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Here is what I have gotten off the list from the past. I buy mine from Mattic
(so did Murphy). If you ask them to mail them it shouldn't be expensive and
you are rarely charged cutoms at your end.


For more product information please click on the following link:

http://www.avdel-global.com/en/products ... /avex.html

Marie Nadeau
Inside Sales
Avdel Canada, a Division of Acument Canada Limited
87 Disco Road, Rexdale, Ontario, M9W 1M3
Direct: 416-679-9572
Phone: 416-679-0622
Toll Free: 1-800-268-9947
Fax: 416-679-0678

RV-1410 1/8" X 3/16"
RV-1414 1/8" X 5/16"
RV-1613 3/16" X 1/4"
RV-1619 3/16" X 3/8"
RV-1621 3/16" X 1/2"
RV-4412 1/8" X 3/16" COUNTERSUNK
RR-5404 1/8" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
RR-5406 1/8" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
RR-5604 3/16" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
RR-5606 3/16" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
RR-6403 1/8" X 3/16" CLOSED END (TYPICAL TANK RIVET)






On 7/26/2010 7:41 AM, caltrac wrote to All:

-> 7-26-10, Where is a supplier in the US for the "Avex" 1613, 1619,1410,
etc.
-> rivets. I've looked around no one can find those part numbers. tks




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On 7/27/2010 5:34 AM, khipp@99victor.com wrote to rebel-builders:
7-28-10, Big TKS there khipp@99victor, for the heads up re, rivets from
Spruce. Order done! Took 2min.
Mattic was 5 times as much, .30ea, qtys of 100ea, and $35 to ship to US,
unclear about rate of exchange, and a big "I dunno!" re, customs. He said
this is his "good day!". By the by never did waste time trying to locate rivet
info in 41 thousand messages. where it was first suggested I look.
The rivets will secure the skin we took off to repair a collapsed drag link
brace attachment on my '93 model. I must say that from what we saw
confirms that the landing gear is the weak point of the Rebel for rough fields
or hard landings. The supporting skin is only .020 and a doz or so 1/8" rivets
holding it all together. The inside floor rivets "lost their heads" allowing the
innere structure to "roll" and fail. Be a good thing to check ea preflight and
annual. Because all of the material in this area is .020 I'm afraid to beef-up
only the attach point area as this might cause more extensive damage than
just the bulkhead ends and deformed skin that can be repaired. The
previously owner had repaired the other side so we just followed his lead and
went in through the floor leaving a large inspection hole behind, alas because
of the .020 skin and the possibiltiy the floor provides some structural effort
cover must be riveted down not screwed. If I was building I would use better
than that, infact the later model's may have done so including the Elite. The
main gear attach is plenty tough just a mystery why the designer decided to
use the thin stuff on the rest of what makes up the gear box.
Again tks much. You saved me many bucks and aggravation.
...................................end............................................

