[rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

[Keith Leitch]

AWESOME Ron!!! I am patiently waiting a flight report on that Jabiru engine. I sure wish you would hurry up! ;) Some of us need some mototation.
Keith R661

--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Ron Shannon <rshannon@cruzcom.com> wrote:


From: Ron Shannon <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 6:57 AM


Friday marked the first engine start for 254R.

[Joe Ronco]

Congratulations Ron. Looks and sounds fantastic. I hope that you are able to
fly 254R to Arlington this year so I can check it out and take pictures.



J Joe



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Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags off

to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial

mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between

the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to be

fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be

working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses

from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A handheld

optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was

off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but wow,

what a thrill.



Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com



The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet

engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.



Ron









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[Bill Maxwell]

Keep us all posted, Ron. I will be particularly interested in how well
the 6 cyl. Jab manages to move the Rebel airframe, given the limited
Prop diameter the maximum rpm allows.
Not an academic interest either, since I have the same airframe and have
yet to select an engine for it.

Bill

Ron Shannon wrote:

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[Gary Gustafson]

Nice sounding engine. I too will be interested in your performance
data as I have been fascinated with the Jabiru 3300 for quite awhile.
I think that you will keep that smile on your face for some time now.

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Shannon
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:57 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Another hurdle cleared Ron !!

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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:57 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags
off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to
be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A
handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but
wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[elist]

Way to go Ron. And doesn't it look real good having the airplane outside!

Eric
N645E

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From: "Ron Shannon" <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:57 AM
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags
off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to
be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A
handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but
wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[snowyrvr@mtaonline.net]

Great video, Ron. Congrats!! You must be super excited Craig
Original Message:
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From: Keith Leitch im_planecrazy@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 05:06:44 -0700 (PDT)
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start


AWESOME Ron!!! I am patiently waiting a flight report on that Jabiru
engine. I sure wish you would hurry up! ;) Some of us need some mototation.
Keith R661

--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Ron Shannon <rshannon@cruzcom.com> wrote:


From: Ron Shannon <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 6:57 AM


Friday marked the first engine start for 254R.

[N.Smith]

Great video Ron
The engine sounds great :-)
Nig
745E

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Sent: 01 May 2010 12:57
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Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[Randy Riggs]

Nicely Done Ron, you've driven me back to the hangar.
R Riggs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Shannon" <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:57 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags
off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to
be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A
handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but
wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[Ron Shannon]

Of all the nice comments, that's got to be the best one to hear, Randy.

I've had to learn quite a bit more about falling off the horse and getting
back in the saddle -- dozens of times. I'm not there yet, but I know there
is an end -- at least a time to fly -- and it's coming. There have to be
more efficient ways to learn aeroplane crafting skills, but there may be no
better way to learn what it takes to do something this challenging.

Thanks to all. Onward.

Ron
254R


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Randy Riggs <tci@skynetbb.com> wrote:

Nicely Done Ron, you've driven me back to the hangar.
R Riggs

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[Charlie Eubanks]

Ron
Really enjoyed the video. Rebel looks great and sounds good. You should be
airborne in a few months. Keep us posted.
Charlie E.
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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags
off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to
be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A
handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but
wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[Bill Maxwell]

I will be watching your progress keenly too, Ron as the 3300 Jab is a
possible powerplant for my Rebel, although now that Rodney O'Geary's
Rotec powered ship is here in Tasmania, that too has appeal.

Sorry if I have missed any information you may have posted previously
but can you give us the benefit of your thinking in going for the
AeroCarb over the Jab's normal Bings?

Bill

Gary Gustafson wrote:

Nice sounding engine. I too will be interested in your performance
data as I have been fascinated with the Jabiru 3300 for quite awhile.
I think that you will keep that smile on your face for some time now.

