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I fly an AA1with an 0235c2c around Lake Erie with no oil coller. Have never
had a problem for twenty one years. It is very tightly cowled and I once
replaced the baffling tape.

cheers
Bill

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

[quote]Hello All

Up to now my experience with Lyc's have been with the O-320's but

I will be certifying my Rebel (1320 GW) with a 116 HP O-235 Lyc. Equipped
with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood prop, and
any
thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan on
installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I live in the
mid west and we have our share of 90

Bill
Thanks for your reply on the fuel pump. I am afraid I am not familiar with
your AA1 and you have tweaked my curiosity. I would like to hear more about
your aircraft.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler


[quote]I fly an AA1with an 0235c2c around Lake Erie with no oil coller. Have never
had a problem for twenty one years. It is very tightly cowled and I once
replaced the baffling tape.

cheers
Bill

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

[quote]Hello All

Up to now my experience with Lyc's have been with the O-320's but

I will be certifying my Rebel (1320 GW) with a 116 HP O-235 Lyc. Equipped
with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood prop, and
any
thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan on
installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I live in
the
mid west and we have our share of 90

Me too, Bill!

Are you able to provide some real-world performance numbers with the O-
235?

Rob
Rebel 786
Old Saybrook, CT

On 3/17/2010 6:51 AM, charlie@troyairpark.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Bill
-> Thanks for your reply on the fuel pump. I am afraid I am not familiar with
-> your AA1 and you have tweaked my curiosity. I would like to hear more
about
-> your aircraft.
-> Charlie E. 802R
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:11 PM
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler
->
->
-> >I fly an AA1with an 0235c2c around Lake Erie with no oil coller. Have
never
-> > had a problem for twenty one years. It is very tightly cowled and I once
-> > replaced the baffling tape.
-> >
-> > cheers
-> > Bill
-> >
-> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Eubanks
-> > <charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:
-> >
-> >> Hello All
-> >>
-> >> Up to now my experience with Lyc's have been with the O-320's but
-> >>
-> >> I will be certifying my Rebel (1320 GW) with a 116 HP O-235 Lyc.
Equipped
-> >> with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood prop, and
-> >> any
-> >> thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan on
-> >> installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I live in
-> >> the
-> >> mid west and we have our share of 90

Any O-235 rear case that I've seen doesn't offer oil cooler fittings. If you
find you need to run a cooler you'll most likely need an adapter plate that
goes under the screen housing. This adapter has in and out for the cooler
lines.

That said.. my O-235-C x 100 HP could have used a cooler when I ran it the
first few years on my Rebel. Oil was always around 235F. I was sure I had no
rust issues going on in my motor....


----- Original Message -----
From: <schaumr@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler


[quote]Me too, Bill!

Are you able to provide some real-world performance numbers with the O-
235?

Rob
Rebel 786
Old Saybrook, CT

On 3/17/2010 6:51 AM, charlie@troyairpark.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Bill
-> Thanks for your reply on the fuel pump. I am afraid I am not familiar
with
-> your AA1 and you have tweaked my curiosity. I would like to hear more
about
-> your aircraft.
-> Charlie E. 802R
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:11 PM
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler
->
->
-> >I fly an AA1with an 0235c2c around Lake Erie with no oil coller. Have
never
-> > had a problem for twenty one years. It is very tightly cowled and I
once
-> > replaced the baffling tape.
-> >
-> > cheers
-> > Bill
-> >
-> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Eubanks
-> > <charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:
-> >
-> >> Hello All
-> >>
-> >> Up to now my experience with Lyc's have been with the O-320's but
-> >>
-> >> I will be certifying my Rebel (1320 GW) with a 116 HP O-235 Lyc.
Equipped
-> >> with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood prop,
and
-> >> any
-> >> thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan
on
-> >> installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I live
in
-> >> the
-> >> mid west and we have our share of 90

An AA! was made by the Amercian aircraft Co. in Cuyahoga county Airport Ohio
by Beddie 1968-1969.
It is the Yankee. The AA5 is the Tiger it is 180hp. The company was sold to
Grummen who changed the laminer flow wing designated AA1A; AA1B AA1C the
plane is very responsive and fun to fly. The Web address shows one with my
paint' for sale and it looks cheep.
http://www.barnstormers.com/Grumman,%20 ... ifieds.htm
cheers
Bill

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Charlie Eubanks <charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Bill
Thanks for your reply on the fuel pump. I am afraid I am not familiar with
your AA1 and you have tweaked my curiosity. I would like to hear more about
your aircraft.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler

I fly an AA1with an 0235c2c around Lake Erie with no oil coller. Have

never

had a problem for twenty one years. It is very tightly cowled and I once
replaced the baffling tape.

cheers
Bill

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Hello All

Up to now my experience with Lyc's have been with the O-320's but

I will be certifying my Rebel (1320 GW) with a 116 HP O-235 Lyc.

