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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm**

Yes, they told me to use 1 1/2 inch spacing on the stabs instead of 3 inches
as on the wings.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
allen.hewko@dcsol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:02 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] RE: vg's on elevator

The land shorter vg's need the slight curve sanded flat so they stay glued
to
the stab. I used a bench mounted belt sander, it doesn't take much to get
them flat. They should have came with a pattern for the stab, it is a closer

spacing than on the wings. After putting the vg's on the wings I had to put
a
set on the stab to get more elevator at slow speeds, but I still don't seem
to
have quite enough. I am quite happy with the better performance and control
I got with the land shorter vg's.

Allen
C-FXNS

On 7/18/2010 6:11 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Looking for experience with vg's on the elevator for rebels. I have the
-> landshorter set and I guess the major question is, does anyone have
-> experience with these on the elevator and what spacing from the hinge
-> was most effective?
->
-> Garry
-> C-FOKM

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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:30 pm**

Did you try different spacings forward of the hinge on the elevator?

Garry

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:

The land shorter vg's need the slight curve sanded flat so they stay glued
to
the stab. I used a bench mounted belt sander, it doesn't take much to get
them flat. They should have came with a pattern for the stab, it is a
closer
spacing than on the wings. After putting the vg's on the wings I had to put
a
set on the stab to get more elevator at slow speeds, but I still don't seem
to
have quite enough. I am quite happy with the better performance and control
I got with the land shorter vg's.

Allen
C-FXNS

On 7/18/2010 6:11 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Looking for experience with vg's on the elevator for rebels. I have the
-> landshorter set and I guess the major question is, does anyone have
-> experience with these on the elevator and what spacing from the hinge
-> was most effective?
->
-> Garry
-> C-FOKM

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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:31 pm**

No,
I just went with the recommended spacings and placement.
The stab vg's are harder to put on and keep glued on, I just found a nice
grassy spot to lay on my back to install them.
Allen

On 7/20/2010 8:10 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Did you try different spacings forward of the hinge on the elevator?
->
-> Garry
->
-> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:
->
-> > The land shorter vg's need the slight curve sanded flat so they stay
glued
-> > to
-> > the stab. I used a bench mounted belt sander, it doesn't take much to
get
-> > them flat. They should have came with a pattern for the stab, it is a
-> > closer
-> > spacing than on the wings. After putting the vg's on the wings I had to
put
-> > a
-> > set on the stab to get more elevator at slow speeds, but I still don't
seem
-> > to
-> > have quite enough. I am quite happy with the better performance and
control
-> > I got with the land shorter vg's.
-> >
-> > Allen
-> > C-FXNS
-> >
-> > On 7/18/2010 6:11 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-
builders:
-> >
-> > -> Looking for experience with vg's on the elevator for rebels. I have
the
-> > -> landshorter set and I guess the major question is, does anyone have
-> > -> experience with these on the elevator and what spacing from the
hinge
-> > -> was most effective?
-> > ->
-> > -> Garry
-> > -> C-FOKM
-> >
-> >
-> >
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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:31 pm**

Thanks Allen and Walter. I will take the elevators off and glue them on at
1.5" spacings as close to the hinge line as possible. That comes after I get
the floats to quit leaking.

G

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:15 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:

No,
I just went with the recommended spacings and placement.
The stab vg's are harder to put on and keep glued on, I just found a nice
grassy spot to lay on my back to install them.
Allen

On 7/20/2010 8:10 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Did you try different spacings forward of the hinge on the elevator?
->
-> Garry
->
-> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:
->
-> > The land shorter vg's need the slight curve sanded flat so they stay
glued
-> > to
-> > the stab. I used a bench mounted belt sander, it doesn't take much to
get
-> > them flat. They should have came with a pattern for the stab, it is a
-> > closer
-> > spacing than on the wings. After putting the vg's on the wings I had
to
put
-> > a
-> > set on the stab to get more elevator at slow speeds, but I still don't
seem
-> > to
-> > have quite enough. I am quite happy with the better performance and
control
-> > I got with the land shorter vg's.
-> >
-> > Allen
-> > C-FXNS
-> >
-> > On 7/18/2010 6:11 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-
builders:
-> >
-> > -> Looking for experience with vg's on the elevator for rebels. I have
the
-> > -> landshorter set and I guess the major question is, does anyone have
-> > -> experience with these on the elevator and what spacing from the
hinge
-> > -> was most effective?
-> > ->
-> > -> Garry
-> > -> C-FOKM
-> >
-> >
-> >
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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:31 pm**

Garry, you might want to give Harrison a call and see what he says. I am not
sure about how close to the hinge line they should be. I would try with the
double sided carpet tape in a couple positions to see what happens.

Eric, didn't you put them on your stabs?

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Garry
Wright
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:38 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] RE: vg's on elevator

Thanks Allen and Walter. I will take the elevators off and glue them on at
1.5" spacings as close to the hinge line as possible. That comes after I get
the floats to quit leaking.