-----Original Message-----
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Shannon
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:57 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] 254R - first engine start

Friday marked the first engine start for 254R. After cranking with mags off
to produce positive oil pressure, the initial start went smoothly. Initial
mixture setting on the AeroCarb was a little rich, but manageable. Between
the two runs, mixture needle was leaned just a quarter turn and seems to be
fine now, at least at low RPM's. All sensors and accessories appear to be
working well, except the dual alternators and tach. The tach reads pulses
from the primary alternator so those issues may well be related. A handheld
optical tach was very useful. With suboptimal cooling because the cowl was
off -- fire extinguishers at the ready -- I didn't run it too long, but wow,
what a thrill.

Video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geZvTLmXe90 and http://n254mr.com

The Jabiru 3300 6-cyl. is a very smooth and (everyone agreed) very quiet
engine. The airplane is alive, and so is the builder.

Ron




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[Tim Hickey]

Congratulations, Ron.
This reminds me of the first start of my Zenith CH-300, Lycoming O-320, 22
years ago.
It seems that there are two Allen head pipe plugs on the front of the engine
that plug what I would guess is a machining access hole for the oil galley
for the valve lifters. I overhauled that engine myself, and, shamefully,
forgot to reinstall those two plugs. When you pull the sparkplugs and crank
the engine to build oil pressure, you can shoot oil about 10 feet out in
front of the plane. Pretty neat, but messy.

Glad you did not have that problem.

Tim Hickey.


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[Ron Shannon]

Bill, I held forth in quite a detailed & lengthy discussion on the AeroCarb
vs. Bing here awhile back, so I don't want to drag the whole group through
that again, but will be happy to track down some of it and send to you
direct. If I don't get to it right away, a search in the message archives
for "AeroCarb" (no quotes) will certainly bring it up.

Ron

PS - Doing it again, I'd probably get the new Rotec TBI-40 instead of the
AeroCarb -- and may yet go that route somewhere down the road. As you may
know, it's also a throttle body, but IMHO more advanced, without adding
complexity. Same arguments vs. the Bing apply, only more so. :)



On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Bill Maxwell <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com> wrote:

I will be watching your progress keenly too, Ron as the 3300 Jab is a
possible powerplant for my Rebel, although now that Rodney O'Geary's
Rotec powered ship is here in Tasmania, that too has appeal.

Sorry if I have missed any information you may have posted previously
but can you give us the benefit of your thinking in going for the
AeroCarb over the Jab's normal Bings?

Bill

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[Bill Maxwell]

Thanks Ron. I'll go look for it.

Dont quite know how I missed the discussion up to this point but it was
possibly because, until recent times, I have never really been a fan of
the Jabiru engine. I saw too many failures in the early days here
Downunder but they seem to have overcome that in more recent times.
There certainly is now a huge fleet of them all over the globe and I
have had recent experience with the smaller 2200 engine in a Jodel D18
that has caused me to warm to them.

Yes, I have been watching the Rotec TBI-40 as well.

cheers

Bill

Ron Shannon wrote:

Bill, I held forth in quite a detailed & lengthy discussion on the AeroCarb
vs. Bing here awhile back, so I don't want to drag the whole group through
that again, but will be happy to track down some of it and send to you
direct. If I don't get to it right away, a search in the message archives
for "AeroCarb" (no quotes) will certainly bring it up.

Ron

PS - Doing it again, I'd probably get the new Rotec TBI-40 instead of the
AeroCarb -- and may yet go that route somewhere down the road. As you may
know, it's also a throttle body, but IMHO more advanced, without adding
complexity. Same arguments vs. the Bing apply, only more so. :)



On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Bill Maxwell <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com> wrote:

I will be watching your progress keenly too, Ron as the 3300 Jab is a
possible powerplant for my Rebel, although now that Rodney O'Geary's
Rotec powered ship is here in Tasmania, that too has appeal.

Sorry if I have missed any information you may have posted previously
but can you give us the benefit of your thinking in going for the
AeroCarb over the Jab's normal Bings?

Bill

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