-> AC Spruce sells the avex rivets--I think they just don't call em that in
-> the catalog. Here is a copy of a recent order
->
-> --------------------------------------------------------------------
-> * Order Confirmation *
->
-> Thank you for shopping at Aircraft Spruce. We are now processing your
-> order. Visit the Order Status section of your account
-> <http://www.aircraftspruce.com/orderdetail.php?
SOPT=D&CN=472451&ORN=637913>
-> to view your order details and track your shipment.
->
-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
->
-> * Order #: 637913 *
-> Date: 07/22/10
->
-> * Shipping Address *
-> KARL HIPP DESIGNS
-> BALZOUT AVIATION LLC
-> 3451 STEARMAN LANE
-> CRAWFORD, CO 81415
-> * Shipping Method *
-> UPS COMM GROUND (CORONA)
->
-> * Billing Address *
-> KARL HIPP DESIGNS
-> BALZOUT AVIATION LLC
-> 3451 STEARMAN LANE
-> CRAWFORD, CO 81415
-> khipp@99victor.com * Payment Method *
-> CREDIT CARD
-> Qty Ship B/O Item Unit Price Total Price
-> 200
-> 0 1601-0410 AVEX RIVET # 1601-0410 0.06 12.60
-> 100
-> 0 1604-0412 AVEX NON-STR BLD RVT 1604-0412 0.04
3.60
-> 1
-> 1 03-27850 2024T3 ALUM SHEET .020 2'X4' 20.00
20.00
-> 1
-> 0 03-28050 2024T3 ALUM SHEET .032 2'X4' 24.50
24.50
->
-> Subtotal: 60.70
->
->
-> ray.mason@dcsol.com wrote:
-> > Here is what I have gotten off the list from the past. I buy mine from
Mattic
-> > (so did Murphy). If you ask them to mail them it shouldn't be expensive
and
-> > you are rarely charged cutoms at your end.
-> >
-> >
-> > For more product information please click on the following link:
-> >
-> >> http://www.avdel-global.com/en/products/breakstem-
fasteners/avex.html
-> >>
-> >> Marie Nadeau
-> >> Inside Sales
-> >> Avdel Canada, a Division of Acument Canada Limited
-> >> 87 Disco Road, Rexdale, Ontario, M9W 1M3
-> >> Direct: 416-679-9572
-> >> Phone: 416-679-0622
-> >> Toll Free: 1-800-268-9947
-> >> Fax: 416-679-0678
-> >>
-> >
-> >
-> > RV-1410 1/8" X 3/16"
-> > RV-1414 1/8" X 5/16"
-> > RV-1613 3/16" X 1/4"
-> > RV-1619 3/16" X 3/8"
-> > RV-1621 3/16" X 1/2"
-> > RV-4412 1/8" X 3/16" COUNTERSUNK
-> > RR-5404 1/8" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5406 1/8" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5604 3/16" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5606 3/16" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-6403 1/8" X 3/16" CLOSED END (TYPICAL TANK RIVET)
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> > On 7/26/2010 7:41 AM, caltrac wrote to All:
-> >
-> > -> 7-26-10, Where is a supplier in the US for the "Avex" 1613,
1619,1410,
-> > etc.
-> > -> rivets. I've looked around no one can find those part numbers. tks
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
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On 7/27/2010 5:34 AM, khipp@99victor.com wrote to rebel-builders:
7-28-10, Big TKS there khipp@99victor, for the heads up re, rivets from
Spruce. Order done! Took 2min.
Mattic was 5 times as much, .30ea, qtys of 100ea, and $35 to ship to

unclear about rate of exchange, and a big "I dunno!" re, customs. He said

this is his "good day!". By the by never did waste time trying to locate

info in 41 thousand messages. where it was first suggested I look.
The rivets will secure the skin we took off to repair a collapsed

brace attachment on my '93 model. I must say that from what we saw
confirms that the landing gear is the weak point of the Rebel for rough

or hard landings. The supporting skin is only .020 and a doz or so 1/8"

holding it all together. The inside floor rivets "lost their heads"

innere structure to "roll" and fail. Be a good thing to check ea

annual. Because all of the material in this area is .020 I'm afraid to

only the attach point area as this might cause more extensive damage than
just the bulkhead ends and deformed skin that can be repaired. The
previously owner had repaired the other side so we just followed his lead

went in through the floor leaving a large inspection hole behind, alas

of the .020 skin and the possibiltiy the floor provides some structural

cover must be riveted down not screwed. If I was building I would use

than that, infact the later model's may have done so including the Elite.

main gear attach is plenty tough just a mystery why the designer decided

use the thin stuff on the rest of what makes up the gear box.
Again tks much. You saved me many bucks and aggravation.

-> AC Spruce sells the avex rivets--I think they just don't call em that

-> the catalog. Here is a copy of a recent order
->
-> --------------------------------------------------------------------
-> * Order Confirmation *
->
-> Thank you for shopping at Aircraft Spruce. We are now processing your
-> order. Visit the Order Status section of your account
-> <http://www.aircraftspruce.com/orderdetail.php?
SOPT=D&CN=472451&ORN=637913>
-> to view your order details and track your shipment.
->
->