Equipped

with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood prop, and
any
thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan on
installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I live in
the
mid west and we have our share of 90

Bill
Now I understand, I just didn't recognize the aircraft by that designation.
Flew a lot of small aircraft but never flew a Yankee. Glad to hear you oil
temps were not a problem. My Rebel not as fast so I hope I can supply enough
air to keep the temps under the red line.
Thanks for the reply.
Charlie E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler

An AA! was made by the Amercian aircraft Co. in Cuyahoga county Airport
Ohio
by Beddie 1968-1969.
It is the Yankee. The AA5 is the Tiger it is 180hp. The company was sold
to
Grummen who changed the laminer flow wing designated AA1A; AA1B AA1C the
plane is very responsive and fun to fly. The Web address shows one with my
paint' for sale and it looks cheep.
http://www.barnstormers.com/Grumman,%20 ... ifieds.htm
cheers
Bill

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Bill
Thanks for your reply on the fuel pump. I am afraid I am not familiar
with
your AA1 and you have tweaked my curiosity. I would like to hear more
about
your aircraft.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler

I fly an AA1with an 0235c2c around Lake Erie with no oil coller. Have

never

had a problem for twenty one years. It is very tightly cowled and I
once
replaced the baffling tape.

cheers
Bill

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Equipped

with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood prop,
and
any
thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan on
installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I live
in
the
mid west and we have our share of 90

My Rebel with a 0-235 has a oil cooler and I removed the rear oil screen and
installed a engine mounted oil filter, but I will have to look to see how
the oil cooler is hooked up.
Buz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler


[quote]Any O-235 rear case that I've seen doesn't offer oil cooler fittings. If
you
find you need to run a cooler you'll most likely need an adapter plate
that
goes under the screen housing. This adapter has in and out for the cooler
lines.

That said.. my O-235-C x 100 HP could have used a cooler when I ran it the
first few years on my Rebel. Oil was always around 235F. I was sure I had
no
rust issues going on in my motor....


----- Original Message -----
From: <schaumr@dcsol.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler


[quote]Me too, Bill!

Are you able to provide some real-world performance numbers with the O-
235?

Rob
Rebel 786
Old Saybrook, CT

On 3/17/2010 6:51 AM, charlie@troyairpark.com wrote to rebel-builders:

-> Bill
-> Thanks for your reply on the fuel pump. I am afraid I am not familiar
with
-> your AA1 and you have tweaked my curiosity. I would like to hear more
about
-> your aircraft.
-> Charlie E. 802R
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
-> To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:11 PM
-> Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler
->
->
-> >I fly an AA1with an 0235c2c around Lake Erie with no oil coller. Have
never
-> > had a problem for twenty one years. It is very tightly cowled and I
once
-> > replaced the baffling tape.
-> >
-> > cheers
-> > Bill
-> >
-> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Charlie Eubanks
-> > <charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:
-> >
-> >> Hello All
-> >>
-> >> Up to now my experience with Lyc's have been with the O-320's but
-> >>
-> >> I will be certifying my Rebel (1320 GW) with a 116 HP O-235 Lyc.
Equipped
-> >> with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood
prop,
and
-> >> any
-> >> thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan
on
-> >> installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I
live
in
-> >> the
-> >> mid west and we have our share of 90

I'm begining the research stage of buying a rebel kit and I am wondering a few things about insurance and how well they really fly. I figure that it must fly pretty well, but would love to find out first hand. If there are any builders and owners near chilliwack BC Canada who want to let somebody pay for some fuel in exchange for a ride let me know.

sincerely
tyler C.

From: charlie@troyairpark.com
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:31:09 -0500

Bill
Now I understand, I just didn't recognize the aircraft by that designation.
Flew a lot of small aircraft but never flew a Yankee. Glad to hear you oil
temps were not a problem. My Rebel not as fast so I hope I can supply enough
air to keep the temps under the red line.
Thanks for the reply.
Charlie E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler

An AA! was made by the Amercian aircraft Co. in Cuyahoga county Airport
Ohio
by Beddie 1968-1969.
It is the Yankee. The AA5 is the Tiger it is 180hp. The company was sold
to
Grummen who changed the laminer flow wing designated AA1A; AA1B AA1C the
plane is very responsive and fun to fly. The Web address shows one with my
paint' for sale and it looks cheep.
http://www.barnstormers.com/Grumman,%20 ... ifieds.htm
cheers
Bill

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Charlie Eubanks
<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Bill
Thanks for your reply on the fuel pump. I am afraid I am not familiar
with
your AA1 and you have tweaked my curiosity. I would like to hear more
about
your aircraft.
Charlie E. 802R
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Taft" <bill@kidzploration.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Oil cooler

never

Equipped

with a light wt starter /alternator, no vac or fuel pump, wood prop,
and
any
thing else I can do to keep it light. My question is, should I plan on
installing an oil cooler? If so, firewall or engine mounted? I live
in
the
mid west and we have our share of 90