoy your day !
-> >
->
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