->
-> * Order #: 637913 *
-> Date: 07/22/10
->
-> * Shipping Address *
-> KARL HIPP DESIGNS
-> BALZOUT AVIATION LLC
-> 3451 STEARMAN LANE
-> CRAWFORD, CO 81415
-> * Shipping Method *
-> UPS COMM GROUND (CORONA)
->
-> * Billing Address *
-> KARL HIPP DESIGNS
-> BALZOUT AVIATION LLC
-> 3451 STEARMAN LANE
-> CRAWFORD, CO 81415
-> khipp@99victor.com * Payment Method *
-> CREDIT CARD
-> Qty Ship B/O Item Unit Price Total Price
-> 200
-> 0 1601-0410 AVEX RIVET # 1601-0410 0.06 12.60
-> 100
-> 0 1604-0412 AVEX NON-STR BLD RVT 1604-0412 0.04
3.60
-> 1
-> 1 03-27850 2024T3 ALUM SHEET .020 2'X4' 20.00
20.00
-> 1
-> 0 03-28050 2024T3 ALUM SHEET .032 2'X4' 24.50
24.50
->
-> Subtotal: 60.70
->
->
-> ray.mason@dcsol.com wrote:
-> > Here is what I have gotten off the list from the past. I buy mine

Mattic
-> > (so did Murphy). If you ask them to mail them it shouldn't be

and
-> > you are rarely charged cutoms at your end.
-> >
-> >
-> > For more product information please click on the following link:
-> >
-> >> http://www.avdel-global.com/en/products/breakstem-
fasteners/avex.html
-> >>
-> >> Marie Nadeau
-> >> Inside Sales
-> >> Avdel Canada, a Division of Acument Canada Limited
-> >> 87 Disco Road, Rexdale, Ontario, M9W 1M3
-> >> Direct: 416-679-9572
-> >> Phone: 416-679-0622
-> >> Toll Free: 1-800-268-9947
-> >> Fax: 416-679-0678
-> >>
-> >
-> >
-> > RV-1410 1/8" X 3/16"
-> > RV-1414 1/8" X 5/16"
-> > RV-1613 3/16" X 1/4"
-> > RV-1619 3/16" X 3/8"
-> > RV-1621 3/16" X 1/2"
-> > RV-4412 1/8" X 3/16" COUNTERSUNK
-> > RR-5404 1/8" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5406 1/8" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5604 3/16" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5606 3/16" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-6403 1/8" X 3/16" CLOSED END (TYPICAL TANK RIVET)
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> > On 7/26/2010 7:41 AM, caltrac wrote to All:
-> >
-> > -> 7-26-10, Where is a supplier in the US for the "Avex" 1613,
1619,1410,
-> > etc.
-> > -> rivets. I've looked around no one can find those part numbers.

-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
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Karl,

Go to https://mail.dcsol.com/rebelgen.htm

Log in ... username: rebel ... password: builder ... or with you account
info

Click the yellow word Files in the red top bar

Click the Upload button in the gray bar on the left

Select the area you want to upload into from the drop down list

The rest should be self explanatory ...

Cheers, Bob 612e

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of karl
hipp
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 6:21 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: BUY AVEX RIVETS

I've got a bunch of photos of how I reinforced the entire area you have
a problem with. Unfortunately this forum will not allow me to post them.
If anyone knows a way to get the photos up let me know

Karl

caltrac@dcsol.com wrote:

On 7/27/2010 5:34 AM, khipp@99victor.com wrote to rebel-builders:
7-28-10, Big TKS there khipp@99victor, for the heads up re, rivets from
Spruce. Order done! Took 2min.
Mattic was 5 times as much, .30ea, qtys of 100ea, and $35 to ship to

US,

unclear about rate of exchange, and a big "I dunno!" re, customs. He said

this is his "good day!". By the by never did waste time trying to locate

rivet

info in 41 thousand messages. where it was first suggested I look.
The rivets will secure the skin we took off to repair a collapsed

drag link

brace attachment on my '93 model. I must say that from what we saw
confirms that the landing gear is the weak point of the Rebel for rough

fields

or hard landings. The supporting skin is only .020 and a doz or so 1/8"

rivets

holding it all together. The inside floor rivets "lost their heads"

allowing the

innere structure to "roll" and fail. Be a good thing to check ea

preflight and

annual. Because all of the material in this area is .020 I'm afraid to

beef-up

only the attach point area as this might cause more extensive damage than
just the bulkhead ends and deformed skin that can be repaired. The
previously owner had repaired the other side so we just followed his lead

and

went in through the floor leaving a large inspection hole behind, alas

because

of the .020 skin and the possibiltiy the floor provides some structural

effort

cover must be riveted down not screwed. If I was building I would use

better

than that, infact the later model's may have done so including the Elite.