G

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:15 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:

No,
I just went with the recommended spacings and placement.
The stab vg's are harder to put on and keep glued on, I just found a nice
grassy spot to lay on my back to install them.
Allen

On 7/20/2010 8:10 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Did you try different spacings forward of the hinge on the elevator?
->
-> Garry
->
-> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:
->
-> > The land shorter vg's need the slight curve sanded flat so they stay
glued
-> > to
-> > the stab. I used a bench mounted belt sander, it doesn't take much to
get
-> > them flat. They should have came with a pattern for the stab, it is a
-> > closer
-> > spacing than on the wings. After putting the vg's on the wings I had
to
put
-> > a
-> > set on the stab to get more elevator at slow speeds, but I still

don't

seem
-> > to
-> > have quite enough. I am quite happy with the better performance and
control
-> > I got with the land shorter vg's.
-> >
-> > Allen
-> > C-FXNS
-> >
-> > On 7/18/2010 6:11 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-
builders:
-> >
-> > -> Looking for experience with vg's on the elevator for rebels. I

have

the
-> > -> landshorter set and I guess the major question is, does anyone

have

-> > -> experience with these on the elevator and what spacing from the
hinge
-> > -> was most effective?
-> > ->
-> > -> Garry
-> > -> C-FOKM
-> >
-> >
-> >
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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:31 pm**

Hi Garry !

The VG's usually go on the bottom of the stab, about
an inch ahead of the hinge line .... not on the elevators ! ;-)

....and definitely NOT on TOP of the stab - I did the test
flying on a Rebel years ago that had them on top - just a
mistake .... might have helped with outside loops though ! ;-)

We're in a motel in Michigan City - about 65 miles east of
Chicago - hope to hit OSH tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon late ...
maybe in time for supper at Friar Tuck's !! :-) :-)

See everybody at the Moose !

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bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.amway.ca/BobPatterson
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On July 21, 2010 09:37:54 pm Garry Wright wrote:

Thanks Allen and Walter. I will take the elevators off and glue them on at
1.5" spacings as close to the hinge line as possible. That comes after I
get the floats to quit leaking.

G

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:15 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:
No,
I just went with the recommended spacings and placement.
The stab vg's are harder to put on and keep glued on, I just found a nice
grassy spot to lay on my back to install them.
Allen

On 7/20/2010 8:10 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Did you try different spacings forward of the hinge on the elevator?
->
-> Garry
->
-> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:
->
-> > The land shorter vg's need the slight curve sanded flat so they stay
glued
-> > to
-> > the stab. I used a bench mounted belt sander, it doesn't take much
to get
-> > them flat. They should have came with a pattern for the stab, it is
a -> > closer
-> > spacing than on the wings. After putting the vg's on the wings I had
to
put
-> > a
-> > set on the stab to get more elevator at slow speeds, but I still
don't seem
-> > to
-> > have quite enough. I am quite happy with the better performance and
control
-> > I got with the land shorter vg's.
-> >
-> > Allen
-> > C-FXNS
-> >
-> > On 7/18/2010 6:11 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-
builders:
-> >
-> > -> Looking for experience with vg's on the elevator for rebels. I
have the
-> > -> landshorter set and I guess the major question is, does anyone
have -> > -> experience with these on the elevator and what spacing from
the hinge
-> > -> was most effective?
-> > ->
-> > -> Garry
-> > -> C-FOKM
-> >

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Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:31 pm**

Thanks Bob. Enjoy OSH.

G

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Bob Patterson (e) <bobp@prosumers.ca>wrote:

Hi Garry !

The VG's usually go on the bottom of the stab, about
an inch ahead of the hinge line .... not on the elevators ! ;-)

....and definitely NOT on TOP of the stab - I did the test
flying on a Rebel years ago that had them on top - just a
mistake .... might have helped with outside loops though ! ;-)

We're in a motel in Michigan City - about 65 miles east of
Chicago - hope to hit OSH tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon late ...
maybe in time for supper at Friar Tuck's !! :-) :-)

See everybody at the Moose !

--
......bobp & Anna
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://www.amway.ca/BobPatterson
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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On July 21, 2010 09:37:54 pm Garry Wright wrote:
Thanks Allen and Walter. I will take the elevators off and glue them on
at
1.5" spacings as close to the hinge line as possible. That comes after I
get the floats to quit leaking.

G

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:15 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:
No,
I just went with the recommended spacings and placement.
The stab vg's are harder to put on and keep glued on, I just found a
nice
grassy spot to lay on my back to install them.
Allen

On 7/20/2010 8:10 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to
rebel-builders:
-> Did you try different spacings forward of the hinge on the elevator?
->
-> Garry
->
-> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM, <allen.hewko@dcsol.com> wrote:
->
-> > The land shorter vg's need the slight curve sanded flat so they
stay
glued
-> > to
-> > the stab. I used a bench mounted belt sander, it doesn't take much
to get
-> > them flat. They should have came with a pattern for the stab, it
is
a -> > closer
-> > spacing than on the wings. After putting the vg's on the wings I
had
to
put
-> > a
-> > set on the stab to get more elevator at slow speeds, but I still
don't seem
-> > to
-> > have quite enough. I am quite happy with the better performance
and
control
-> > I got with the land shorter vg's.
-> >
-> > Allen
-> > C-FXNS
-> >
-> > On 7/18/2010 6:11 PM, wright.garry30@gmail.com wrote to rebel-
builders:
-> >
-> > -> Looking for experience with vg's on the elevator for rebels. I
have the
-> > -> landshorter set and I guess the major question is, does anyone
have -> > -> experience with these on the elevator and what spacing
from
the hinge
-> > -> was most effective?
-> > ->
-> > -> Garry
-> > -> C-FOKM
-> >

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