The

main gear attach is plenty tough just a mystery why the designer decided

to

use the thin stuff on the rest of what makes up the gear box.
Again tks much. You saved me many bucks and aggravation.

...................................end......................................
......

-> AC Spruce sells the avex rivets--I think they just don't call em that

in

-> the catalog. Here is a copy of a recent order
->
-> --------------------------------------------------------------------
-> * Order Confirmation *
->
-> Thank you for shopping at Aircraft Spruce. We are now processing your
-> order. Visit the Order Status section of your account
-> <http://www.aircraftspruce.com/orderdetail.php?
SOPT=D&CN=472451&ORN=637913>
-> to view your order details and track your shipment.
->
->

------------------------------------------------------------------------

->
-> * Order #: 637913 *
-> Date: 07/22/10
->
-> * Shipping Address *
-> KARL HIPP DESIGNS
-> BALZOUT AVIATION LLC
-> 3451 STEARMAN LANE
-> CRAWFORD, CO 81415
-> * Shipping Method *
-> UPS COMM GROUND (CORONA)
->
-> * Billing Address *
-> KARL HIPP DESIGNS
-> BALZOUT AVIATION LLC
-> 3451 STEARMAN LANE
-> CRAWFORD, CO 81415
-> khipp@99victor.com * Payment Method *
-> CREDIT CARD
-> Qty Ship B/O Item Unit Price Total Price
-> 200
-> 0 1601-0410 AVEX RIVET # 1601-0410 0.06 12.60
-> 100
-> 0 1604-0412 AVEX NON-STR BLD RVT 1604-0412 0.04
3.60
-> 1
-> 1 03-27850 2024T3 ALUM SHEET .020 2'X4' 20.00
20.00
-> 1
-> 0 03-28050 2024T3 ALUM SHEET .032 2'X4' 24.50
24.50
->
-> Subtotal: 60.70
->
->
-> ray.mason@dcsol.com wrote:
-> > Here is what I have gotten off the list from the past. I buy mine

from

Mattic
-> > (so did Murphy). If you ask them to mail them it shouldn't be

expensive

and
-> > you are rarely charged cutoms at your end.
-> >
-> >
-> > For more product information please click on the following link:
-> >
-> >> http://www.avdel-global.com/en/products/breakstem-
fasteners/avex.html
-> >>
-> >> Marie Nadeau
-> >> Inside Sales
-> >> Avdel Canada, a Division of Acument Canada Limited
-> >> 87 Disco Road, Rexdale, Ontario, M9W 1M3
-> >> Direct: 416-679-9572
-> >> Phone: 416-679-0622
-> >> Toll Free: 1-800-268-9947
-> >> Fax: 416-679-0678
-> >>
-> >
-> >
-> > RV-1410 1/8" X 3/16"
-> > RV-1414 1/8" X 5/16"
-> > RV-1613 3/16" X 1/4"
-> > RV-1619 3/16" X 3/8"
-> > RV-1621 3/16" X 1/2"
-> > RV-4412 1/8" X 3/16" COUNTERSUNK
-> > RR-5404 1/8" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5406 1/8" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5604 3/16" X 1/4" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-5606 3/16" X 3/8" STAINLESS STEEL
-> > RR-6403 1/8" X 3/16" CLOSED END (TYPICAL TANK RIVET)
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> > On 7/26/2010 7:41 AM, caltrac wrote to All:
-> >
-> > -> 7-26-10, Where is a supplier in the US for the "Avex" 1613,
1619,1410,
-> > etc.
-> > -> rivets. I've looked around no one can find those part numbers.

tks

-> >
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